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    Thread: Meet my red-headed stepchild!

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      03-10-2012 09:55 PM #1
      Well hello everybody!

      Guess where I just came from?

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      Give up?

      OK, I'll tell you: I just got back from Ohio with my newest project! Craig (shrttracker) was gracious enough to squander his day and come trailer it with me.

      Apparently it's a Scirocco. It was made in 1986. I know! I was surprised too! I mean, who knew VW made Sciroccos after 1981 !?

      I got it running after tinkering with it for a bit, and actually, it runs like a top! It has no title, but my boys kept hounding me until finally I could refuse no longer (actually they only asked once). We started tearing around our subdivision in it. I'm usually pretty helpful around the 'hood so no complaints resulted, but I did push the envelope, what with no plates and all...



      The car has a funny looking engine I've never seen before. Apparently it's quite a bit stonger than the ones I'm used to, because the car easily left numerous black decorative stripes on my street, along with a pleasing, albeit acrid smell that hung in the air in front of my house for a few minutes. Visibility was also somewhat reduced by the white haze produced during the procedure, and the right front tire is now quite smooth and even has bits of string hanging out of it. I don't think that's normal.



      There's a gauge on the dash that moves in a clockwise fashion whenever I push on the gas. I tried my best to keep the needle all the way in the red, but such noise! Thinking something might be wrong, I did some research and discovered it's a so-called "tachometer", and that the red part was in fact not the objective. But it was too late: by then the car had already decided to reward me with a moderate drip from the radiator.



      I understand whenever a guy saves one of these cars from the crusher, the car marks the driveway as a gesture of gratitude? I'm told they do this a lot? When I think about it, that just doesn't seem right to me...

      By the way, the car came with a large black steering wheel, but I just HAD to have the little pink one. I paid quite a bit extra to get it, but I know value when I see it .



      The car comes with some special features I'm sure you all will appreciate. For example, the emergency brake is quite reliable, although you do have to jump out of the car to apply it. You'll also note the exhaust system, which was carefully crafted from multiple sources, some of them automotive. Through meticulous and repeated applications of salt, the car is now much more lightweight, although I have a new gas MIG welder, so in spite of the performance advantage, I think I will reverse this modification.



      Finally, the front springs are cut and the car comes with the coveted "swaybar delete" option, so the handling has a pleasing "Cadillac" feel to it, something I prize in all my vehicles.

      Anyhoo, I thought you'd all like to meet this newest member of our happy, although sometimes dysfunctional Volkswagen family.

      We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

      Edit: to remove typos created by my Ipad without my consent .
      Last edited by echassin; 03-10-2012 at 09:59 PM.

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      03-10-2012 10:05 PM #2
      Congrats! Now change that timing belt!

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      03-10-2012 10:21 PM #3
      Yes! That is one lucky 16v, and I can tell it already loves you too.

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      03-10-2012 10:22 PM #4
      what?!?!

      echassin has a mk2?

      a 16v?

      and it's RUSTY??

      WTF!? my world is falling apart!

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      03-10-2012 10:51 PM #5
      That rusty wiper arm...it offends the eyes! You know that this thing will end up disassembled and in Eric's basement. At least what he dismembers he puts back together shinier and better.

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      03-10-2012 11:42 PM #6
      Eric, have you thought about ditching that white coat and becoming a writer?

      Seriously, great thread so far. You had me laughing from the start. I'm thoroughly looking forward to your modification reversal progress.

      Carry on. And watch out for the iPad double cross.
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      03-11-2012 06:31 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by TheTimob View Post
      what?!?!

      echassin has a mk2?

      a 16v?

      and it's RUSTY??

      WTF!? my world is falling apart!
      and he's tearing up the neighbourhood and hooning around leaving black marks on the road?

      Yeah, it's official....Belsebub just started wearing long Johns.....
      Scirocco inventory currently at 1% and holding.

      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      the problem is not with me, you see. The problem is the car. It's a Mk2. It's already gotten way more attention than it deserved

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      03-11-2012 09:22 AM #8
      Start cleaning!!!!
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      03-11-2012 10:49 AM #9
      Any time some one adopts a scirocco is a good thing.
      A saved from crusher is a awesome thing.
      [IMG][/IMG]
      its just marking its territory.
      nice find great save,I am having a hard time with stripping the buzz bomb,they
      Grow on you like your favorite pet.

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      03-11-2012 11:07 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bee View Post
      Start cleaning!!!!
      Yessiree

      In fact, I've already started and I'm pleased to report that I received a 30 cent refund on my purchase price, in the form of three dimes, and as we all know, it's the little victories that count.

