Oil?

[MXTHOR3]

[pho]

he smoked a REALLY GOOD batch of crack last night..

God times.

[Glegor]

lmfao...

the mods really dont pay attention anymore!!

[LoveDiesel]

I use straight 40 moble 1 full synthetic every 5k..... not the right oil?

[turbocharged798]

I use straight 40 moble 1 full synthetic every 5k..... not the right oil?

Not at all. Straight 40= way too thick in the winter, not diesel rated, and wrong change interval.

[MXTHOR3]

I use straight 40 moble 1 full synthetic every 5k..... not the right oil?

Mobil 1 TDT 5w40 or Rotella T6 5w40.. Both available at any Walmart..

Perfect oils for your car.

Also, oil/filter every 10k or 6 months, whichever comes first.

[vw tdi guy]

Mobil 1 TDT 5w40 or Rotella T6 5w40.. Both available at any Walmart..

Perfect oils for your car.

Also, oil/filter every 10k or 6 months, whichever comes first.

I see no reason to change oil every 6 months if you have not hit 10k. Seems waste full the oil is not going bad in 6 months.

[Rockerchick]

6 months is a bit much. I do once a year if I don't hit the mileage mark in that time.

[fastinradford]

5w40 pentosin 505.00/505.01 syn
10k mi/1yr

[vwjettatdi123]

Rotella 5w40 is great i am useing on my jetta with 300000k + miles ,,and you may like this tool i got on ebay pk710 funnel ,make a job much faster,and no spills http://youtu.be/j0dK697diHo

[theman53]

I have been using Scheaffer's 9000 in the 5w-40. For me better and cheaper than Rotella. Comes with free oil analysis too.

[pho]

I see no reason to change oil every 6 months if you have not hit 10k. Seems waste full the oil is not going bad in 6 months.

I somewhat understand, but, please explain your logic.

[rdezsofi]

Wow....10,000 on oil? I would never do that.

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[Rockerchick]

That's the rule of thumb over at TDIClub...they get mad if you say you change your oil more often than 10k

[rdezsofi]

You know....our diesel trucks we use at work, Cat engines, we go 12,500 miles. But those engines max out at 2000 rpm, hold 12 gallons of oil and have a filtration system many times better than any automotive one. The logic on the TDI's is rediculous imho. If a car has a better quality paint job....the same logic would dictate you only wash the dirt off once a year

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[MXTHOR3]

My OCI's in the old Jetta were around 16,000 miles.. No issues when using a Group IV PAO full synthetic..

360,000 miles on that car when I retired it, engine was still purring like a kitten.

[Rockerchick]

All of our cars we follow once a year or 5k, whichever comes first. Did this on my 2.0 Beetle, do this with my GTI, hubby's TDI, and his Accord (though that car had a "service engine soon" light come on every 5k to remind you ). We're still breaking in the TD though so OCIs are just now getting regular again. But that will be the same. We also keep an eye out on sales on oil at Autozone, etc. and stock up.

[MXTHOR3]

I can see why people are telling you that you're wasting $$$ doing the oil every 5K on the TDI.

Why not get a OA done with Blackstone?

[Rockerchick]

It has a lot of city driving on it. And we are planning on running biod eventually on it. Its our money and what we choose to do. Oil and filters aren't that expensive, especially if you grab it all on a deal like we try to do. We don't really put a ton of miles on our cars. It usually works out to be around that 5k per year anyway, especially now with 3 cars in the fleet, and we're not going 2 years on an oil change.

I have no problem with someone saying "you know you could go longer" if they just drop it after someone says that they want to do shorter OCIs. But TDIClub goes nuts and pretty much verbally attacks anyone who does. They also claim that the second 5k is somehow better oil...?

[pho]

I can see why people are telling you that you're wasting $$$ doing the oil every 5K on the TDI.

So, Rotella, Delo, or Delvac??? Whats the best diesel engine oil?

[Glegor]

So, Rotella, Delo, or Delvac??? Whats the best diesel engine oil?

you cant really go wrong with any of those oils..

ive got valvoline in mine right now. i almost NEVER run the same oil in my diesel twice in a row.. and so far, its not picky as to what i dump in it..

[Rockerchick]

We run Rotella in both diesels. They seem to do well on it. And you can get gallon jugs of it pretty readily.

[pho]

We run Rotella in both diesels. They seem to do well on it. And you can get gallon jugs of it pretty readily.

I also run Rotella, from Wallymart.

[air-cooled or diesel]

i'm not trying to dig up old bones or to cause an argument, only trying to clarify my point.
1st if your car calls for a specific oil; use it
there has been problems with certain multi-weight oils such as 5w-30 conv. and others too, my point is these extreme difference multi-weight oils can cause problems. the thing is alot of people only have new cars for 3 years, and also alot of people have their new cars for 5-7 years, in these cases the oil most likely wont be a problem(5-7 years can have problems, but not the same ratio of chance as more years). the real problem is about the time for first rebuild, and second rebuild even more chance. oils such as 5w-30 and 10w-40 have high incedence of oil passage blockage(conv). one of the reasons may be rebuilding you clean some (also alot) of the internals, there by disturbing the setiment left behind by these oils, this setiment gets around and like a clogging artery causes restriction/blockage in oil passages. what you need to do is flush every corner of the block, oil passages too. this should solve problem (expensive too). if your not going to have car for oh.. about 400k miles you most likely wont encounter problem.
the point is I DO KNOW this for a fact, if you never heard of this; this is your wake up call, i've informed you. what im also trying to say is if these problems have occured in conv oils they most likely occur in syn oils too, these extreme multi-weight oils (such as 5w-40 and for gas 5w-50 and all similar oils) are most likely going to be weaker oils.
your probably not going to find this info easily, for a few reasons, but im letting you know this is a fact (these oils have had problems). since no one appears aware of this, if was the first time you have heard of this. well i said prev. in this post, i made you aware of this.
if your car calls for a certain/specific oil; use it.
my point is not 100% solid for these new syn oils (such as 5w-40 and others) but it is for conv oils, for instance if you use 5w-30 IT CAN clogg your arterys (eventually). and I DO figure its no different for syn oils. and i'll bet few people have this info. oh its fine stuff to use, they will say(etc), i'll bet its bunk and you cannt find the info reaily.

