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    1. Member Michael Bee's Avatar
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      03-13-2012 07:02 AM #26
      Making it lighter eh? hmmmmm

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      03-13-2012 09:44 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bee View Post
      Making it lighter eh? hmmmmm
      I've always known that Mk2's were heavier, heck even a late Mk1 is heavier than a '75, but I wonder how much of this car's "extra" weight is easily removed, and how much is intrinsic the the car, i.e. the extra nose sheet metal, the 16V, the big wing, etc... things that will stay.

      I'd like to keep the sunroof and put back the A/C and radio, so "some" extra weight is reasonable IMO.

      No "real" work today so I hope the get a lot done on the car.

      'Later dudes and dudettes

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      03-13-2012 11:02 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      I've always known that Mk2's were heavier, heck even a late Mk1 is heavier than a '75, but I wonder how much of this car's "extra" weight is easily removed, and how much is intrinsic the the car, i.e. the extra nose sheet metal, the 16V, the big wing, etc... things that will stay.
      You could always convert to the small wing. Hell, Mtl-Marc has a small Zender wing that he'd probably give away! In fact, he owes me one. One time I gave him a perfectly good Borla muffler - FOR FREE! And he didn't even say thank you, he just drove by it like it was scrap metal.

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      03-13-2012 11:30 AM #29
      more like 'swerved around'

      see? who says a Mk2 isn't light on its feet. Or was he driving the A4.

      Idontreallyremember.

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      03-13-2012 11:55 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bee View Post
      more like 'swerved around'

      see? who says a Mk2 isn't light on its feet. Or was he driving the A4.

      Idontreallyremember.
      Details, shmetails. It was the A4. A black one, if you can believe it!
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      03-13-2012 08:56 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by scirocco*joe View Post
      You could always convert to the small wing.
      I like the way the big wing looks, and I like the body kit too. This is a car I covetted when I was in college, so it needs to look right to soothe my emotional wounds

      Today I didn't have to go to work so I got a lot done. No repairs, just remove a part, catalog the part, put the part away, repeat, and repeat some more.

      Here's where it's at:



      Back end cleared out of every wire, screw, and clip:



      Keith earning dinner (you didn't think the rascals lived here for free, didja?):



      As expected, once the body kit came off, my "rust-free" car turned out to have plenty of free rust The arches have a few spots like this, and some bondo:



      The passenger fender was perfect, but the driver fender has this on the bottom:



      Thankfully the A pillar underneath looks great:



      I'll fix the rotted areas with Duct Tape. Meh. It'll be hidden under the body kit...

      JUST KIDDING, I mean don't worry, I won't use the grey tape, I'll use red so it'll look great

      The car still runs *insert throaty 16V sound here*, it's easier to move around this way:



      Tomorrow I have to work, but if I have time, I'll label and organize more of the wiring. Thursday I hope to get the sunroof apart and lay it out somewhere safe from curious little fingers, in such a way that it may someday be reassembled and it working order

      Thereafter, the mechanicals will come out.

      Toodaloo, good night
      Last edited by echassin; 03-13-2012 at 08:59 PM.

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      03-13-2012 09:08 PM #32
      i hate finding rust in hidden areas to, except mine was under half an inch of dam bondo
      some dam PO thought he was a body man and tried to fix it himself

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      03-13-2012 09:15 PM #33
      I love how you stripped the car bare and left the engine in it!

      You should drive it around the block now. It's gotta weigh less than 1800!

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      03-13-2012 11:05 PM #34
      Stripping down a redhead till she's naked.... kinda like the sound if that.

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      03-13-2012 11:35 PM #35
      Looking good, keep It up!


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      03-14-2012 09:05 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by nickbukowy View Post
      i hate finding rust in hidden areas
      Me too, but I was bracing myself for worse because it's a Midwest car.

      I do need some sheetmetal though:

      Hood
      Cowl patch (no rot, but a hood latch failure bent the driver corner badly)
      Lower driver fender
      Both rear arches
      Both rear inner arches?

      All of these parts could be patched, but I would prefer stamped stuff.

      Now, this is the part where I have to eat Crow (I can hear the snickering already...):

      I see people obtaining new metal, and I see people cutting off parts of shells for each other, but I didn't pay any attention to sources, because I'm a cocky Bastard and figured a rusty car would never find its way here (*infer apology* that's the best I can do ).

      Help!

