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      04-11-2012 11:53 AM #36
      You really just keep posting to stir the pot don't you? Get out of here with your misinformation. No reason you can't run synth at 50k!
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      04-11-2012 12:17 PM #37
      man you guys are a trip,

      you didnt know 5w-30 is bad news dont seem to remember before soot times when ash was good, now syn can be used at that mileage. i dont know, but i dont like to argue and have noobs seeing the arguement and info from 1 side and other info from another side.
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      04-11-2012 12:40 PM #38
      Well you've yet to provide any sort of hard facts. You have people here telling you they've been running oils for 100k+ with no problems but you keep saying its bad. Give us some hard facts and numbers and then we'll talk. You just keep spouting out nonsense...give it a rest or you'll get banned again.
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      04-11-2012 12:42 PM #39
      not to mention the ones saying they been running XX oil for over 400k miles.. thats hard proof right there..

      if an oil is gonna cause issues in an engine, its gonna happen before it hits 400k miles..

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      04-11-2012 12:53 PM #40
      Its ok, he's now trying his hand at improperly charing an AC system: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...31822-A-C-help

      Running R134a in an R12 car but apparently never did anything to the actual system other than putting in R134a. Good job.
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      04-17-2012 09:30 PM #41
      5w-30 being oil for gas engines, and there is another oil you never use, my point is the 5w-30 isnt it recomended for a lot of gas engnes? and your never supposed to use it! by the way over 400k is when you can get your problems.
      awareness is the key
      so isnt 5w-40 for diesels in a similar category?? all those additives. the thing is being synthetic the additives may be "better", but they are still there, and do break down!! there is a way to "trouble shoot" or TRY to avoid problems with these type of oils.

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      04-17-2012 09:34 PM #42
      if its recommeded for your car you should use it, so if your going to use synthetic, 5w-40 would be best if you cannt find better

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      04-17-2012 09:37 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Rockerchick View Post
      You really just keep posting to stir the pot don't you? Get out of here with your misinformation. No reason you can't run synth at 50k!
      yes there is!!
      you guys fall short on somethings and cannt bear to listen to me
      and im not trying to stir the pot and not just saying nothing to hear myself
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      04-17-2012 09:39 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by Rockerchick View Post
      Well you've yet to provide any sort of hard facts. You have people here telling you they've been running oils for 100k+ with no problems but you keep saying its bad. Give us some hard facts and numbers and then we'll talk. You just keep spouting out nonsense...give it a rest or you'll get banned again.
      no i wont give it a rest like that and stop threatening me

      100k indeed
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      04-17-2012 09:45 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by air-cooled or diesel View Post
      no i wont give it a rest like that and stop threatening me

      100k indeed
      yes you will.. if you dont wise up, we will get the admins to take care of you.

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      04-17-2012 09:54 PM #46
      whatever!.
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      04-17-2012 10:35 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by air-cooled or diesel View Post
      if its recommeded for your car you should use it, so if your going to use synthetic, 5w-40 would be best if you cannt find better
      So earlier in the thread you say that 5w40 is bad but now you say to use it since its recommended?

      And where are your facts? Oh, that's right, you have none. And trust me, you getting banned again isn't a threat. We WILL go to the admins and get you banned again if you don't stop spreading false information.
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      04-17-2012 11:05 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Rockerchick View Post
      So earlier in the thread you say that 5w40 is bad but now you say to use it since its recommended?

      And where are your facts? Oh, that's right, you have none. And trust me, you getting banned again isn't a threat. We WILL go to the admins and get you banned again if you don't stop spreading false information.
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      04-17-2012 11:18 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by TM87 View Post
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      04-18-2012 12:15 AM #50
      if you hadnt noticed, you shut him up with that last comment..

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      04-18-2012 09:35 AM #51
      Eh, for now. He goes away for a week or so after he makes ridiculous posts, and then posts again 10 times in each thread.
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      04-18-2012 01:41 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by Rockerchick View Post
      Eh, for now. He goes away for a week or so after he makes ridiculous posts, and then posts again 10 times in each thread.
      lol, yup, ive noticed...

      kinda reminds me of a crack head..

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      04-18-2012 06:55 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
      lol, yup, ive noticed...

      kinda reminds me of a crack head..
      F U
      your the crack head, and im the one with the good advice
      and because you dont know about this possible problem and cannt comment correctly; shows something about you
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      04-18-2012 07:15 PM #54
      Well until you provide actual facts to back up what you're saying, you just look like an idiot to those of us who know better.

