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      03-16-2012 05:23 PM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by California 16v View Post
      I like your approach to restoring this S2 16v, by dismantling it entirely
      Thank you sir I'm not sure where I'm going with this thing, but start with a shiny clean shell seems like a decent short term goal.

      As for the sheetmetal, we'll just have to see how it all pans out. Worst case scenario I know a good metal worker, but if I use him I'll consider that a sign a weakness .

      Today I continued stripping the car, but I had to cut short for a school fundraiser.

      The tank has a leak from some rust at the pinch weld, I don't know if I'll split the halves and restore them or buy a new tank:



      I drained all the fluids and was pleased at the appearance of the coolant:



      Overall the engine is very dry , only the final drive seals are leaking. I haven't cleaned anything at this point:



      The metering plate looked like this, no wiping:



      The throttle body had a little oil in it, not too bad:



      Here's where I'm at now, hopefully get the rest out tomorrow:





      Edit: at first I assumed the engine was spent and I'd have to rebuild it, but it looks good and I'm wondering if at 181000 miles, maybe somebody got to it already? I can tell from incorrect fasteners and such that it has been out of the car before. I'll run a compression test and then decide what to do. The gear oil also looks good, so maybe I'll just replace all the seals without splitting the case open, I haven't decided yet.

      Happy Friday
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      03-16-2012 05:54 PM #52
      Took a walk around the junk yard today.

      They had a MKII Scirocco there last fall with a clean body, though I would see if it was still around.

      It's still there but in sad shape, a few to many moves with the fork lift I think. Body is now pretty beat up
      , to the point that the roof is buckled.

      I'll keep my eyes open for others, you carry on with the OCD restoration.

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      03-16-2012 06:50 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      The only rot was where part of the fuel system rubbe the trunk floor for 25 years.



      Adios


      Der auto ist rot.
      Quote Originally Posted by Mk1Madness
      Back when making your car faster and better handling was the big thing.
      Quote Originally Posted by Eistreiber
      Yeah, I prefer slow-cooked bacon; and bacon grease saved is great for frying other stuff, adds some good flavor to almost anything. Except maybe tofu, that stuff is beyond help.
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      The car's best safety feature includes ejecting you in the moment of impact and wishing you the best of luck.

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      03-17-2012 08:59 PM #54
      [QUOTE=PoorHouse;76439622I'll keep my eyes open for others[/QUOTE]

      Thank you sir

      Today I got a bunch more stuff off the car, engine out:



      I had to cut one of the bolts :



      Compression test results, no oil in the pan: 155, 140 (150 with a suirt of oil in the cylinder), 155, 155. A mechanic friend said "clean it, paint it, and put it back in". Obviously I will put new seals, clutch, water pump, timing belt, etc... but I agree with him unless y'all have overwhelming evidence that this is a bad idea:



      I got the front end cleared of everything:



      I got the firewall mostly cleared, what mess! I started organizing and labelling the engine bay harnesses so they'll come through the firewall holes:



      Pedals and various cables and hoses out:



      All that remains on the car is are the harnesses, the exhaust heat shield, the brake and fuel lines, and the sunroof. I'll do the harnesses, heat shield and the sunroof with the car as is, and the hard lines with the car on its side.

      Adios

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      03-17-2012 09:10 PM #55
      Eric, I remember this quote from you:
      You, my friend are at that point too


      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      Quote, originally posted by fredybender »


      This type of pic is always my favorite. Getting a car stripped to this point, it's staggering to even think about it all, for those of us who have never done it.
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      03-17-2012 09:24 PM #56
      Factory roof in this hog?

