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    Thread: Official Firearm Dope Shiz

    1. 04-17-2012 09:43 AM #51
      it would have to be gas or piston operated.

      but it looks like the bolt carrier group was too big to fit a standard charging handle so they made it a side charger.

      bet its a blast to shoot... literally.

      after a bit of reading, gas pressures aren't much higher then 5.56. but volume is probably imense. if they built that rifle right(which i'm sure they did or at least hope for that price) the dwell time is correct, a heavy buffer and spring is used it should be fine. the bolt face takes all the abuse anyway.
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      04-17-2012 12:05 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post




      Beretta ARX-160...I can't wait for these to come stateside.
      those look nice I'm just afraid to ask how much....
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    3. 04-17-2012 05:24 PM #53
      When they come stateside (maybe next year) in 5.56 trim, I'll be down for getting one...IF...they're under say $1750-1850 or so. If they launch them into the stratosphere like $2300+ then I won't.

    4. 04-17-2012 06:50 PM #54
      Honestly, other than the massive market of mods/stuff available, I could not in good conscience buy a new AR unless I simply had to have one, and couldn't afford a SCAR etc.

      The ACR has been shockingly mediocre thus far (reviews all over the board, most of them not so good).

      There are already a few companies who have released a handful of modifications for the SCAR which fix some of its weak points (metal hinge to replace the plastic stuff on the stock etc.). That said, I don't think the SCAR or the ACR are anywhere near as advanced as the Beretta design. None of the polymer guns have really been break-throughs, but the Beretta is probably closest.

      So, hoping it gets good reviews (it's being fielded in Afghanistan but I can't find reviews from the Italians using it). I'll even retire my AK's if its a solid rifle. Then again, they could come in and blow people out of the water with a $2500+ price tag.

    5. 04-18-2012 05:56 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post
      When they come stateside (maybe next year) in 5.56 trim, I'll be down for getting one...IF...they're under say $1750-1850 or so. If they launch them into the stratosphere like $2300+ then I won't.
      So there could be a 7.62 trim someday?
      SCORE!

    6. 04-18-2012 06:32 PM #56
      I doubt it. They have a lookalike .22LR model which should be out sometime (it has about 60% of the features and shares no real components I don't believe). I don't think they've mentioned a 7.62 model.

      I don't really care for Nutnfancy, but here is a review which covers most of it...



      (go to about 12 mins. in)

    7. 04-18-2012 06:42 PM #57
      EDIT: In the review he states "well" under $2000 MSRP, which pretty much seals the deal for me. I'll definitely own one.

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      04-18-2012 09:32 PM #58
      That Beretta looks nice.
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    9. 04-18-2012 11:39 PM #59
      I think it's pretty f_cking ugly.

      But from everything I've seen, it's a legitimate "next generation rifle". It's what I think the ACR/SCAR should have been, instead of piston guns built around AR controls.

      I look at an ACR or SCAR and see a piston gun, side-charging handle, with a folding stock ----already have that in my AK. The Beretta looks like a nice, lightweight option, more of what I had hoped the ACR would have turned into. We'll see. But if it is sub $2K, I'm definitely in (I have more than that in my AK's).

      I'll slowly stock pile a few AR magazines here and there and hope it comes out in the next year or two.

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      04-19-2012 07:50 AM #60
      Will it accept PMAGs?
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    11. 04-19-2012 08:55 AM #61
      Takes standard AR magazines, so it'll likely take PMAGs, and if not, then EMags, Troy's new magazines, or Lancer magazines etc.

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      04-19-2012 10:22 AM #62
      How are the Troy and Lancer mags?

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      04-19-2012 03:18 PM #63

      A PSL carbine (7.62x54R) with AK style stock and finished in 'Russian Red'. I believe the stock is Ironwood designs.


      Shuff's Parkerizing Mini-G with Mag-Feed conversion. I have decided this will be my next rifle. Garand with .308 barrel and takes M1A/M14 mags; sure there is the M1A Scout, but this is pure Americana.


      Shuff's Mini-G again; this one is still in 30-.06 and has a en bloc clip pouch on the stock. The Mini-G can be had in 30-.06 and .308.

      Mr. Shufflin is great to communicate with and answered all of my questions promptly and very in-depth. You can either send him your own Garand for conversion or order a factory-built one. Also, CMP has Garands with .308 Criterion barrels for $995 and have block to not allow 30-.06 to chamber; Mag-feed conversions start at $450. Very tempting right now to finish up FFL03 and CMP paperwork.

      ETA: I'm in no way associated with Shuff's Parkerizing; I just discovered his services and rifles and communicated with him a bit and wanted to let others know.
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    14. 04-19-2012 03:22 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by HookedOn16v View Post
      How are the Troy and Lancer mags?
      Both are good to go from what I've seen. People seem to love the Lancers.

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      04-19-2012 03:26 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post
      Both are good to go from what I've seen. People seem to love the Lancers.
      The lancer is a better pmag imo. Polymer durability with steel feed lips. Translucent or solid colors too.

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      04-19-2012 03:31 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by TurboWraith View Post
      The lancer is a better pmag imo. Polymer durability with steel feed lips. Translucent or solid colors too.
      Those lancers look awesome.

      I love my PMags but steel feed lips would be a huge upgrade regardless. Obviously it's not the same but I love the Butler Creek Steel Lips mags for my 10/22 .

    17. 04-19-2012 04:13 PM #67
      Lancer also does a modified magazine solely for sale by One Source Tactical --- not sure how different it is.

    18. 04-19-2012 04:19 PM #68
      The grand-daddy of them all...


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      04-19-2012 04:21 PM #69
      I have a few Lancer mags for my SIG 556... They're pretty nice and the clear effect goes well with the wannabe 551 look.
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      04-19-2012 06:02 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post
      The grand-daddy of them all...

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      I believe that ATI is making the .22LR version of it and I think another company is making a repro in 762x39 but can't find links. Would be nice to complement an AK with. The FG42 repros look nice as well but run $5k.

    21. 04-19-2012 08:58 PM #71
      ^Yep, as well as an MP40 in .22LR.

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      05-01-2012 04:00 PM #72
      Dope shiz from real life. I simply love the intensity of this photo from last year:



      The photo is of New Zealand Special Forces leaving the Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul after fending off a 5 hour Taliban siege on June 28, 2011.

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    23. 05-01-2012 07:11 PM #73
      Now that's a great photo. Curious - are those full on suppressors, or just quasi-suppressors? Look too short to be fully capable.

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      05-01-2012 07:51 PM #74
      Mini from Surefire?
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      05-01-2012 08:20 PM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by NoDubJustYet View Post
      Mini from Surefire?
      Not sure but it looks like M4 that theyre using and not a .308 rifle that the Mini needs
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