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      04-18-2012 07:33 PM #55
      as for the conv oil i already know im right why dont you two??? this has been a long running thing, and you dont know it?? whats wrong with you?!
      as for 5w-40 for the rest of you im not sure but these kind of oils they have had serious problems and still have problems with them. so maybe you need some thorough advice im not convinced they wont have problems with this kind of multi-weight oil. so seriously im bringing it to your all attention.
      i wont use 5w-40 syn . but 5w-30 would be better. better yet is 10w-30 syn if you can find it for a diesel app.
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      04-18-2012 08:30 PM #56
      If you are talking about conventional in a TDI, then of course you shouldn't run it in that. But its more than great for an IDI.

      And a few posts up you said 5w40 was what should be used for the TDIs. You need to stop contradicting yourself. And really, post up some HARD FACTS. Like, numbers, about why 5w40 is bad in a TDI. When there are people who have been running it for 200k, 300k, 400k without issue, I see that being a hard fact to prove.
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      04-18-2012 09:29 PM #57
      I ALREADY said this 400k is when you can get problems
      i dont want you guys tobe paranoid, but informed.
      and conv oil of that and some other grades are a no-no!!
      5w-20 is good 5w-30 conv is NOT!
      why doesnt it seem like your not reading my posts and not understanding plain english before you respond.
      you need to reread my posts previously and understand what im saying.
      also if you think 5w-30 is good to run in ANY car then this is why i bring up the similar case of 5w-40 syn. it too may be bad news. find 10w-30 syn for diesel applications.
      also like i've brought up the case of 50k breakins what are you trying to break in? if you go 50k w/o syn you may consider NOT using syn your right near the cut-off point.
      what are you trying to break in for 50k? not necessary; also...
      if your ready to go 3k w/a conventional oil your ready (more than ready ) for a syn!!
      break in schedule 1: more than 20 min of -hot run time- at about 2000rpm 2:100 mi 3:300 mi 4:500 mi 5:1000 mi. After 5 you may be ready to use syn except the cost of an early change so 6:3000 mi all 1-6 w/ a conv oil. after 6 or 7 (7: 3000 mi) your more than ready to use syn, but like i said i'm skeptical of 5w-40 (syn). it may come to light you may have problems with this oil. there is a way to kind of avoid the problem i suggested might happen. and you lose your engine if this were to possibly happen.
      also for motors that can use it im a favroite of 5w-20 castrol for #1 breakin. as i've said it before. and #2 breakin in all gears about 2/3 throttle accelerate to 2500 to about 3000 later and declerate too a few times in all gears.
      to clarify 1 thing if #1 break in and your engine cannt handle 5w-20 then you can use 5w-30 with no prob. 20-40 min of hot run time wont cause a problem. that is if your engine can work with this viscosity of oil (5w-30)
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      04-18-2012 09:39 PM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by Rockerchick View Post
      So earlier in the thread you say that 5w40 is bad but now you say to use it since its recommended?

      And where are your facts? Oh, that's right, you have none. And trust me, you getting banned again isn't a threat. We WILL go to the admins and get you banned again if you don't stop spreading false information.
      Quote Originally Posted by Rockerchick View Post
      If you are talking about conventional in a TDI, then of course you shouldn't run it in that. But its more than great for an IDI.

      And a few posts up you said 5w40 was what should be used for the TDIs. You need to stop contradicting yourself. And really, post up some HARD FACTS. Like, numbers, about why 5w40 is bad in a TDI. When there are people who have been running it for 200k, 300k, 400k without issue, I see that being a hard fact to prove.
      im not contradicting myself!! simply if your engine requires that kind of viscosity and you are running a synthetic then you will need to run that kind of oil. but 5w-30 is better if your engine can handle it. if not,, well im not going to tell you to run something wrong, so if your running syn then use that oil if required. kind of go with the flow
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      04-18-2012 09:52 PM #59
      Well we are talking about TDIs here. And 5w40 is recommended.

      And if its such a bad weight oil, why is it that pretty much any diesel rated synth is 5w40?

      You really don't make any sense whatsoever.

      Still waiting on those facts...
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      04-18-2012 10:13 PM #60
      maybe one day youll figure it out.
      no some oils dont make sense neither does taking out the sulfur of diesel fuel.
      dont use 5w-30 in any car, gas or otherwise (conv)
      using 15w rotella sounds MUCH better
      also what about the story i heard, go longer than 3000 miles for an oil change (conv oils), that doesnt even make ANY sense either, so put 1+1+1 together and you get a number (3), but not for many things; it can be so abstract. what im saying is not everything makes sense.
      and your trying to fight me soo much your a real jerk sometimes, (and worse) ,i was real wrong about soot; ok, but in times past pre-soot times the black in oil was real good as i posted or that other thread. but anyway, maybe youll figure it out, like bye. threads looks dead, unless you have something constructive to say... which i doubt, you could try.??
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      04-18-2012 10:28 PM #61
      What are you even talking about? I never said anything about using 5w30 in a car. I said 5w40 synth, which is what is recommended for the TDI, which is the motor in question.

