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    1. 03-11-2012 12:26 PM #1
      Test drove the TDI SEL premium--what's up with the road noise on the highway? Very much considering this car, love the look but the road noise might be a deal breaker..

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      03-11-2012 12:33 PM #2
      I say its the tires, the noise changes with the road surface,, bad choice of tires by VW.

    3. 03-11-2012 12:36 PM #3
      So what would you do? Change out tires and what tires would you install? Would the dealer give a credit towards tires?

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      03-11-2012 03:36 PM #4
      I checked the dealer lot for other Passats for different tires. Had the dealer swap wheels from another car and wound up with Bridgestones instead of the crappy Hankooks.
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      03-11-2012 08:20 PM #5
      My Bridgestones quieted quite a bit after a few hundred miles. They were very loud when I first got the car. Now I notice the road noise in other people's cars but wouldn't go so far as to tell you it's a super quiet car.

    6. 03-11-2012 08:56 PM #6
      Thanks for the replies...downsizing from an Acadia, super quiet ride, I am disappointed in the road noise level of the Passat..

    7. 03-11-2012 09:51 PM #7
      I changed my tires to the conti. DWS tires and it a bit quiter but in no way is the car quite.....actually the car is really really loud over most freeway surfaces. The jetta is much quiter of a car and a bit cheaper if size doesnt matter.

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      03-11-2012 10:47 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by B7Passat View Post
      I changed my tires to the conti. DWS tires and it a bit quiter but in no way is the car quite.....actually the car is really really loud over most freeway surfaces. The jetta is much quiter of a car and a bit cheaper if size doesnt matter.
      Really? In my opinion, it is pretty quiet. Or maybe because I drive SUV most of the time.

    9. 03-11-2012 10:55 PM #9
      As compared to my 2003 jetta, 2007 jetta, 2011 CC, 2006 dodge diesel truck and every new loaner jetta I have driven YES its a very loud car! IMO its the loudest VW I have every driven or owned.

    10. 03-11-2012 11:25 PM #10
      I have excessive amounts of wind noise from both front windows, car only has 5K miles. Have taking it to two dealers and communication with CORP, who stated that this is apart of the Design and it was not an issue.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZptn...CEchcCboJBXrs=

    11. 03-12-2012 01:43 AM #11
      LOL thats a typical VW answer....and the reason I dont have my 2011 CC anymore.

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      03-12-2012 02:10 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by zeplman View Post
      I have excessive amounts of wind noise from both front windows, car only has 5K miles. Have taking it to two dealers and communication with CORP, who stated that this is apart of the Design and it was not an issue.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZptn...CEchcCboJBXrs=
      I just checked that video. I don't have that problem on my 12 Passat.

    13. 03-12-2012 07:36 AM #13
      I have this exact problem (from the video) with my Passat. I too reported to the dealer, and went as far as to road test another Passat (that was unsold) with a tech, and it also had the same problem. Until VW start getting some complaints and come out with a service bulletin on it, the problem will likely remain.

      What really sucks about is that I could have gone out and bought a $10,000 Pontiac and it would have been quieter.

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      03-12-2012 10:15 AM #14
      We test drove 2 different cars (including the one we eventually brought home), and we thought both were perfectly acceptable for the Passat's place in the market - my partner traded an '08 Saab 9-3 Sportcombi, and he was impressed with the Passat's ride/noise levels. Our car isn't Lexus-quiet, but it's not supposed to be.

      We will probably, however, replace the OEM tires with (GASP!!) Goodyear Assurance Comfortreds when the time comes. We did that for Steven's Saab, and it made a big difference in noise and ride comfort. Handling did not suffer one bit, at least for the way we drive.

    15. 03-13-2012 05:27 AM #15
      Zeplman--you do not look like a happy camper and I am afraid that's what I will look like for 30 something grand. My husband really likes the interior and all the options but I drive 80 miles a day to work, 1/2 highway, and I don't have the time or money to fool around with tire changes. Didn't notice the wind cause the road noise was so loud. Drove a Toyota XLE and SE--QUIET and smooth ride but definitely not as nice looking as the Passat.

