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    04-03-2012 07:56 PM #106
    There's a guy over in the UK that's just done that (Decatted it), and ran an 11.3 in his S-Tronic spec'd car.

    Looking at the exhaust system - it's all pretty good from factory!

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    It's worth it!

    Wish we had more exhaust options available!
    IE: A nice de-catted downpipe replacement that keeps the factory catback. Probably just going to run de-catted factory downpipe for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jibbed View Post
    There's a guy over in the UK that's just done that (Decatted it), and ran an 11.3 in his S-Tronic spec'd car.

    Looking at the exhaust system - it's all pretty good from factory!

    Yes, "MitchyRS". He is on here and was kind enough to lend some help via PM.
    I am going to start off by modeling after his simple build, K&N, De-Cat & Flash. If it's good enough enough for 123mph traps, it's good enough for me!

    I'd be happy to buy a large catless downpipe, if it could be mated to the stock catback however!
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    04-03-2012 08:06 PM #108
    Nice! Definitely an effective route. That gearbox is probably worth 3/4 of a second down the strip though.

    Even if you can get a high 11 @ 120ish - that's still pretty impressive.

    I've got a milltek race system to refit to my car, so keen to see how much extra power that free's up.

    Quote Originally Posted by joneze93tsi View Post
    Yes, "MitchyRS". He is on here and was kind enough to lend some help via PM.
    I am going to start off by modeling after his simple build, K&N, De-Cat & Flash. If it's good enough enough for 123mph traps, it's good enough for me!

    I'd be happy to buy a large catless downpipe, if it could be mated to the stock catback however!
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    04-03-2012 08:51 PM #109
    Quote Originally Posted by joneze93tsi View Post
    I'd be happy to buy a large catles downpipe, if it could be mated to the stock catback however!
    Working on it!
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  5. 04-03-2012 09:15 PM #110
    Quote Originally Posted by arin@apr View Post
    working on it!
    Not sure if SRS, or waiting to insert "2 weeks" Joke.

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    04-04-2012 04:05 PM #111
    Arin, what's the deal with the "Left Foot Brake" feature? APR's website mentions that the stock software disables throttle when brake is applied. Am I reading that right? It seems that I can brake and blip the throttle fine. What exactly does this feature do, and is included with the software upgrade?
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    04-04-2012 04:07 PM #112
    Quote Originally Posted by DrDomm View Post
    Arin, what's the deal with the "Left Foot Brake" feature? APR's website mentions that the stock software disables throttle when brake is applied. Am I reading that right? It seems that I can brake and blip the throttle fine. What exactly does this feature do, and is included with the software upgrade?
    Hold your foot on the brake and the gas at the same time and the engine will cut power after a moment.

    In motorsport it's handy to brake with your left foot while not coming off the throttle. This reenables that ability.
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    04-04-2012 04:30 PM #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    Hold your foot on the brake and the gas at the same time and the engine will cut power after a moment.

    In motorsport it's handy to brake with your left foot while not coming off the throttle. This reenables that ability.
    I will try it. So is this something included with the standard stage 1 upgrade? I couldn't tell from how it was worded on the website...said it was "available", but didn't use the word "included".
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    04-04-2012 04:52 PM #114
    Quote Originally Posted by DrDomm View Post
    I will try it. So is this something included with the standard stage 1 upgrade? I couldn't tell from how it was worded on the website...said it was "available", but didn't use the word "included".
    If you hit the brakes first and then hit the throttle, it works just fine stock (this is needed to enable "heel and toe" braking / throttle during down-shifting). The converse is where it cuts out.
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    04-04-2012 06:02 PM #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Marty View Post
    If you hit the brakes first and then hit the throttle, it works just fine stock (this is needed to enable "heel and toe" braking / throttle during down-shifting). The converse is where it cuts out.
    Oh, so you can't just tap the brakes while on throttle to settle the car. Not a huge deal unless you track it.
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    04-04-2012 06:04 PM #116
    Quote Originally Posted by DrDomm View Post
    I will try it. So is this something included with the standard stage 1 upgrade? I couldn't tell from how it was worded on the website...said it was "available", but didn't use the word "included".
    Included.
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    04-09-2012 10:26 AM #117
    Might have already been answered, but if I ship my ECU overnight to APR, does APR pay to overnight it back to me or is that an additional cost? Might have to garage my car for a few days to get in on the sale!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsmack View Post
    Might have already been answered, but if I ship my ECU overnight to APR, does APR pay to overnight it back to me or is that an additional cost? Might have to garage my car for a few days to get in on the sale!
    Shipping is up to the customers. We can ship it any method you like from ground to next day air.
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    04-09-2012 10:48 AM #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    Shipping is up to the customers. We can ship it any method you like from ground to next day air.
    Meh, $200+ for shipping doesn't sit well with me. Have you had any internal discussion on extending the sale for TTRS customers since dealerships do not yet have hardware? Everyone in my area says it'll be another 2-3 weeks.
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    04-09-2012 11:08 AM #120
    Quote Originally Posted by bsmack View Post
    Meh, $200+ for shipping doesn't sit well with me. Have you had any internal discussion on extending the sale for TTRS customers since dealerships do not yet have hardware? Everyone in my area says it'll be another 2-3 weeks.
    Yeah, hate to keep beating the dead horse, but when will my local dealer have the tools for my car?
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    04-09-2012 11:59 AM #121
    We are working on it now and expect the tools to be out in April. I'll have more details in the coming weeks.
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  17. 04-09-2012 02:34 PM #122
    More important to me is the program switching. I love what APR stands for, but the switching seems to be a core need for me. GIAC is currently offering it, and I am finding myself more and more interested.