      I hope if you are running 15w40 conv. its not in a TDI. Its fine for an IDI. Which has also been said.

      I'm not trying to "fight" you. I'm trying to make sure accurate information is out there. You keep going back and forth on what oil is right to use, according to you, but again, no facts to back it up. I like that "conveniently" its that at 400k where people are supposedly having problems running 5w40...honestly at that mileage you are probably about ready for a rebuild anyway. But I think there are people with higher mileage than that doing just fine on 5w40.

      And what in the world are you talking about with change intervals? I follow 5k intervals no matter the oil. The 3k interval was set years and years ago when oil quality wasn't near what it was today. 3k intervals made sense. Doesn't anymore. Even conventional you can go 5k on a change.

      And please, call me all the names you want. If I'm being a jerk "and worse" for providing correct information, then so be it. But I'm going to report you to the admin...you picked the wrong chick to mess with. I don't just roll over like that.
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      04-18-2012 10:32 PM #62
      what are you reporting me for now huh?huh?huh? what did i say now huh?huh?huh? you dont roll over like that;; whatever roll over or not; this i got to see
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      04-18-2012 10:38 PM #63
      400k about the only thing you need is a bottom end, a little before, im getting 800+ for full rebuilds soo anyway;;; oh is it something i said again??? report me for this right; huh??huh??huh??? what didi say now youll report me for now??? huh??huh??huh?? roll over or not i dont even care

      your top end doesnt even need to be done near 400, oh did i say something wrong now;; again, ur going to report me again?? huh??huh?? etc... really?
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      04-18-2012 10:49 PM #64
      and come to think of it unless your going to clean out every oil passage at your rebuild the problem may linger and grow sooo.(at 400k)
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      04-18-2012 11:04 PM #65
      But what is this "problem" you speak of running 5w40 synth in a TDI? IT IS WHAT IS RECOMMENDED FOR THE ENGINE!

      And you're getting reported for spreading 100% false information. Where are your facts? So far the only thing you have to offer is that "it is because I say it is" and that is nowhere near good enough. You've been proven wrong before. And you've been banned for this before.

      I dare you to go onto TDIClub and say that 5w40 is bad for a TDI. And go ahead to vwdiesel.net and spew your venom as well. I dare you.

      Oh, and you say "you two". If you read through this thread you'll see its not just Glegor and myself who disagree with you. You are the only one drinking that kool-aid you found.
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      04-18-2012 11:22 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by Rockerchick View Post
      But what is this "problem" you speak of running 5w40 synth in a TDI? IT IS WHAT IS RECOMMENDED FOR THE ENGINE!

      And you're getting reported for spreading 100% false information. Where are your facts? So far the only thing you have to offer is that "it is because I say it is" and that is nowhere near good enough. You've been proven wrong before. And you've been banned for this before.

      I dare you to go onto TDIClub and say that 5w40 is bad for a TDI. And go ahead to vwdiesel.net and spew your venom as well. I dare you.

      Oh, and you say "you two". If you read through this thread you'll see its not just Glegor and myself who disagree with you. You are the only one drinking that kool-aid you found.
      thats some pretty hard core kool-aid hes drinking..

      cause this guy is INSANE..

      i, too, am reporting you to a moderator for spreading false information..

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      04-18-2012 11:23 PM #67
      And Jess, if this guy was a member over in VWdiesel.net, i know personally of a few people that would ABUSE their admin powers just for him..



      go on dude, register over at vwdiesel.net.. do it, i dare you!

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      04-19-2012 11:42 AM #68
      its Possible im right, i wont use the stuff so i'll never know

      to clarify one thing if you car (gas) recomends 5w-30 oil you may consider using if esp for warranty purposes.
      and the rockerchiK will respond 'dont get it mixed up', nag,nag. i get enough nagging with out u all
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      why??more than 1 wire to shut her off?? a blasphemy!

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      04-19-2012 11:43 AM #69
      stigmas can be hard to break, on a similar note ignorance can be the root of problems.
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      why??more than 1 wire to shut her off?? a blasphemy!

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      04-19-2012 01:05 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by air-cooled or diesel View Post
      stigmas can be hard to break, on a similar note ignorance can be the root of problems.
      Pot, meet kettle...

      And my gas car recommends 5w40 as well though I don't see what that has to do with anything. Actually let me rephrase that. VW says to use an oil that meets their requirements. On a gas car that would be 5w40 or 0w40. Diesel is 5w40 or 5w30. But only certain brands of each. I would never put an oil in that isn't recommended.

      I feel like you don't understand the difference between a TDI and an IDI with all of your talk of sytnth vs conv when this thread is about a TDI engine which shouldn't touch conv.

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