FS: 2 020 Transmissions: 16v 2Y & 8v AUG Unknown Condition In E. PA

[PunchTheFish]

2Y SOLD! AUG No Longer Available.

I have one 2Y 16v trans, from a Scirocco, and one Mk2 8v AUG trans available. Both transmissions are in unknown condition. I was told 2nd and 3rd might grind in the 2Y. The AUG feels like it has some differential play. Not sure of any other damage to the AUG. Trans casings are good on both.

Asking $50 each, picked up in Zionsville, PA 18092. Prefer not shipping, but will at buyers expense.
I will post pictures upon request.

[roccodingo]

Hi Zack,

PM sent

cheers,
Grant

[PunchTheFish]

Hi Zack,

PM sent

cheers,
Grant

Thanks Grant, PM replied!

[roccodingo]

Paypal sent for 2Y tranny.

thanks Zach.

Grant

[PunchTheFish]

Paypal sent for 2Y tranny.

thanks Zach.

Grant

Thanks Grant!

[Broke]

2Y SOLD!

Ruddy top notch job packing that AGB, I was well impressed.

It made it here and felt just as solid as a rock, no trans movement inside the packaging, and that is key.
Nice heavy corrugate for the outer box, you filled the gaps with stacks of corrugate and all... nice one.
Not only did you properly bag it for leakage, you double bagged it, and in opposite directions of each other. I noticed

Anyway, bump for your AUG sale... if you were closer to Columbus, OH I'd snatch it up but at $4/gal. in a F150, I can't do it

[PunchTheFish]

Ruddy top notch job packing that AGB, I was well impressed.

It made it here and felt just as solid as a rock, no trans movement inside the packaging, and that is key.
Nice heavy corrugate for the outer box, you filled the gaps with stacks of corrugate and all... nice one.
Not only did you properly bag it for leakage, you double bagged it, and in opposite directions of each other. I noticed

Anyway, bump for your AUG sale... if you were closer to Columbus, OH I'd snatch it up but at $4/gal. in a F150, I can't do it

That's great, thank you very much for the compliment! I really appreciate it!

[PunchTheFish]

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[PunchTheFish]

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[MacGruber]

What did the shipped transmission weigh?
USPS Parcel Post rates: Reasonable - 24x20x20, High: 24x24x24. How big of a box?

The greedy local self service yard [EDIT: I thought] just increased the transmission price by 150% is why asking.

[PunchTheFish]

What did the shipped transmission weigh?
USPS Parcel Post rates: Reasonable - 24x20x20, High: 24x24x24. How big of a box?

The greedy local self service yard just increased the transmission price by 150% is why asking.

Packaged, I believe it weighed 75 lbs. I think it's too heavy to ship with USPS, so I used FedEx Ground. Dimensions were something like 20" x 20" x 18".

[PunchTheFish]

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[Broke]

Packaged, I believe it weighed 75 lbs. I think it's too heavy to ship with USPS, so I used FedEx Ground. Dimensions were something like 20" x 20" x 18".

75 pounds on the label.
Box is 14x18x18
USPS stops at 70lbs, you can't ship a trans USPS, it has to be FedEx or UPS.

[MacGruber]

I was wrong about the price increase, the staff now quotes the total price including the core and the 12% in taxes and state fees.


The transmission for sale, what exactly is the "differential play"?

[PunchTheFish]

75 pounds on the label.
Box is 14x18x18
USPS stops at 70lbs, you can't ship a trans USPS, it has to be FedEx or UPS.

Excellent, thank you!

I was wrong about the price increase, the staff now quotes the total price including the core and the 12% in taxes and state fees.


The transmission for sale, what exactly is the "differential play"?

The axle flanges felt wobbly, when turning them. They didn't seem tight, like they should be. Diff bearings maybe?

[MacGruber]

I had problems with the flanges after driving with shot motor mounts. And then the driver side output bearing.

At the threads in the shaft end, try using a long bolt like a starter bolt to check if the shaft moves at all.