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      03-13-2012 10:07 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by zeplman View Post
      I have excessive amounts of wind noise from both front windows, car only has 5K miles. Have taking it to two dealers and communication with CORP, who stated that this is apart of the Design and it was not an issue.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZptn...CEchcCboJBXrs=
      That is horrible. I don't know how they can call that normal when most of us don't have that. I get some tire hum on chip seal but wind is fine in my car. Hope you can force a resolution.

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      03-13-2012 10:31 AM #17
      if it makes anybody feel better, I noticed that some of the new arriving inventory are showing up with Bridgestone EL400 instead of the Hankook Optimo...But if you ever had the EL400, they are just as bad when half worn...terrible humming and whining sound.

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      03-13-2012 11:10 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by AsianDude View Post
      if it makes anybody feel better, I noticed that some of the new arriving inventory are showing up with Bridgestone EL400 instead of the Hankook Optimo...But if you ever had the EL400, they are just as bad when half worn...terrible humming and whining sound.
      No wonder! Cause ours came with Bridgestone ones...
      This could be the reason why I get much lower road noise.

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      03-17-2012 03:36 PM #19
      My comfort line TDI is exceptionally quiet, with virtually no wind noise and very minimal road noise. The Canadian TDI comes with 17" wheels as opposed to the 18" and in my test driving I found that the 18" (Hankooks in both cases) wheels were much noisier.

    20. 03-17-2012 07:40 PM #20
      Well went and test drove it one more time. Different Passat, different tires...still couldn't handle the road noise..so i won't be buying a Passat this time around

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      03-17-2012 07:53 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by zeplman View Post
      I have excessive amounts of wind noise from both front windows, car only has 5K miles. Have taking it to two dealers and communication with CORP, who stated that this is apart of the Design and it was not an issue.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZptn...CEchcCboJBXrs=
      Did ths wind noise show itself duing your test drive?

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      03-17-2012 08:04 PM #22
      We've had 2 Audis and a Saab, and our B7 SEL is as quiet or moreso than any car we've had.

    23. 03-17-2012 08:27 PM #23
      Man I wish mine was....unfortuntely mine is just the opposite.... Loudest "Road Noise" car Ive ever owned!

    24. 03-18-2012 07:37 AM #24
      Regarding the wind noise...didn't notice on the first test drive, on the second there was 'some' wind noise from the mirrors but not nearly the wind noise Zeplman has in his video. I am still bumming about this vechicle...it is such a nice looking car inside and out...ended up purchasing a Buick Lacrosse yesterday for the quiet and smooth ride..gas mileage is not going to anywhere near the TDI SEL but i couldn't pass up the quieter ride...husband said that VW was looking into tire changes from the complaints they have received. I also think they have skimped on sound deading materials cause I can't think of any other reason for such road noise..

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      03-18-2012 08:22 AM #25
      There will be some kind of recall if you want to call it, for door and Window seals, vw is aware of it, that's per service manager, he is on a vw commity

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      03-18-2012 08:53 AM #26
      The B7 is a quiet car when compared to other sedans but isn't the quietest Passat ever. I think changing the tires will help a lot, especially in rough surfaces. This car is quiet overall, it's just a few small details that can make it even better. I'm sure VW will have everything fixed with the next model year and probably they will do a TSB to get the 2012s to that level. All I can say is that I really like this car and it's worth every single penny.

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      03-18-2012 09:09 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbonium20V View Post
      The B7 is a quiet car when compared to other sedans but isn't the quietest Passat ever. I think changing the tires will help a lot, especially in rough surfaces. This car is quiet overall, it's just a few small details that can make it even better. I'm sure VW will have everything fixed with the next model year and probably they will do a TSB to get the 2012s to that level. All I can say is that I really like this car and it's worth every single penny.
      completely agree....got the JD Power survey yesterday, and I can't really think of anything to say that's wrong....seems like wind noise could always be made better, and the TSB would be great....but I've had no problems so far!

