Suggest .22LR Pistol (No wheel guns)

[emmettlodge]

Want to get into something other than my M&P15-22 for a change.

This'll be for fun at the range. And maybe taking out a nuisance woodchuck now and then.

Budget: $400 (but can be stretched).

-Rail attachment ability a plus.
-Reliable.
-Easy to clean.
-Novice shooter.

[GrkPranksta69]

Want to get into something other than my M&P15-22 for a change.

This'll be for fun at the range. And maybe taking out a nuisance woodchuck now and then.

Budget: $400 (but can be stretched).

-Rail attachment ability a plus.
-Reliable.
-Easy to clean.
-Novice shooter.

A Ruger MKIII or 22/45 fits all your quota cept for easy to clean. Some people say theyre pita and some say its easy.

[gotta_jet]

A Browning Buck Mark as well, but i'm unsure of any rail systems for them, factory or aftermarket.

I'd stay away from the Umarex stuff.

The Ruger SR22 is getting generally favorable reviews, but it's a bit early to tell how well they're keeping up under high round counts, and what Ruger will recall them for.

[Señor Peligro]

Ruger MKIII Target

Hilariously accurate, kind of a pain in the ass to take down

[emmettlodge]

I see these online a lot for super cheap ($200-250). What are they like?

Kel Tec 22 pistol

[DonL]

The Rugers can be a PITA for beginners to clean, but there's a trick or gimmick that make it really easy to deal with. It's fairly easy-peasy, cheddar cheezy after that.

[abawp]

Budget: $400 (but can be stretched).

-Rail attachment ability a plus.
-Reliable.
-Easy to clean.
-Novice shooter.

Look no further:



Seems everyone and their brother has a Ruger, I don't see too many of these at the range. Plus the take down is super simple and my experience thus far (2,000+ rds) shows it to be extremely reliable when utilizing the correct recoil spring for the ammo, despite what the internet has to say. Plus I find the trigger to be a better feel compared to the Walther P22 (felt like a marshmallow). OTD when I bought the Mosquito at Cabelas was ~$350

[gotta_jet]

My boss has a Mosquito, and he really likes it, but the only thing that feeds reliably in it are minimags.

[HookedOn16v]

I've also noticed that with the mosquito and mini mags.

And the one I had no matter the ammo or spring or cleaning or dry or wet, not accurate. Gave it to my dad I got so fed up with it.

Ruger MKII FTW!!!

[emmettlodge]

Okay sooo...

Just on the topic of Rugers...

Explain the difference between the MkII and the MkIII????

[GrkPranksta69]

• Addition of a visible loaded chamber indicator on the left side.
• Magazine release moved, from bottom of grip to behind triggerguard.
• All Mark III pistols with adjustable sights are drilled and tapped for a Weaver-style scope base which ships with the pistol.

Note: Ruger manual says ... "NOTE C — Scope mount bases and rings listed will fit all MARK III and 22/45 MARK III pistols. Only the MARK III Target models are drilled and tapped at the factory. The MARK III Standard models must be drilled and tapped by your local gunsmith. (Drilling and tapping instructions available upon request.)
Note: As of March 2011 it appears as though Ruger has started drilling and tapping the Mark III Standard model.

• A new magazine disconnect prevents the pistol from being fired with the magazine removed from the pistol.
• An internal safety lock has been added. Using a key, the safety can be locked in the "safe" position.
• Shorter tapered bolt ears
• A smoothly contoured ejection port profile

[abawp]

My boss has a Mosquito, and he really likes it, but the only thing that feeds reliably in it are minimags.

I know Sig Sauer specifically developed the Mosquito around the minimags but I've had just about everything under the sun through mine, even that bulk box of 550 Remington high velocity. Only feeding problems thus far is after several hundred rounds due to lead fowling of the chamber. All I need then is a little dab of oil through the chamber port and it's ready to go again, which seems to be indicative of all .22s.

[John A]

Or the anti-Ruger: Browning Buckmark.

Lots of accessories, crazy accurate, tons of different models to choose from. Not picky about ammo.

Edit: Oh, and easy to put a rail on:


Buckmark Bullseye Target URX by xd_john, on Flickr

[TurboZen]

I've been interested in ruger 22/45 with rails for optics.

