2.5tdi 01P 4th gear slippin

[Odeheim]

Hi All.

Have big problems with my gearbox. Need Help!
I have change all solenoids, converter and clutch disc/plates.

As you can see in the log below all the gears is slippin. What can be wrong?`
4tg gear will not work at all. Can it be something with the speedsensors?`
I dont get any errors for G68 or G38.


Monday,12,March,2012,16:56:45
01P 927 733 CP,,AG4 Getriebe 01P 5061,

,Group A:,'007,,,,Group B:, Not Running,,,,Group C:, Not Running
,, ,RPM,RPM,Load,,,,,,,,,,
,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,
Marker,STAMP,, /min, /min,%,STAMP,,,,,STAMP,,,,
,0.54, 0,0,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,1.10, 0,0,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,1.64, R,0,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,2.13, R,15,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,2.69, 1 +,0,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,3.20, 1 +,855,960,12.9,,,,,,,,,,
,3.73, 1 +,795,900,13.7,,,,,,,,,,
,4.24, 1 +,750,990,25.4,,,,,,,,,,
,4.79, 1 +,840,1200,28.9,,,,,,,,,,
,5.30, 1 +,765,1290,31.3,,,,,,,,,,
,5.81, 1 +,630,1320,31.3,,,,,,,,,,
,6.30, 1 +,420,1230,27.7,,,,,,,,,,
,6.82, 1 +,360,1350,31.6,,,,,,,,,,
,7.36, 1 +,285,1380,31.6,,,,,,,,,,
,7.87, 1 +,225,1410,32.4,,,,,,,,,,
,8.38, 1 +,90,1410,29.7,,,,,,,,,,
,8.92, 1 -,90,1320,28.1,,,,,,,,,,
,9.43, 1 +,330,1170,23.4,,,,,,,,,,
,9.96, 1 +,270,1110,20.7,,,,,,,,,,
,10.44, 1 +,270,1140,26.2,,,,,,,,,,
,10.97, 1 +,225,1110,14.8,,,,,,,,,,
,11.51, 2H +,120,1020,8.6,,,,,,,,,,
,12.04, 2H +,0,840,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,12.53, 2H -,90,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,13.03, 2H -,75,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,13.54, 2H -,60,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,14.03, 2H -,45,810,6.3,,,,,,,,,,
,14.59, 2H +,135,990,21.5,,,,,,,,,,
,15.09, 2H +,285,1140,25.4,,,,,,,,,,
,15.61, 2H +,330,1230,32.4,,,,,,,,,,
,16.14, 2H +,720,1680,44.5,,,,,,,,,,
,16.67, 2H +,840,1890,45.7,,,,,,,,,,
,17.18, 2H +,780,1950,45.7,,,,,,,,,,
,17.69, 2H +,735,1980,45.7,,,,,,,,,,
,18.20, 2H +,765,2070,50.8,,,,,,,,,,
,18.71, 2H +,1080,2130,51.2,,,,,,,,,,
,19.22, 2H +,1395,2490,59.4,,,,,,,,,,
,19.75, 3H +,1215,2190,59.0,,,,,,,,,,
,20.26, 3H +,1095,2190,59.0,,,,,,,,,,
,20.77, 3H +,1050,2190,59.0,,,,,,,,,,
,21.29, 3H +,1020,2220,59.0,,,,,,,,,,
,21.82, 3H +,960,2220,58.2,,,,,,,,,,
,22.32, 3H +,930,2250,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,22.84, 3H +,945,2340,64.5,,,,,,,,,,
,23.37, 3H +,990,2430,66.0,,,,,,,,,,
,23.88, 3H +,930,2460,70.3,,,,,,,,,,
,24.41, 3H +,1005,2610,73.4,,,,,,,,,,
,24.92, 3H +,960,2640,69.1,,,,,,,,,,
,25.41, 3H +,780,2520,62.5,,,,,,,,,,
,25.93, 3H +,615,2400,63.3,,,,,,,,,,
,26.45, 3H +,660,2490,64.1,,,,,,,,,,
,26.96, 3H +,705,2580,68.8,,,,,,,,,,
,27.46, 3H +,765,2700,80.5,,,,,,,,,,
,27.97, 3H +,900,2910,84.0,,,,,,,,,,
,28.50, 3H +,705,2760,62.5,,,,,,,,,,
,29.03, 3H +,765,2130,25.4,,,,,,,,,,
,29.54, 3H +,75,1440,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,30.05, 4H -,525,840,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,30.56, 4H -,630,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,31.09, 4H -,600,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,31.60, 4H -,570,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,32.13, 4H -,555,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,32.64, 4H -,540,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,33.16, 4H -,510,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,33.67, 4H -,510,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,34.18, 4H -,495,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,34.69, 4H -,480,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,35.24, 4H -,450,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,35.75, 4H -,420,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,36.26, 4H -,405,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,36.77, 4H -,390,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,37.30, 4H -,360,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,37.79, 4H -,360,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,38.32, 4H -,345,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,38.83, 4H -,330,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,39.34, 4H -,300,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,39.87, 4H -,30,1050,27.7,,,,,,,,,,
,40.41, 4H +,960,2100,39.8,,,,,,,,,,
,40.92, 4H +,1275,2820,40.2,,,,,,,,,,
,41.41, 4H +,1530,3030,38.7,,,,,,,,,,
,41.92, 3H -,195,1230,12.9,,,,,,,,,,
,42.44, 3H +,195,1710,35.2,,,,,,,,,,
,42.95, 3H +,525,2010,47.7,,,,,,,,,,
,43.48, 3H +,645,2160,48.0,,,,,,,,,,
,43.99, 3H +,555,2070,36.7,,,,,,,,,,
,44.52, 3H -,120,1320,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,45.06, 3H -,555,900,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,45.55, 3H -,390,1110,16.8,,,,,,,,,,
,46.05, 3H -,0,1440,23.8,,,,,,,,,,
,46.56, 3H +,105,1470,20.3,,,,,,,,,,
,47.05, 3H -,15,1350,13.7,,,,,,,,,,