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      03-17-2012 10:16 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      Compression test results, no oil in the pan: 155, 140 (150 with a suirt of oil in the cylinder), 155, 155. A mechanic friend said "clean it, paint it, and put it back in". Obviously I will put new seals, clutch, water pump, timing belt, etc... but I agree with him unless y'all have overwhelming evidence that this is a bad idea:

      If you are going this far with this car, taking the motor apart and having new bearings, rings and oil pump is not that much more money. You can have the block hot tanked, and painted. Lap the valves and making sure everything is good and within specs.
      Quote Originally Posted by Mk1Madness
      Back when making your car faster and better handling was the big thing.
      Quote Originally Posted by Eistreiber
      Yeah, I prefer slow-cooked bacon; and bacon grease saved is great for frying other stuff, adds some good flavor to almost anything. Except maybe tofu, that stuff is beyond help.
      Quote Originally Posted by Tavarish
      The car's best safety feature includes ejecting you in the moment of impact and wishing you the best of luck.

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      03-18-2012 10:10 AM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bee View Post
      Factory roof in this hog?
      Yessir.

      @Marc: your point is the logical counterpoint to my current preference. I'm leaving both as options depending on how things go.

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      03-18-2012 11:27 AM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      Yessir.

      @Marc: your point is the logical counterpoint to my current preference. I'm leaving both as options depending on how things go.
      In my experience, with a project of this level, usually the one thing you try and skip doing will bite you in the but.

      I would say stuff like bushings, seals etc all need to go new and it is much better to refresh the motor inside and out while it is out.

      It would suck to put it all in and then need to rip it apart shortly after.


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      03-18-2012 03:03 PM #60
      The boys had some friends here for a sleep over and I made a nice big breakfast for them, plus I'm having company over for a BBQ, but I was able to get more stuff off the car. Now the only thing that remains is the sunroof, which is fairly clean work that I'll do during the week after work.

      Speaking of work, some people wonder how I get grubby at home, but then get clean to do surgery. The trick is Kevlar gloves that I use in the O.R. to keep from cutting myself. When I'm working on the cars, I wear a layer of latex, and the Kevlar keeps the latex from ripping. Here's my hands at the end of the day yesterday, before washing them. You can see how dirty the Kevlar gets:



      Anyhoo, here's the wiring out and organized:



      The shell is pretty empty by now:



      Heat shield is off and I was able to snake off the hard lines too:





      Fuel pump bracket; I'll just throw some black paint on it and call it good :



      Anyone know what this is? It was sitting up by the firewall in the engine bay . at first I thought it was a golf tee, but it's hollow:



      Next is the sunroof, and then it's time to rig up a tiptissory

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      03-18-2012 03:19 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      Speaking of work, some people wonder how I get grubby at home, but then get clean to do surgery. The trick is Kevlar gloves that I use in the O.R. to keep from cutting myself. When I'm working on the cars, I wear a layer of latex, and the Kevlar keeps the latex from ripping. Here's my hands at the end of the day yesterday, before washing them. You can see how dirty the Kevlar gets:



      We are going to need a group buy on the kevlar gloves.


      Do you have a blast cabinet for the little pieces?

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      03-18-2012 07:40 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by PoorHouse View Post


      Do you have a blast cabinet for the little pieces?
      Yes, but if I blast that fuel pump bracket, it will vanish

      Hey, if y'all have ever wondered: a bare mk2 shell weighs 500 lbs We weighed it using a bathroom scale under the corners and added it up.

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      03-18-2012 09:00 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      Anyone know what this is? It was sitting up by the firewall in the engine bay . at first I thought it was a golf tee, but it's hollow:

      Looks like part of the bonnet release.

      See post #8

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      03-18-2012 09:20 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      Yes, but if I blast that fuel pump bracket, it will vanish

      Hey, if y'all have ever wondered: a bare mk2 shell weighs 500 lbs We weighed it using a bathroom scale under the corners and added it up.
      Hehehe...
      Did you know a Mk1 weighted 360lbs
      Thats 38% lighter...