    Is this realistically going to happen in the next month or so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trbofly View Post
    More important to me is the program switching. I love what APR stands for, but the switching seems to be a core need for me. GIAC is currently offering it, and I am finding myself more and more interested.

    Is this realistically going to happen in the next month or so?
    From what I'm told, yes. They were in the final stages of it but the engineer working on the project was pulled to another one and will continue once he's finished.
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    04-09-2012 03:21 PM #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    We are working on it now and expect the tools to be out in April. I'll have more details in the coming weeks.
    Don't forget about the international customers, too!

    I plan to get Stage 1 (or 2?) and the RSC exhaust when they're available in Germany (or the UK).

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    Quote Originally Posted by - Jeremy - View Post
    Don't forget about the international customers, too!

    I plan to get Stage 1 (or 2?) and the RSC exhaust when they're available in Germany (or the UK).

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    What year is your car. Most European TT RS's are OBDII port flashable.
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  21. 04-09-2012 06:30 PM #126
    i think his is US spec he's rambo or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdi-bart View Post
    i think his is US spec he's rambo or something
    Ha, gotcha!
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    We would like to thank APR for making our day today, it was an amazing experience. Everyone we talked to was polite and professional (special thanks to Ryan), must say, it is a pleasure doing business with you.
    As far as the tune, we drove mostly on the highway, but had a chance to feel the power getting from the on-ramp to the highway.......honestly the on-ramps are to long now, half way through the ramp I saw triple digits...
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    Quote Originally Posted by michalborz View Post
    We would like to thank APR for making our day today, it was an amazing experience. Everyone we talked to was polite and professional (special thanks to Ryan), must say, it is a pleasure doing business with you.
    As far as the tune, we drove mostly on the highway, but had a chance to feel the power getting from the on-ramp to the highway.......honestly the on-ramps are to long now, half way through the ramp I saw triple digits...
    Leaving APR made me feel like I have new car again
    Within next few days we will enjoy Tail of the Dragon, by then we will have a better feeling of the new tune

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  25. 04-10-2012 11:52 PM #130
    Whats the final word on TD1 codes being thrown on a ttrs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by michalborz View Post
    Leaving APR made me feel like I have new car again
    My sentiments exactly! I cannot imagine what stage II & III will feel like?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trbofly View Post
    Whats the final word on TD1 codes being thrown on a ttrs?
    The final word has been stated multiple times. The older style ECU of the TTRS does not collect TD1 codes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trbofly View Post
    Whats the final word on TD1 codes being thrown on a ttrs?
    No TD1 codes on the TTRS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbscoTT View Post
    The final word has been stated multiple times. The older style ECU of the TTRS does not collect TD1 codes.
    Much appreciated. Thanks

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    04-12-2012 10:33 AM #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    No TD1 codes on the TTRS.
    Seems interesting that Audi would go through the trouble of encrypting this old-style ECU without adding something like the TD1 code to it. Either they were too cocky and thought no one could break the encryption, or they've hidden something that the Tuners aren't seeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by - Jeremy - View Post
    Seems interesting that Audi would go through the trouble of encrypting this old-style ECU without adding something like the TD1 code to it. Either they were too cocky and thought no one could break the encryption, or they've hidden something that the Tuners aren't seeing.

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    04-13-2012 03:52 PM #137
    Quote Originally Posted by bsmack View Post
    Have you had any internal discussion on extending the sale for TTRS customers since dealerships do not yet have hardware?
    Arin:

    We are now down to a one-week window of opportunity for the Spring sale (if we flash at the dealers). Any ideas on if all dealers will be receiving their tools by this weekend or if you would be willing to allow us (TT-RS owners) the exception of paying now for stage 1 until dealers have the capability to flash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongviewTx View Post
    Arin:

    We are now down to a one-week window of opportunity for the Spring sale (if we flash at the dealers). Any ideas on if all dealers will be receiving their tools by this weekend or if you would be willing to allow us (TT-RS owners) the exception of paying now for stage 1 until dealers have the capability to flash?
    I don't have that information yet but I'll see what can be done.
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    04-17-2012 05:33 PM #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    I don't have that information yet but I'll see what can be done.
    i heard today that all the dealers are receiving their tools tomorrow. is this true Arin?
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