[Glegor]

i'm not trying to dig up old bones or to cause an argument, only trying to clarify my point.
1st if your car calls for a specific oil; use it
there has been problems with certain multi-weight oils such as 5w-30 conv. and others too, my point is these extreme difference multi-weight oils can cause problems. the thing is alot of people only have new cars for 3 years, and also alot of people have their new cars for 5-7 years, in these cases the oil most likely wont be a problem(5-7 years can have problems, but not the same ratio of chance as more years). the real problem is about the time for first rebuild, and second rebuild even more chance. oils such as 5w-30 and 10w-40 have high incedence of oil passage blockage(conv). one of the reasons may be rebuilding you clean some (also alot) of the internals, there by disturbing the setiment left behind by these oils, this setiment gets around and like a clogging artery causes restriction/blockage in oil passages. what you need to do is flush every corner of the block, oil passages too. this should solve problem (expensive too). if your not going to have car for oh.. about 400k miles you most likely wont encounter problem.
the point is I DO KNOW this for a fact, if you never heard of this; this is your wake up call, i've informed you. what im also trying to say is if these problems have occured in conv oils they most likely occur in syn oils too, these extreme multi-weight oils (such as 5w-40 and for gas 5w-50 and all similar oils) are most likely going to be weaker oils.
your probably not going to find this info easily, for a few reasons, but im letting you know this is a fact (these oils have had problems). since no one appears aware of this, if was the first time you have heard of this. well i said prev. in this post, i made you aware of this.
if your car calls for a certain/specific oil; use it.
my point is not 100% solid for these new syn oils (such as 5w-40 and others) but it is for conv oils, for instance if you use 5w-30 IT CAN clogg your arterys (eventually). and I DO figure its no different for syn oils. and i'll bet few people have this info. oh its fine stuff to use, they will say(etc), i'll bet its bunk and you cannt find the info reaily.

just stop... you wont win.

[rdezsofi]

Another debate on oil......wow;-)

If I may chime in......I believe every situation varies, as to what is the best oil. Period. Even in the same make and model.

At my work.......trucks pulling triple trailers at 105,500 lbs.....15w40 Rotella non synthetic. Changed at 15,000 miles. Roughly 900,000 miles to rebuild. City route trucks, same but synthetic. 190,000-220,000 to rebuild. Harsher conditions, all stop and go, lot of idling.

If you change oil every 3000, it probably doesn't matter....dino oil vs synthetic, except maybe for turbo life. We run syn in the city trucks just for that purpose. 30 start and stop cycles a day on average. Our cars have closer tolerances, and benefit from the 5wt.....even helps mileage.

Best thing is an extra bypass filter down to less than 5 microns...

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[Glegor]

Another debate on oil......wow;-)

If I may chime in......I believe every situation varies, as to what is the best oil. Period. Even in the same make and model.

At my work.......trucks pulling triple trailers at 105,500 lbs.....15w40 Rotella non synthetic. Changed at 15,000 miles. Roughly 900,000 miles to rebuild. City route trucks, same but synthetic. 190,000-220,000 to rebuild. Harsher conditions, all stop and go, lot of idling.

If you change oil every 3000, it probably doesn't matter....dino oil vs synthetic, except maybe for turbo life. We run syn in the city trucks just for that purpose. 30 start and stop cycles a day on average. Our cars have closer tolerances, and benefit from the 5wt.....even helps mileage.

Best thing is an extra bypass filter down to less than 5 microns...

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really need to install a Frantz on my Jetta.. it WEARS OUT dino oil in ~3k miles..

also need an oil cooler as well.. i have a n/a long block, with a big VNT hanging off the back of it.

[air-cooled or diesel]

Another debate on oil......wow;-)

If I may chime in......I believe every situation varies, as to what is the best oil. Period. Even in the same make and model.

At my work.......trucks pulling triple trailers at 105,500 lbs.....15w40 Rotella non synthetic. Changed at 15,000 miles. Roughly 900,000 miles to rebuild. City route trucks, same but synthetic. 190,000-220,000 to rebuild. Harsher conditions, all stop and go, lot of idling.

If you change oil every 3000, it probably doesn't matter....dino oil vs synthetic, except maybe for turbo life. We run syn in the city trucks just for that purpose. 30 start and stop cycles a day on average. Our cars have closer tolerances, and benefit from the 5wt.....even helps mileage.

Best thing is an extra bypass filter down to less than 5 microns...

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no debate, 3000k oil change (and probably even sooner DOES cause probs.), 5w-30 and other oils like it (dino) do have this problem. so to make yous aware of this, and syn is bound to have the same characteristics. it is known 5w-20 conv has no incidences of this problem, 5w-30 conv does. just letting you know...
5w-30 does have some better characteristics than 5w-20 i know this, but thats its drawback, as i said^^.

[air-cooled or diesel]

just stop... you wont win.

just cause you hold 1 or 3 things against me?? whatever guy
feels like an echo chamber here and this (i intend is the last of it).
what i said is a fact and no one here has heard of it(yea dont even start on that) im surprised, cause its the first thing my instructor pointed out to the class on oil; back then.

[MXTHOR3]

Gotta love oil topics, lol!

[rdezsofi]

OMG. Sometimes all you can do is shake your head and wonder ;-)

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