,47.56, 3H -,390,930,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,48.06, 3H -,465,810,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,48.57, 3H -,495,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,49.11, 3H -,465,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,49.62, 3H -,375,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,50.17, 3H -,285,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,50.71, 3H -,195,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,51.27, 3H -,75,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,51.80, 3H +,15,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,52.33, 3H -,255,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,52.82, 2H -,165,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,53.33, 2H -,135,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,53.84, 2H -,75,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,54.39, 2H -,0,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,54.90, 2H +,15,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,55.39, 2H +,45,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,55.92, 2H +,135,840,8.6,,,,,,,,,,
,56.41, 2H +,240,960,16.4,,,,,,,,,,
,56.92, 2H +,255,990,15.2,,,,,,,,,,
,57.47, 2H +,225,930,14.5,,,,,,,,,,
,58.00, 2H +,210,900,14.5,,,,,,,,,,
,58.51, 2H +,210,900,9.4,,,,,,,,,,
,59.05, 2H +,165,840,5.1,,,,,,,,,,
,59.61, 2H +,180,840,5.1,,,,,,,,,,
,60.15, 2H +,150,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,60.65, 2H +,150,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,61.14, 2H +,210,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,61.67, 2H +,270,810,9.8,,,,,,,,,,
,62.15, 2H +,480,990,17.6,,,,,,,,,,
,62.66, 2H +,855,1350,43.4,,,,,,,,,,
,63.17, 2H +,1140,1740,48.0,,,,,,,,,,
,63.70, 2H +,1185,1890,51.6,,,,,,,,,,
,64.21, 2H +,1140,2010,58.2,,,,,,,,,,
,64.73, 2H +,1110,2130,58.6,,,,,,,,,,
,65.26, 2H +,1065,2280,63.3,,,,,,,,,,
,65.77, 2H +,1020,2430,68.4,,,,,,,,,,
,66.30, 2H +,1380,2400,61.3,,,,,,,,,,
,66.79, 2H +,1935,3150,74.6,,,,,,,,,,
,67.29, 3H +,1005,2160,59.4,,,,,,,,,,
,67.83, 3H +,1200,2490,75.0,,,,,,,,,,
,68.34, 3H +,1185,2580,77.0,,,,,,,,,,
,68.85, 3H +,1185,2700,82.8,,,,,,,,,,
,69.38, 3H +,1155,2760,83.6,,,,,,,,,,
,69.89, 3H +,1095,2820,85.9,,,,,,,,,,
,70.40, 3H +,1005,2850,85.9,,,,,,,,,,
,70.91, 3H +,930,2850,85.2,,,,,,,,,,
,71.41, 3H +,855,2880,85.2,,,,,,,,,,
,71.97, 3H +,810,2910,86.7,,,,,,,,,,
,72.48, 3H +,750,2970,95.3,,,,,,,,,,
,72.97, 3H +,720,3000,99.6,,,,,,,,,,
,73.48, 3H +,675,3030,99.6,,,,,,,,,,
,73.99, 3H +,645,3060,99.6,,,,,,,,,,
,74.51, 3H +,585,3090,99.6,,,,,,,,,,
,75.02, 3H +,540,3090,99.2,,,,,,,,,,
,75.54, 3H +,510,3120,99.2,,,,,,,,,,
,76.07, 3H +,480,3150,88.7,,,,,,,,,,
,76.58, 3H +,465,3180,71.9,,,,,,,,,,
,77.10, 3H +,1020,2910,59.4,,,,,,,,,,
,77.61, 3H +,1905,4050,93.0,,,,,,,,,,
,78.13, 4H +,1800,4470,63.7,,,,,,,,,,
,78.66, 4H -,465,2430,11.7,,,,,,,,,,
,79.17, 3H +,1425,3300,45.3,,,,,,,,,,
,79.68, 4H +,1395,3150,27.3,,,,,,,,,,
,80.19, 4H +,675,2370,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,80.70, 4H -,255,1410,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,81.21, 4H -,870,810,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,81.72, 4H -,900,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,82.23, 4H -,810,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,82.74, 4H -,750,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,83.26, 4H -,720,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,83.78, 4H -,675,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,84.31, 4H -,630,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,84.82, 4H -,600,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,85.33, 4H -,540,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,85.86, 4H -,480,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,86.37, 4H -,435,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,86.88, 4H -,405,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,87.37, 4H -,345,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,87.89, 4H -,795,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,88.40, 4H -,645,810,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,88.91, 3H -,525,810,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,89.42, 3H -,465,780,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,89.97, 3H -,255,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,90.49, 3H -,525,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,91.05, 3H -,135,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,91.59, 2H +,45,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,92.10, 2H -,135,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,92.61, 2H +,75,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,93.13, 2H +,75,750,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,93.65, 2H +,60,750,0.4,,,,,,,,,,
,94.16, 1 +,240,990,26.2,,,,,,,,,,
,94.69, 1 +,495,1320,40.6,,,,,,,,,,
,95.20, 1 +,660,1620,42.2,,,,,,,,,,
,95.75, 1 +,510,1680,44.5,,,,,,,,,,
,96.24, 1 +,735,1800,44.9,,,,,,,,,,
,96.75, 1 +,885,1830,44.9,,,,,,,,,,
,97.28, 1 +,795,1890,45.3,,,,,,,,,,
,97.79, 1 +,855,2070,53.1,,,,,,,,,,
,98.30, 2H +,780,2070,48.0,,,,,,,,,,
,98.81, 2H +,525,1830,31.6,,,,,,,,,,
,99.32, 2H +,165,1560,30.9,,,,,,,,,,
,99.85, 2H +,255,1620,26.6,,,,,,,,,,
,100.39, 2H -,60,1290,8.6,,,,,,,,,,
,100.92, 2H -,180,1110,4.7,,,,,,,,,,
,101.41, 2H -,240,1020,5.1,,,,,,,,,,
,101.94, 2H -,180,1020,6.6,,,,,,,,,,
,102.49, 2H -,0,1170,17.2,,,,,,,,,,
,102.98, 2H +,60,1200,22.3,,,,,,,,,,
,103.51, 2H +,165,1290,32.8,,,,,,,,,,
,103.99, 2H +,585,1740,47.3,,,,,,,,,,
,117.35, 3H +,345,1320,27.7,,,,,,,,,,
,117.86, 3H +,345,1320,28.1,,,,,,,,,,
,118.37, 3H +,345,1320,27.7,,,,,,,,,,
,118.89, 3H +,345,1320,27.7,,,,,,,,,,