[Broke]

Okay sooo...

Just on the topic of Rugers...

Explain the difference between the MkII and the MkIII????

MKII = Awesome
MKIII = Putrid Spawn of Lawyers

Is that generalizing?

[dj age one]

MKII = Awesome
MKIII = Putrid Spawn of Lawyers

Is that generalizing?

nope..

guns or volkswagens, thats about correct.

[GTIGUY!]

just bought a mosquito at cabala's. plan on testing out there said finiky ammo.

[HookedOn16v]

nope..

guns or volkswagens, thats about correct.

Well said.

[cj!]

M&P .22

[ironmule]

Emmett how do you like your M&P15?

[emmettlodge]

Emmett how do you like your M&P15?

I have nothing to compare it to but I think it's fantastic. It was cheap, it's easy to clean, it's lightweight, it's durable, it's reasonably accurate, and it can shoot lots of cheap bullets fast. That's about all I require in a firearm

[ironmule]

nice! S&W is about a 40min drive for me i was thinking about picking one up(hopefully on the cheap). if you don't mind what did it cost? the online prices vary too much to get an idea.

[emmettlodge]

nice! S&W is about a 40min drive for me i was thinking about picking one up(hopefully on the cheap). if you don't mind what did it cost? the online prices vary too much to get an idea.

Mine was lightly used from Gander Mtn, and cost $329.

[ironmule]

Mine was lightly used from Gander Mtn, and cost $329.

good to know what to expect- thanks

[emmettlodge]

good to know what to expect- thanks

Oh, forgot to mention.

If you buy a used 15-22, make sure you check the spring color. There is this spring inside the rifle - it's attached to the bolt, and the T-handle/charging handle sits on top of it. You want to see what color it is.

The early rifles (like mine) have a silver spring, and they have trouble with certain ammunition - basically they only like federal bulk, winchester bulk, or CCI minimags. Everything else fails to fire a lot. Something about the spring stiffness was wrong.

Later rifles, including those sold new now, have a blue colored spring, and they will fire most ammo no problem.

I don't know what the spring is called or what is really does exactly. But here is a picture (this one is an early silver spring):

[spockcat]

Way out of your budget but here are a couple of nice .22s. Also way too collectible to take out shooting at woodchucks (or even paper targets).

[AutobahnTDI]

I will be hitting the "buy now" button on gunbroker the instant after I get my permit in the mail.

[cryption]

I will be hitting the "buy now" button on gunbroker the instant after I get my permit in the mail.

I have an SR-22. I've put about 2500 rounds downrange with it, and I love it. I was torn between the SR-22 and the p22q by Walther, and I'm extremely happy with my choice of the Ruger.

I'm a big .22 kinda guy. I have the mKII, and a couple other .22 weapons and the SR-22 is my new fav.

I'm one who likes the .22 on my hip better then the .45 in my safe - and I find the SR-22 is a great carry. With CCI stingers and good shot placement, I don't feel under-armed.

[GrkPranksta69]

I'm one who likes the .22 on my hip better then the .45 in my safe - and I find the SR-22 is a great carry. With CCI stingers and good shot placement, I don't feel under-armed.

Wow, not knocking you down but holy **** sir. I know I couldn't do a .22 for a CCW even though it is better than a sharp stick. Why not have anything else lightweight in a bigger caliber such as the P3AT or a LCP?

[cryption]

Wow, not knocking you down but holy **** sir. I know I couldn't do a .22 for a CCW even though it is better than a sharp stick. Why not have anything else lightweight in a bigger caliber such as the P3AT or a LCP?

Actually, an LCP is next on my "to buy" list, and I have a PPK with a very nice holster I carry on occasion. My big thing here is weather.

I can empty a clip (10 rounds) very quickly in a 2" group. I think I'll get the job done. Pop one in the head for good measure. Plenty of people are killed every year by a .22. The human body is so fragile, I've seen cases of people dying from getting bonked on the head from falling objects.

However, I do know where you're coming from. I was the same way for a long time. I have a tricked out XD-9 with all the goodies I carried for years, and if I'm wearing clothing that can conceal the gun comfortably I still carry that when weather permits (read winter). I used to carry it exclusively.

