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      03-20-2012 06:39 PM #26
      Too late for first start-up. Motor had rotella 15-40w in it. lots of idle time on it with the 15-40. I just did an oil change to 10-30 RotellaT conventional with a new mann filter this past weekend and the car currently has 3kms on it. Im going to keep the 10-30 rotella for the first few thousand kms with oil changes as well before I switch to either 15-40 conv or syn

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      03-20-2012 07:16 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by trips_b View Post
      Too late for first start-up. Motor had rotella 15-40w in it. lots of idle time on it with the 15-40. I just did an oil change to 10-30 RotellaT conventional with a new mann filter this past weekend and the car currently has 3kms on it. Im going to keep the 10-30 rotella for the first few thousand kms with oil changes as well before I switch to either 15-40 conv or syn
      i wouldnt go to synthetc until around 50k miles.. that way you know everything is finished breaking in..

    3. 03-23-2012 07:39 AM #28
      Wasn't the topic of this thread what oil to use in a TDI and not a IDI?

      No regular or 5W-20 oil belongs in a TDI period. Even XW-30 oil is too light IMO. Forget it on a PD. 5W-20 would kill a PD cam in no time at all.

      Any good synthetic 5W-40 or 0W-40 HDDO is good in all TDIs made prior to 2009.

    4. 03-23-2012 08:44 AM #29
      There is a company called Brad Penn that is doing oils like they used to with real PA crude. I don't think it would work in the TDI's but the IDI it would work well. It has the ZDDP in it that oils on the shelf used to have. Now besides your specialty oils, most off the shelf stuff has very little in it. They stopped getting the crude from PA and went to Saudi for it. Their crude doesn't have it in there.

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      03-23-2012 09:11 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by air-cooled or diesel View Post
      --Among-- other things doesnt these 'type of oils' tend to promote a buildup of deposits in the internals??? you guys better check it out better; i think.

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      Should I show you the internals of my almost 400,000 mile ALH running nothing but 5w40 full syn?

      Deposits on the internals, lol!!!!! Where do you come up with this stuff...

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      03-24-2012 01:54 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by turbocharged798 View Post
      Wasn't the topic of this thread what oil to use in a TDI and not a IDI?

      No regular or 5W-20 oil belongs in a TDI period. Even XW-30 oil is too light IMO. Forget it on a PD. 5W-20 would kill a PD cam in no time at all.
      i was making a point; generalizing. not being too specific
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      03-24-2012 01:55 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
      i wouldnt go to synthetc until around 50k miles.. that way you know everything is finished breaking in..
      more like 3k-5k miles.
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      03-24-2012 02:15 PM #33
      In reality any opinions about how an oil works in a given engine, driven in a given way, are anecdotal...UOAs tell the best story...and the more of them we have done the more they reveal.

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      03-24-2012 05:21 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by air-cooled or diesel View Post
      more like 3k-5k miles.
      god i wish i knew as much as you.. you have got to be the smartest man alive..

      but no, a diesel engine isnt even CLOSE to broken in in 5000 miles, not even close.. sometimes it takes up to 50k miles for proper break in to happen!

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      04-11-2012 11:45 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
      i wouldnt go to synthetc until around 50k miles.. that way you know everything is finished breaking in..
      Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
      god i wish i knew as much as you.. you have got to be the smartest man alive..

      but no, a diesel engine isnt even CLOSE to broken in in 5000 miles, not even close.. sometimes it takes up to 50k miles for proper break in to happen!
      if you go 50k with out synthetic your right about the cut off where you'd never use syn anyway!
      i've never had a problem w/my break in regiment.
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      04-11-2012 11:53 AM #36
      You really just keep posting to stir the pot don't you? Get out of here with your misinformation. No reason you can't run synth at 50k!
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      04-11-2012 12:17 PM #37
      man you guys are a trip,

      you didnt know 5w-30 is bad news dont seem to remember before soot times when ash was good, now syn can be used at that mileage. i dont know, but i dont like to argue and have noobs seeing the arguement and info from 1 side and other info from another side.
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      04-11-2012 12:40 PM #38
      Well you've yet to provide any sort of hard facts. You have people here telling you they've been running oils for 100k+ with no problems but you keep saying its bad. Give us some hard facts and numbers and then we'll talk. You just keep spouting out nonsense...give it a rest or you'll get banned again.
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      04-11-2012 12:42 PM #39
      not to mention the ones saying they been running XX oil for over 400k miles.. thats hard proof right there..

      if an oil is gonna cause issues in an engine, its gonna happen before it hits 400k miles..

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      04-11-2012 12:53 PM #40
      Its ok, he's now trying his hand at improperly charing an AC system: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...31822-A-C-help

      Running R134a in an R12 car but apparently never did anything to the actual system other than putting in R134a. Good job.
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      04-17-2012 09:30 PM #41
      5w-30 being oil for gas engines, and there is another oil you never use, my point is the 5w-30 isnt it recomended for a lot of gas engnes? and your never supposed to use it! by the way over 400k is when you can get your problems.
      awareness is the key
      so isnt 5w-40 for diesels in a similar category?? all those additives. the thing is being synthetic the additives may be "better", but they are still there, and do break down!! there is a way to "trouble shoot" or TRY to avoid problems with these type of oils.

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      04-17-2012 09:34 PM #42
      if its recommeded for your car you should use it, so if your going to use synthetic, 5w-40 would be best if you cannt find better

      oh by the way
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      04-17-2012 09:37 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Rockerchick View Post
      You really just keep posting to stir the pot don't you? Get out of here with your misinformation. No reason you can't run synth at 50k!
      yes there is!!
      you guys fall short on somethings and cannt bear to listen to me
      and im not trying to stir the pot and not just saying nothing to hear myself
      Last edited by air-cooled or diesel; 04-17-2012 at 09:40 PM.
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      04-17-2012 09:39 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by Rockerchick View Post
      Well you've yet to provide any sort of hard facts. You have people here telling you they've been running oils for 100k+ with no problems but you keep saying its bad. Give us some hard facts and numbers and then we'll talk. You just keep spouting out nonsense...give it a rest or you'll get banned again.
      no i wont give it a rest like that and stop threatening me

      100k indeed
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      04-17-2012 09:45 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by air-cooled or diesel View Post
      no i wont give it a rest like that and stop threatening me

      100k indeed
      yes you will.. if you dont wise up, we will get the admins to take care of you.

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      04-17-2012 09:54 PM #46
      whatever!.
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      04-17-2012 10:35 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by air-cooled or diesel View Post
      if its recommeded for your car you should use it, so if your going to use synthetic, 5w-40 would be best if you cannt find better
      So earlier in the thread you say that 5w40 is bad but now you say to use it since its recommended?

      And where are your facts? Oh, that's right, you have none. And trust me, you getting banned again isn't a threat. We WILL go to the admins and get you banned again if you don't stop spreading false information.
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      04-17-2012 11:05 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Rockerchick View Post
      So earlier in the thread you say that 5w40 is bad but now you say to use it since its recommended?

      And where are your facts? Oh, that's right, you have none. And trust me, you getting banned again isn't a threat. We WILL go to the admins and get you banned again if you don't stop spreading false information.
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      04-17-2012 11:18 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by TM87 View Post
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      04-18-2012 12:15 AM #50
      if you hadnt noticed, you shut him up with that last comment..

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