[Odeheim]

A full scan, gives no codes.
I have had error codes on some solenoids before. Not now :S


Chassis Type: 7D - VW Transp T4
Scan: 01,02,03,08,15,17,19,25,35,45,56

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Controller: 074 906 018 AL
Component: 2,5l R5 EDC 0000AG 3906
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 02744
WV1ZZZ70Z2H116730 VWZ1Z0B1987160
No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans
Controller: 01P 927 733 CP
Component: AG4 Getriebe 01P 5061
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes
Controller: 7D0 614 111 B
Component: ABS/EDS 5.3 D00
Coding: 0273004211
Shop #: BB 24258
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Skipping Address 15-Airbags

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments
Controller: 7D0 920 802 R
Component: T4-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V01
Coding: 01111
Shop #: WSC 40786
1 Fault Found:
01179 - Incorrect Key Programming
35-00 - -

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway
Controller: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 02743
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer
Controller: 6X0 953 257
Component: IMMO 0008
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000
WV1ZZZ70Z2H116730 VWZ1Z0B1987160
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 35: Centr. Locks
Controller: 7D0 959 800 B
Component: Funksteuergerát 0001
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 02743
No fault code found.

End --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Odeheim]

When I drive it now when its cold it slips mutch less on 1-2 gear. But still no 4th gear.

[CoolAirVw]

In your data log it shows the computer commanding 4th gear but the command never changes to "4M".