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      03-14-2012 02:11 PM #38
      Yeah, I got to fix the little rust spots on the inside on the fender well on the back driver side, but I can't get any wire wheels back there, so I'm going to use this stuff that you put on rust and it stops it dead in it's tracks, a good friend of mine used it on a couple of his muscle cars years back and hasn't had any problems since

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      03-14-2012 02:30 PM #39
      Sounds like you're luckier than me, I need new metal.

      Hopefully someone will chime in with the source.

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      03-14-2012 08:29 PM #40
      Big day tomorrow as I start to remove the mechanicals.

      Today I organized the spaces into which I'll store everything. I'm trying to do this in a way that doesn't disrupt the flow of daily life around here, and doing the whole car at once (as opposed to rolling restorations) sure takes a lot of space!

      I also did a little work on the car, the steering column and relay panel are out, and I organized and tagged all the harnesses:



      So now the interior is almost done being stripped. The electricals are so tangled that I won't be able to pull them out until the engine bay is also cleared. My hope (fantasy?) is the do the electrical sytem a bit neater than VW did it, I mean sheesh, what a mess!



      I started a bit in the engine bay too. The fan shroud appears to be from an 8V car, it's quite a bit narrower than the radiator and it was only anchored on one side Oh well, I guess a PO did what it took to keep the car running, kudos for that



      The battery tray is perfect, meaning that unless the underside of the car surprises me, the rear arches and the one fender are the only bad spot on the car:



      Well those and the hood and this damaged area of the cowl, from an apparent latch failure:



      More to come

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      03-14-2012 11:29 PM #41
      Eric, this is the source I see most frequently for sheet metal:

      http://www.klokkerholmusa.com/servlet/StoreFront

      A brief look around showed me no Scirocco-specific parts, but I suppose that depends on what stampings were used amongst the Mk1s. Either that or my poor reading and website navigation skills failed me.

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      03-15-2012 08:55 AM #42
      Woo boy...

      That's the site I've seen mentioned, but a search for "Scirocco" yielded no results. Zero. Nada. None

      I'm beginning to get concerned...

      Any of my problem areas could be reconstructed, but even a great metal worker (which I'm not), would end up using some filler, which y'all may have surmised by now, I don't like...

      Hopefully there's a good skin donor out there somewhere.

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      03-15-2012 09:12 AM #43
      I know its a pain, but if you can brush up on your German, (or use babelfish)
      You can get some nice parts out of Germany...
      Shipping might be a bit costly, but these are the Shizz, for body repair sheetmetal...

      Browse through that store, or use e-bay.de with babelfish translator

      http://www.ebay.de/itm/NEU-Kotflugel...item256ddb61ac

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      03-15-2012 10:19 AM #44
      I have a good used drivers side quarter panel if you need it. The problem is getting it from here to there.
      Deal with it.
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      03-15-2012 11:29 AM #45
      New Project! Happy day for us spectators!

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      03-15-2012 04:33 PM #46
      @ Fred: My wife's a Kraut so maybe she can help me. Unfortunately her car vocabulary is limited even in english (anything drivetrain is "engine", all glass is "window" )...

      @ Chris: Cincy maybe?

      @ Jake: I see you lurk here as well, hope to make this one entertaining for all

      Today I'm keeping it short, it's beautiful out and I wanna goof off with the boys. I did get the suspension and exhaust off, and the tank out:





      The bottom looks pretty good:



      The only rot was where part of the fuel system rubbe the trunk floor for 25 years, it's not near any edges so another piece of red Duct Tape and it should be good as new :



      Adios

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      03-15-2012 05:48 PM #47
      I intend to be there, and I can bring it along if it'll fit in the back of a Mk1. We shall see.
      Deal with it.
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      03-16-2012 12:03 AM #48
      I like your approach to restoring this S2 16v, by dismantling it entirely

      looking forward to seeing the reassembly process of this Scirocco
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      03-16-2012 01:05 AM #49
      The always too far away to be usefull Swede stands up and waves his hand.....

      Klokkerholm is a Danish company that also has a facility here in Sweden. I'll see what I can dig up in part numbers and information for you.

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      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      the problem is not with me, you see. The problem is the car. It's a Mk2. It's already gotten way more attention than it deserved

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      03-16-2012 01:10 AM #50
      Mk2 Rear corners:
      http://www.klokkerholm.com/xProductC...&Group=1612346

      Sadly that seems to be it for the mk2, for the mk1 they list heaps of stuff:

      http://www.klokkerholm.com/xProductC...?Group=1612276

      Shouldn't be undoable to find a shell to cut the wanted parts from tho.
      Scirocco inventory currently at 1% and holding.

      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      the problem is not with me, you see. The problem is the car. It's a Mk2. It's already gotten way more attention than it deserved

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