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    Thread: Installed eBay Neuspeed replica exhaust and Tsudo Downpipe (pic intensive)

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      03-11-2012 11:46 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by TylerO28 View Post
      Wasn't even arguing a point... Just was wondering if it was a typo.you're right its your car.do with it what you desire. But biggest question lies in why don't other companies make a larger diameter exhaust then if it makes power? Just my 02 cents. Continue on wasn't trying to start anything. I understand you just bought it so I'd be p!!ssed if someone rained on my parade about my purchase... Sorry dude.it does look good though

      No need to apologize. this is an open forum you can voice your opinion it really doesn't bother me that much. I simply wanted to state that i'm not ALL about numbers but the experience and the overall feel which this 2.75" system is able to deliver

      As you can see i've been on these forums a while so it's not my first rondevous there is a reason I posted this in the technical 2.5L forum as opposed to MKVI. There seems to be a buncha winy sheep with biased opinions in the other forum as opposed to here where people have a little more technical knowledge and can provide good feedback/opinions.
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      03-11-2012 11:48 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by bubbrando View Post
      can you use this midpipe with headers?
      I have absolutely NO IDEA but the flange is different if you're referring to the OBX/EJ header...hope that helps.
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      03-11-2012 11:52 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by 2ptslo View Post
      N/A or F/I?
      N/A

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      03-11-2012 11:58 PM #29
      could you link us to the tsudo downpipe and does it throw a code?
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      03-12-2012 12:03 AM #30
      yeah hit us up with some links lol

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      03-12-2012 12:31 AM #31
      Thats awesome, sounds good for real!
      It's always the least brightest bulb in the box that I wanna screw

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      03-12-2012 01:15 AM #32
      Being a 2.5 owner since 08 and after extensive reading of not only 2.5 information.but also many many different informative articles regarding exhaust and it's needs was the only reason I spoke up. I see you have also been around for some time as well. Glad you are savvy enough to see I wasn't coming at you! Lol lord knows your back piece is something I didn't know existed, and something that could help with my turbo set up. I agree too many people concern themselves with what others think is"cool" my car I actually DO drive and occasionally track.

      Makes me happy to see there are still guys out there doing what THEY want, not what the scene deems as correct.

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      03-12-2012 01:31 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by teejaybee View Post
      yeah hit us up with some links lol
      http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

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      03-12-2012 09:52 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by 2ptslo View Post
      No need to apologize. this is an open forum you can voice your opinion it really doesn't bother me that much. I simply wanted to state that i'm not ALL about numbers but the experience and the overall feel which this 2.75" system is able to deliver

      As you can see i've been on these forums a while so it's not my first rondevous there is a reason I posted this in the technical 2.5L forum as opposed to MKVI. There seems to be a buncha winy sheep with biased opinions in the other forum as opposed to here where people have a little more technical knowledge and can provide good feedback/opinions.
      A lot of truth in the MKVI statement. At least in the Jetta section, most people are 'derps' and don't know sh*t!

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      03-12-2012 10:45 AM #35
      Not to start anything, but the exhaust topic has been beaten to death.

      Read here.

      Towards the back.

      to a good looking exhaust.

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      03-12-2012 10:56 AM #36
      Sounds and looks dope!

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      03-12-2012 12:06 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by itskohler View Post
      Not to start anything, but the exhaust topic has been beaten to death.

      Read here.

      Towards the back.

      to a good looking exhaust.
      Yep lots of he said she saids in there Not one dyno of proof for the 20v 2.5 5 cylinder, we can speculate all day but do you really think power is being lost from 2.5" to 2.75"? This motor is only .3L less than a 12v VR and that motor has been proven to make more power on 3". The 2.5L is a 4valve motor and moves a ton more air & has light years better technology, i cant be convinced you lose power with a 2.75" or even a 3" unless someone can show me physical proof. Not trying to be a dick just hate how everyone here on vortex takes something someone else says and preaches it as their own.
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      03-12-2012 12:24 PM #38
      Sigh, once again, AWE Tuning tested a 3" pipe with a TURBO 2.0 engine, which minus the turbo is arguably our engine just missing a cylinder. If it isn't worth it on a turbo car (where a wider exhaust SHOULD benefit) than how in the world would it benefit a 2.5? And if it did, don't you think all of the exhaust companies would sell them? Or do they not know what they are talking about either? They only have years of experience...

      Why did we choose 2.5 inch and not 3.0 inch diameter for our MK5 exhaust? Our first prototypes of this system were indeed 3.0 inch, but we found that the effort it took to move the large mass of air in the 3.0 inch system at lower rpms resulted in a loss of torque with very little offsetting gain up top. Take a look at our 3.0 inch prototype dyno sheets here and see why a 3.0 inch system is not appropriate for this car. - AWE.

      Do I think that a .25 of an inch is making or breaking the deal? Not at all. Unless you are creating an actual racecar (I know all of us think our cars are already racecars ) it really doesn't matter.

      And as I have said before, it loos really good and sounds even better. If the owner is happy with it, graphs, charts, numbers, etc really don't matter.

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      03-12-2012 12:58 PM #39
      Apples to oranges and still based off speculation, i do all 2ptlo's installs and have worked with his many projects over the years. Ive been in these same debates back in 99' when people claimed the same horse crap about VRs. Ive had my own years of experience and base decisions like this off proven results ( im no Vortex tuner )I guess it'll take a decade of debate again before the results are proven. Also FYI the 2.0 and 2.5 are nothing alike, ive torn more than my share to pieces.
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      03-12-2012 01:07 PM #40
      EDIT

      Post made out of anger.