Are you saying your TCC is not applying?

do you know how to interpret the computers command? I would suggest hooking vag-com up again and watching feild 7-2 and seeing if you feel a rpm change as the computer commands 3-4.

[Odeheim]

Okej. I will do that. When its on 3rd and want 4th its be like neutral. No gear at all.
But you se that it´s slips a lot even on 3rd gear.

[Odeheim]

More logfiles. No codes at all found.


Thursday,05,April,2012,19:30:51
01P 927 733 CP,,AG4 Getriebe 01P 5061,

,Group A:,'004,,,,Group B:, Not Running,,,,Group C:, Not Running
,,Bin. Bits, , ,Speed,,,,,,,,,,
,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,
Marker,STAMP,,,, km/h,STAMP,,,,,STAMP,,,,
,0.00,1010 00 , 0, D,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,0.51,0010 10 , 1H, D,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,1.04,0010 00 , 1H, D,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,1.55,0010 00 , 1H, D,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,2.06,0010 00 , 1H, D,1.0,,,,,,,,,,
,2.57,0010 00 , 1H, D,3.0,,,,,,,,,,
,3.10,0010 00 , 1H, D,6.0,,,,,,,,,,
,3.64,0010 00 , 1H, D,9.0,,,,,,,,,,
,4.16,0010 00 , 1H, D,13.0,,,,,,,,,,
,4.67,0010 00 , 1H, D,17.0,,,,,,,,,,
,5.18,0110 01 , 1H, D,22.0,,,,,,,,,,
,5.69,0110 01 , 1H, D,26.0,,,,,,,,,,
,6.22,0110 01 , 1H, D,29.0,,,,,,,,,,
,6.74,0110 01 , 1H, D,32.0,,,,,,,,,,
,7.27,0100 11 , 2H, D,35.0,,,,,,,,,,
,7.78,0000 11 , 2H, D,37.0,,,,,,,,,,
,8.34,0000 00 , 3H, D,39.0,,,,,,,,,,
,8.85,0000 00 , 3H, D,41.0,,,,,,,,,,
,9.38,0000 00 , 3H, D,44.0,,,,,,,,,,
,9.90,0000 00 , 3H, D,46.0,,,,,,,,,,
,10.43,0000 00 , 3H, D,47.0,,,,,,,,,,
,10.94,0000 00 , 3H, D,50.0,,,,,,,,,,
,11.47,0100 11 , 3H, D,51.0,,,,,,,,,,
,11.98,1100 11 , 3H, D,51.0,,,,,,,,,,
,12.51,1100 01 , 4H, D,51.0,,,,,,,,,,
,13.02,1100 01 , 4H, D,51.0,,,,,,,,,,
,13.53,1100 01 , 4H, D,51.0,,,,,,,,,,
,14.05,1100 01 , 4H, D,50.0,,,,,,,,,,
,14.56,1100 01 , 4H, D,50.0,,,,,,,,,,
,15.09,1100 01 , 4H, D,47.0,,,,,,,,,,
,15.62,1100 01 , 4H, D,44.0,,,,,,,,,,
,16.15,0000 10 , 4H, D,40.0,,,,,,,,,,
,16.69,0000 10 , 3H, D,36.0,,,,,,,,,,
,17.20,0000 00 , 3H, D,33.0,,,,,,,,,,
,17.76,0000 00 , 3H, D,29.0,,,,,,,,,,
,18.29,0000 00 , 3H, D,25.0,,,,,,,,,,
,18.80,0000 00 , 3H, D,21.0,,,,,,,,,,
,19.31,0010 11 , 3H, D,17.0,,,,,,,,,,
,19.83,0110 01 , 3H, D,14.0,,,,,,,,,,
,20.35,0110 00 , 2H, D,12.0,,,,,,,,,,
,20.88,0110 00 , 2H, D,10.0,,,,,,,,,,
,21.41,0010 10 , 2H, D,7.0,,,,,,,,,,
,21.94,0010 10 , 2H, D,5.0,,,,,,,,,,
,22.46,0010 10 , 2H, D,3.0,,,,,,,,,,
,22.97,0010 10 , 2H, D,1.0,,,,,,,,,,
,23.48,0010 10 , 1H, D,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,23.99,1010 10 , 1H, D,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,24.51,1010 00 , 0, D,0.0,,,,,,,,,,

[Odeheim]

In your data log it shows the computer commanding 4th gear but the command never changes to "4M".

Are you saying your TCC is not applying?

do you know how to interpret the computers command? I would suggest hooking vag-com up again and watching feild 7-2 and seeing if you feel a rpm change as the computer commands 3-4.

I have done that now and I dont feel any rpm change at all. Until 3rd gear is loosing and bit says 1010 and then I dont have any gear until the 3rd gear go in again.