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      03-11-2012 11:18 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by TheTimob View Post
      what?!?!

      echassin has a mk2?

      a 16v?

      and it's RUSTY??

      WTF!? my world is falling apart!
      Quote Originally Posted by Mk1Madness
      Back when making your car faster and better handling was the big thing.
      Quote Originally Posted by Eistreiber
      Yeah, I prefer slow-cooked bacon; and bacon grease saved is great for frying other stuff, adds some good flavor to almost anything. Except maybe tofu, that stuff is beyond help.
      Quote Originally Posted by Tavarish
      The car's best safety feature includes ejecting you in the moment of impact and wishing you the best of luck.

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      03-11-2012 01:49 PM #12
      By swaybar delete I am guessing you are talking about the front swaybar?

      If so mine is missing the front as well, and I don't really understand why the previous owner would do that.

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      03-11-2012 03:06 PM #13
      i have a front swaybar that i'll trade you for that neglected 81 scirocco you have....
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      03-11-2012 03:18 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Shrttrackr View Post
      i have a front swaybar that i'll trade you for that neglected 81 scirocco you have....
      I have one I'll trade you for that even more neglected GTI of yours.
      Deal with it.
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      03-11-2012 08:19 PM #15
      Holy left turn, bat, err...kneeman!

      Wow. A MK2 and an imperfect one at that. You're bringing your average down, whick puts your fleet a little closer to the rest of us in terms of overall condition. Keep it up.

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      03-11-2012 08:26 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Blaines_Rocco View Post
      By swaybar delete I am guessing you are talking about the front swaybar?

      If so mine is missing the front as well, and I don't really understand why the previous owner would do that.
      induced over steer instead of scary understeer
      Its hard to make a comeback if you've never left

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      03-11-2012 10:14 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by LubsDaDubs View Post
      induced over steer instead of scary understeer
      From what the rest of the car looks like, it seems more like "it was a pain to put it back, so I threw it away", not "I'm fine tuning the balance of the car"

      Today I started stripping the shell, made quite a mess in the garage but had time to tuck it all away in the basement, nice and neat:



      I got most of the interior out and spent quite a while labelling all the harnesses, what they do and exactly where they get clipped into place. Also, I got the windshield out intact , as well as the headliner out intact



      More of the same tomorrow. In the meantime, I'm sure one of you recognizes this part, some kind of cover?



      A demain

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      03-11-2012 10:15 PM #18
      Is it clean yet?
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      03-11-2012 10:21 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      More of the same tomorrow. In the meantime, I'm sure one of you recognizes this part, some kind of cover?



      A demain

      Rear wiper motor cover.

      You sure move fast.
      Quote Originally Posted by Mk1Madness
      Back when making your car faster and better handling was the big thing.
      Quote Originally Posted by Eistreiber
      Yeah, I prefer slow-cooked bacon; and bacon grease saved is great for frying other stuff, adds some good flavor to almost anything. Except maybe tofu, that stuff is beyond help.
      Quote Originally Posted by Tavarish
      The car's best safety feature includes ejecting you in the moment of impact and wishing you the best of luck.

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      03-11-2012 10:42 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bee View Post
      Is it clean yet?
      No

      Thanks Mark. The car lost the rear wiper at some point. I'm pretty sure I'll leave it off, and therefore shave the sprayer, and revise the harnesses accordingly.

      Along those lines, from what I've seen thus far the car could stand to go on a diet and lose a lot of fluff. I'm perfectly content to push locks and crank windows. I'll try to do it right so anything that I delete is gone from the fuse panel and harnesses also, and doesn't leave unsightly holes.

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      03-12-2012 12:08 AM #21
      Here he goes....off and running.
      Last edited by sciroccojim; 03-12-2012 at 12:40 PM.

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      03-12-2012 08:56 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      Along those lines, from what I've seen thus far the car could stand to go on a diet and lose a lot of fluff. I'm perfectly content to push locks and crank windows. I'll try to do it right so anything that I delete is gone from the fuse panel and harnesses also, and doesn't leave unsightly holes.
      The power window harness is totally modular. The relay and fuse for it clip to the top of the fuse panel, and plug into the back of the panel with a spade. This way, you can remove the entire window harness, switches, motors, relay and fuse without cutting a single thing.