Whoever buys it would probably replace the drive flange seals, right?

[PunchTheFish]

I had problems with the flanges after driving with shot motor mounts. And then the driver side output bearing.

At the threads in the shaft end, try using a long bolt like a starter bolt to check if the shaft moves at all.

Whoever buys it would probably replace the drive flange seals, right?

Ahhh yes, good thinking. I'll check for play, and get back to you. Yes, I would imagine the drive flange seals would need to be replaced.

Edit: Found a good deal of side to side play in the axle flanges, but the diff does not move the entire amount the flanges do. Also found the shaft ends are not threaded, like I'm used to seeing. There is a small hole at the end of each, but it's not threaded.

[MacGruber]

That little hole I believe is actually threaded. Used to hold the drive flange compressing the large spring behind it while prying out the retaining clip. Not that much force needed.

The older drive flanges could end up with a wobble due to spline clearance - no need for larger threads for a tool to press them on. I have replaced mine at least once.

If the wobble is just from worn drive flanges, that saves 3 pounds of shipping then.

[PunchTheFish]

That little hole I believe is actually threaded. Used to hold the drive flange compressing the large spring behind it while prying out the retaining clip. Not that much force needed.

The older drive flanges could end up with a wobble due to spline clearance - no need for larger threads for a tool to press them on. I have replaced mine at least once.

If the wobble is just from worn drive flanges, that saves 3 pounds of shipping then.

Oh that could be, I didn't actually check if it was; just noticed it was completely different than the type I was used to. The drive flanges appear to be good. You can actually see the whole diff moving, when moving the flanges.

[MacGruber]

My Bentley shows the larger 10mm tap for the VW flange installer. This shows a 1988 16v 9A flange being pulled - actually the large spring behind the flange being compressed so the circlip can be removed.(from bronson75thread)


This shows the Quaife LSD Differential VW Golf II 8v Fits type 020 gearbox with 109mm ring gear QDF1R ecstuning:

[MacGruber]

Now I am not sure if the very small center hole is tapped or not, after reading this from a subdriven post by Broke http://forums.subdriven.com/showthre...diff-or-80-kit:

Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy View Post
Is there a way of telling whether an 020 4k transmission has an actual diff as opposed to a 80% limited slip kit without having to tear into it?

If you remove one axle and look inside the flange, you can see if it has an 80% kit installed. Look for a center cap seal held in with an allen head bolt.

A 40% can't can't be seen without taking the axle flange off.

A Quaife can be spotted once the center cap is removed by looking for the non-threaded end of the stub axle. The Peloquin LSD and stock VW diff uses a stub axle with a M10x1.50 threaded hole in the end of it, the Quaife doesn't.

Other than that, if the trans is installed, you can put one wheel on pavement and one on grass and nail it, if the grassy tire sits and spins it doesn't have a LSD.

In the air, a LSD will act like an open stock diff, the flanges can be spun opposite directions as there will be no preload to make the diff lock up.
At the same time some stock VW diffs are tight, some loose, differences in axles and dragging brakes and so on can skew the results, but some will spin both wheels the same direction when spinning one wheel by hand, some spin the other wheel the other direction, etc...

The grass/pavement test tells you if one wheel slips or not.... but to find out exactly what it inside you pretty much have to start taking things apart.

Oh, the Wavetrac also uses threaded stub axles...

[PunchTheFish]

Wow, thank you very much for that info. Appears this AUG actually has the Quaife installed!

[MacGruber]

Are you selling the AUG transmission with worn output bearings and a Quaife differential for $50 with shipping available?

I will post pictures upon request.

As far as I know the only bad effect of the bearing play is the oil seal will leak so its always 1/4" low.

[PunchTheFish]

Are you selling the AUG transmission with worn output bearings and a Quaife differential for $50 with shipping available?



As far as I know the only bad effect of the bearing play is the oil seal will leak so its always 1/4" low.

Sorry, I should have updated this thread. I have disassembled the AUG, and have sold the diff. I appreciate the info you (and others) gave regarding the diff