      Apples to oranges is correct.


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      03-12-2012 01:16 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by itskohler View Post
      EDIT

      Post made out of anger.

      Apples to oranges is correct.

      Edit: i made the post after you edited

      2.quick really does know what he's talking about. But hey, once dynos come out from someone with too much money and time on their hands that can install a 2.5" and a 3" same day, then we can have a legitimate argument.

      Be honest with yourself, how can anyone say FOR SURE without proof that "if a 2.0L 4 banger turbo didn't benefit from a 3" it MUST mean a 2.5L 5-cylinder N/A engine definitely will not either." I mean that statement is so ridiculous it makes me LMFAO and ROFL
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      03-12-2012 01:17 PM #42
      No brotha just a comparison, this is literally dejavu' of the 12v VR forum back then. Most if not all aftermarket exhausts will yield more power than stock, but the most power they can get isnt they're main priority, profit is. If you feel that statement is invalid then i dont know what to tell you, a business is a business and cost of production is always a factor in manufacturing. They have to keep the prices somewhat competitive & realistic. Think about it no 3" was EVER offered for the VR because "its too big" yet in 2010 amazingly enough it was proven the 3" made more power. Im not argueing with you im argueing the fact your basing your knowledge on product descriptions. Pull an exhaust add from the late 90's and see they claim the same crap. Cost ALWAYS out-weighs total horsepower output for a company looking to sell mass quantities. Thats why proper custom exhausts offered from smaller shops have time and time again shown more power on the dyno than any over the counter exhaust but they're $$$$$$$
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      03-12-2012 01:20 PM #43
      Gad I can entertain you.

      Eurojet, AWE, Techtonics, and Neuspeed must not know anything either. Might wanna give them the heads up and let them know that the research they did was wrong...

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      03-12-2012 01:21 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.Quick View Post
      No brotha just a comparison, this is literally dejavu' of the 12v VR forum back then. Most if not all aftermarket exhausts will yield more power than stock, but the most power they can get isnt they're main priority, profit is. If you feel that statement is invalid then i dont know what to tell you, a business is a business and cost of production is always a factor in manufacturing. They have to keep the prices somewhat competitive & realistic. Think about it no 3" was EVER offered for the VR because "its too big" yet in 2010 amazingly enough it was proven the 3" made more power. Im not argueing with you im argueing the fact your basing your knowledge on product descriptions. Pull an exhaust add from the late 90's and see they claim the same crap. Cost ALWAYS out-weighs total horsepower output for a company looking to sell mass quantities. Thats why proper custom exhausts offered from smaller shops have time and time again shown more power on the dyno than any over the counter exhaust but they're $$$$$$$
      I agree to a certain extent...it doesn't really matter what you are I believe as truth.

      OPs 2.75 is doing fine by him, that is what matters.

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      03-12-2012 01:29 PM #45
      Dont get mad dude, TTTuning, Neuspeed, Eurosport have been around forever and never offered anything over 2.25" or 2.5" yet today they're years of experience were shown when recent dyno pulls were performed showing they're exhausts did indeed make more power, but the whole 3" is too big and backpressure loss claims were crap. Do you think they want to come out and say "this system yields us more profit and is more cost affective?" No they only state what the exhaust has to offer. They build great quality stuff and every one of them make power, but claiming a larger exhaust makes less power " because none of them make one" is just silliness. Id be glad to split the cost of back to back dyno pulls with you. Im not trying to attack you just educate you that you cant write off certain things "just because they say so." I dont want to get 2ptlo's post locked so i'll end with this. No hard feelings just bringing information to light.
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      03-12-2012 02:07 PM #46
      We here in the 2.5 forum seldom get locked...it's only because we all actually discuss without getting personal and this is a perfect example of how awesome the 2.5 Forum is. Disagreeing, but never going over the top insulting one another.

      welcome to possibly the only area on vortex that everyone seriously gets along!
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      03-12-2012 02:16 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by TylerO28 View Post
      We here in the 2.5 forum seldom get locked...it's only because we all actually discuss without getting personal and this is a perfect example of how awesome the 2.5 Forum is. Disagreeing, but never going over the top insulting one another.

      welcome to possibly the only area on vortex that everyone seriously gets along!


      reinforcing yet again why I posted in here not MKVI forum
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      03-12-2012 02:18 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by TylerO28 View Post
      We here in the 2.5 forum seldom get locked...it's only because we all actually discuss without getting personal and this is a perfect example of how awesome the 2.5 Forum is. Disagreeing, but never going over the top insulting one another.

      welcome to possibly the only area on vortex that everyone seriously gets along!
      Couldnt agree more. Everyone here shares their point of view without bashing one another. I barely venture to any other area on Vortex because of this.

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      03-12-2012 02:22 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.Quick View Post
      Im not trying to attack you just educate you that you cant write off certain things "just because they say so." I dont want to get 2ptlo's post locked so i'll end with this. No hard feelings just bringing information to light.
      None taken. Its gonna take a lot more than banter back and forth in a forum to get under my skin.
      Quote Originally Posted by TylerO28 View Post
      We here in the 2.5 forum seldom get locked...it's only because we all actually discuss without getting personal and this is a perfect example of how awesome the 2.5 Forum is. Disagreeing, but never going over the top insulting one another.

      welcome to possibly the only area on vortex that everyone seriously gets along!
      For real. I visit other areas every once in a while and immediately come back here. I don't even go to the MKV forums unless it's really slow.

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      03-12-2012 02:23 PM #50
      so this is strange...I attempted to provide a link to the downpipe for everyone and it's completely GONE off eBay hmmmm....
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