      Hats off to you Eric, for taking this on, I really hope you're having as much fun doing it, as I am watching you, doing it
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      03-18-2012 09:32 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by fredybender View Post
      Hehehe...
      Did you know a Mk1 weighted 360lbs
      Thats 38% lighter...
      A kitted MK2 has less drag than a mk1, so it can get a higher top speed!
      Quote Originally Posted by Mk1Madness
      Back when making your car faster and better handling was the big thing.
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      Yeah, I prefer slow-cooked bacon; and bacon grease saved is great for frying other stuff, adds some good flavor to almost anything. Except maybe tofu, that stuff is beyond help.
      Quote Originally Posted by Tavarish
      The car's best safety feature includes ejecting you in the moment of impact and wishing you the best of luck.

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      03-18-2012 09:39 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by DT1 View Post
      Looks like part of the bonnet release.

      See post #8

      http://forums.kilometermagazine.com/...etails-diagram
      Yep. Here's the pic from the post:


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      03-18-2012 09:48 PM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by TheTimob View Post
      Yep. Here's the pic from the post:

      Yep, it was indeed missing off the cable, thanks

      Fred, yours and a few others on Vortex are the inspiration for me trying this. It's been fun so far because for decades I've fixed A1 VWs, even rebuilt a few gearboxes. But I've never started with a bare shell and added each bit back to it one by one, I'm looking forward to that

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      03-18-2012 10:16 PM #68
      Eric: I just might end up at your house just for sh!its & giggles to help you wrench out!
      I also hope, and wish you "pace" to help you, and your family, get through this.
      Never loose the "pace" : have up & down swings, to take care of the real stuff, not the "German stuff", although I am a vivid fan, of "get it done"

      I am looking forward of seeing you again at Cincy!

      PS: this thread is Epic !
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      03-18-2012 11:09 PM #69
      Don't worry, for years I was a super-busy surgeon but I got burned out, and now I only accept about 1/4 of the work I used to, it's the best choice I've ever made.

      I sleep 8 hours every night, do all my chores, and have plenty of free time while the boys are at school, and when my wife is sick of having me underfoot and grabbing her a$$ .

      I don't work long hours on my various projects, nor do I rush, nothing magic, but a few hours every single day adds up fast.

      I will be at Cincy, but with the GTI, er Kia .

      Anyone is welcome to come visit. Jim and Timbo have stopped by

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      03-18-2012 11:11 PM #70
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      03-18-2012 11:44 PM #71


      at this pace, you're gonna pass me up! I'm taking a vaca soon, I'm whooped. Very anxious to follow your progress

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      03-19-2012 09:16 AM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by veedubtek View Post


      at this pace, you're gonna pass me up!
      Lol, no way. I stripped the car fast because so I could tuck evrything away in the basement and minimize the mess.

      This week I have a fair amount of "real" work, but I'll try to get the sunroof out and start on the tiptissery.

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      03-19-2012 09:54 PM #73
      Another nice Spring day in Chicago, and relaxing with a tasty beverage (or two) outside didn't leave much time to work on the car.

      Plus, with "help" like this, it's hard to be efficient, but it's more fun this way :



      I did get the sunroof out intact. It'll need new upholstery, and hopefully one of you guys knows how to put it all back in :



      After dinner I farted around with the engine, hoping that stuff comes apart OK. I was happy to get the exhaust manifold off without breaking any studs. I don't think I ever achieved that before, so no Helicoils on this bad boy :



      The water pump also makes for stubborn fasteners sometimes, but it came off without a hitch too:



      Tomorrow I have a long day at work, but maybe I'll strip the engine a bit more.

      Nighty night

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      03-20-2012 11:18 AM #74


      I've seen your work. Really enjoying this thread so far.

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      03-20-2012 09:59 PM #75
      Thank you sir.

      I got a few more bits off the engine and took off the gearbox and clutch.

      I have to say I was very pleased to see that VW used 10mm triples square bolts to mount the starter instead of the Allen bolts that worked fine on several million other A1 cars .

      Yes, I admit that I do not have a 10mm triple square tool, but it never came up before.

      I have to spend a few days organizing the pile of parts in the basement. The way it is now, it is unlikely that I will be able to remember how to put the car back together right

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