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      03-18-2012 10:21 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by SA-Passat View Post
      That is horrible. I don't know how they can call that normal when most of us don't have that. I get some tire hum on chip seal but wind is fine in my car. Hope you can force a resolution.
      I don't think it's so much an engineering flaw but rather installation failure. Maybe the door seal/weather trim is creased or installed poorly? Maybe the door isn't lined up with the frame? It is a new plant after all so failure rates are likely to be higher since process and protocol is still being refined.

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      03-18-2012 10:30 AM #29
      Specific for road noise, I opted for the undercarriage coating with a selling point being that they spray as much of the front fender wells as possible. We have the hankook optimos and our road noise dropped noticeably.

      Majority of road noise is genrated by the vibrations and noise traveling from the fenders to the frame. The door frame can amplify that energy and instigate more resonance/noise. Perhaps we all should look into adding weight to the fenders in the form of coatings to help dampen the noise and give us a wider selection of tires

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      03-18-2012 01:46 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by I800C0LLECT View Post
      Specific for road noise, I opted for the undercarriage coating with a selling point being that they spray as much of the front fender wells as possible. We have the hankook optimos and our road noise dropped noticeably.

      Majority of road noise is genrated by the vibrations and noise traveling from the fenders to the frame. The door frame can amplify that energy and instigate more resonance/noise. Perhaps we all should look into adding weight to the fenders in the form of coatings to help dampen the noise and give us a wider selection of tires
      Did the dealer apply the undercoating?
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      03-18-2012 02:24 PM #31
      I know this is a totally different car, but my 2012 Golf 2.5 had some horrible tire noise, and vibes coming from certain road surfaces... came with the conti's, took it to the dealer, they said that I needed to go to a certified Continental dealer... drove to the local Discount Tire where they are the up most professional customer care reps I've ever dealt with, they gave me four brand new Yokohama YK540s which were about three tiers above the conti's and gave me 300 towards that purchase (already put 2500 on those stock tires in a month so full credit was not gonna happen), after that there was a little bit of time for break in and softening of the Yokohama's, but overall 10 X's better Ride with these, and I now have road hazard on them so if I decide one is getting a little low on tread, a nail in the side wall will cure that for only $12.50 for a new road hazard on the new tire! Take your Passat's to a local Discount Tire, and talk to them about the crap that is on your car, they will work with you on getting you off that, and on some good rubber and throw on the life time road hazard for around 48.00 depending on the make of tire!

      Again, I know I'm not in a Passat, and it is a really nice car, but trust me, get off those bridgerocks and hancrooks and get on some Yokohama's or what ever Discount says is best for the ride and noise levels... Discount adv me of needing H rating tires because of the German tuned suspensions and the ride will suffer and road noise will be high unless you get on the correct Rated Tire for the brand of car we all drive; Found out the stock tires were rated for American Cars designed and engineered in America... And I needed the correct Rating to fix my problems
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      03-18-2012 02:49 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by jkinzel View Post
      Did the dealer apply the undercoating?
      I did let the local dealer apply the coating but it was part of a contract they have with another local company that sells detailing products.

      I agree with the other comment about getting better tires. I've had great experiences with the yokohama tires. Here's a site that sells a great spray product too...

      http://www.secondskinaudio.com/
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    33. 03-18-2012 09:55 PM #33
      Amorek13...what do you mean there will be a recall if you want to call for it?

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      03-19-2012 02:36 AM #34
      We ordered a TDI SEL that might arrive in July, assuming all the hail damage problems don’t delay it. With a July delivery, I might wait for a 2013. I asked about getting 17” wheels rather than the 18’s and was told “no can do”.

      Has anyone had a dealer swap out wheels during the final purchase process? While the thin tire profile might look good, I like the idea of having more rubber between the steel and the asphalt for a (hopefully) smoother, quieter ride.

      Another question: Is the “tire” road noise only with the 18” or both 17” and 18” wheels?
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      03-19-2012 06:27 AM #35
      As much as I hate these Hankook tires I must say that now that we have about 900 miles on the car the tires noise has gone down. Anyone else notice this???

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