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      03-12-2012 09:16 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by TheTimob View Post
      The power window harness is totally modular. The relay and fuse for it clip to the top of the fuse panel, and plug into the back of the panel with a spade. This way, you can remove the entire window harness, switches, motors, relay and fuse without cutting a single thing.
      That's good to know! Hopefully it's the same for the locks, rear sprayer, mirrors, etc...

      Today I have to go to work

      I know, WTF?

    24. 03-12-2012 10:01 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by sciroccojim View Post
      Here he goes....off an running.
      &&

      Quote Originally Posted by Mtl-Marc View Post
      You sure move fast.

      If I didn't know better I'd think you were going to widen the wheel arches and paint it Viper Green in a few weeks...

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      Between work and other stuff, I only had time to clear the rain tray and get the hatch off.

      I'm sure those of you who have had a later car knew this already, but for an old hat mk1 type like myself, I was flabbergasted by how much heavy isht VW stuffed into the back of the car, including a vacuum pump to power an air solenoid to unlock the trunk I mean jeez, even the wing weighs a ton

      I don't want to be lazy about reassembling this car, but there are definitely a number of things I'll be omitting...

      Fresh air box out:



      Hatch off. Look how high the car sits with 100 pounds off it


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      03-13-2012 08:02 AM #26
      Making it lighter eh? hmmmmm
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      03-13-2012 10:44 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bee View Post
      Making it lighter eh? hmmmmm
      I've always known that Mk2's were heavier, heck even a late Mk1 is heavier than a '75, but I wonder how much of this car's "extra" weight is easily removed, and how much is intrinsic the the car, i.e. the extra nose sheet metal, the 16V, the big wing, etc... things that will stay.

      I'd like to keep the sunroof and put back the A/C and radio, so "some" extra weight is reasonable IMO.

      No "real" work today so I hope the get a lot done on the car.

      'Later dudes and dudettes

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      03-13-2012 12:02 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      I've always known that Mk2's were heavier, heck even a late Mk1 is heavier than a '75, but I wonder how much of this car's "extra" weight is easily removed, and how much is intrinsic the the car, i.e. the extra nose sheet metal, the 16V, the big wing, etc... things that will stay.
      You could always convert to the small wing. Hell, Mtl-Marc has a small Zender wing that he'd probably give away! In fact, he owes me one. One time I gave him a perfectly good Borla muffler - FOR FREE! And he didn't even say thank you, he just drove by it like it was scrap metal.

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      03-13-2012 12:30 PM #29
      more like 'swerved around'

      see? who says a Mk2 isn't light on its feet. Or was he driving the A4.

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      03-13-2012 12:55 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bee View Post
      more like 'swerved around'

      see? who says a Mk2 isn't light on its feet. Or was he driving the A4.

      Idontreallyremember.
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      03-13-2012 09:56 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by scirocco*joe View Post
      You could always convert to the small wing.
      I like the way the big wing looks, and I like the body kit too. This is a car I covetted when I was in college, so it needs to look right to soothe my emotional wounds

      Today I didn't have to go to work so I got a lot done. No repairs, just remove a part, catalog the part, put the part away, repeat, and repeat some more.

      Here's where it's at:



      Back end cleared out of every wire, screw, and clip:



      Keith earning dinner (you didn't think the rascals lived here for free, didja?):



      As expected, once the body kit came off, my "rust-free" car turned out to have plenty of free rust The arches have a few spots like this, and some bondo:



      The passenger fender was perfect, but the driver fender has this on the bottom:



      Thankfully the A pillar underneath looks great:



      I'll fix the rotted areas with Duct Tape. Meh. It'll be hidden under the body kit...

      JUST KIDDING, I mean don't worry, I won't use the grey tape, I'll use red so it'll look great

      The car still runs *insert throaty 16V sound here*, it's easier to move around this way:



      Tomorrow I have to work, but if I have time, I'll label and organize more of the wiring. Thursday I hope to get the sunroof apart and lay it out somewhere safe from curious little fingers, in such a way that it may someday be reassembled and it working order

      Thereafter, the mechanicals will come out.

      Toodaloo, good night
      Last edited by echassin; 03-13-2012 at 09:59 PM.

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      03-13-2012 10:08 PM #32
      i hate finding rust in hidden areas to, except mine was under half an inch of dam bondo
      some dam PO thought he was a body man and tried to fix it himself

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      03-13-2012 10:15 PM #33
      I love how you stripped the car bare and left the engine in it!

      You should drive it around the block now. It's gotta weigh less than 1800!

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      03-14-2012 12:05 AM #34
      Stripping down a redhead till she's naked.... kinda like the sound if that.
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      03-14-2012 12:35 AM #35
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