Then, I killed a deer with .22. Nice 8 pointer. I had my Ruger 10/22 out playing in the brush, plinking at birds and stuff when he walked up. I debated taking the shot, as I have all the hunting licenses but I'm not really a deer hunter. Plus, underkill is a scary thing - no need to make an animal suffer. I had a full 50 round banana mag in my Ruger, so I knew I could get the job done quickly.

I shot twice in the lung area - I've been told that's where to aim - he ran maybe 5 paces and fell. I was using CCI stingers, a "varmit" .22 round.

Our summers top 110 degrees with crazy humidity. The SR-22 is light and very easy to conceal. I feel confident enough in myself (I shoot IDPA) to take proper aim and get the necessary shot placement for a quick kill with a .22 if the need should ever arise, and I can actually conceal it in the summer.

Thus is my decision to carry a .22. I can conceal it with minimal clothing on, and have little doubt about taking care of business.

That's why I always say "I prefer the .22 on my hip over the 9 on the nightstand."

Let's see what happens when the wife "oks" my next pistol purchase.

[GrkPranksta69]

Actually, an LCP is next on my "to buy" list, and I have a PPK with a very nice holster I carry on occasion. My big thing here is weather.

I can empty a clip (10 rounds) very quickly in a 2" group. I think I'll get the job done. Pop one in the head for good measure. Plenty of people are killed every year by a .22. The human body is so fragile, I've seen cases of people dying from getting bonked on the head from falling objects..

Oh yeah there's no doubt that .22 is a lethal round. I had a friend try to tell me that he wouldn't mind being hit by one from 75 ft away thinking that it was a BB or something. He found it so hard to believe that it has the ability to kill.

However, I do know where you're coming from. I was the same way for a long time. I have a tricked out XD-9 with all the goodies I carried for years, and if I'm wearing clothing that can conceal the gun comfortably I still carry that when weather permits (read winter). I used to carry it exclusively.

How do you like the XD-9? Recommend it or?

Then, I killed a deer with .22. Nice 8 pointer. I had my Ruger 10/22 out playing in the brush, plinking at birds and stuff when he walked up. I debated taking the shot, as I have all the hunting licenses but I'm not really a deer hunter. Plus, underkill is a scary thing - no need to make an animal suffer. I had a full 50 round banana mag in my Ruger, so I knew I could get the job done quickly.

I shot twice in the lung area - I've been told that's where to aim - he ran maybe 5 paces and fell. I was using CCI stingers, a "varmint" .22 round.

I love using Stingers in any of my .22s such a nice round.

Our summers top 110 degrees with crazy humidity. The SR-22 is light and very easy to conceal. I feel confident enough in myself (I shoot IDPA) to take proper aim and get the necessary shot placement for a quick kill with a .22 if the need should ever arise, and I can actually conceal it in the summer.

Thus is my decision to carry a .22. I can conceal it with minimal clothing on, and have little doubt about taking care of business.

That's why I always say "I prefer the .22 on my hip over the 9 on the nightstand."

I feel you on the heat, we're similar in temps except we top off at low 100s. Makes much more sense now.

[cryption]

I love the XD. When I turned 21 I bought my first pistol, a Sig Sauer P225. One of the old German Police ones. Since then I've been hooked and went through 14 guns by my 22nd birthday, mostly trades on my local CHL forums or in my gun club.

My first XD was an XD-40 service model. The 4", fresh out of the box. I traded a Kahr PM9 with 4 mags for it new in box. It instantly fit me. I love the grip and trigger safeties, and it's one of the best feeling "out of the box" guns I'd shot under $700.

I have a bad habit of getting rid of guns that I can't conceal easily, so I traded it for a West German Walther PPK.

I had an XD void. Every time I went to the range something was missing - and I needed that XD. So, I went to my local gun shop and picked up an XD-9sc. It's a nice size 9mm, and with the extended mag feels like a full size. I put Trijicon night sights, a nice slip-on grip, and a Springer Precision trigger kit. It's the one gun I'll NEVER trade or get rid of, and I'm still always on the trade.

[emmettlodge]

Still going to buy a .22 pistol. Just haven't done it yet.

Leaning heavily towards a Mosquito. Checked one out and handled it at Gander Mtn the other day. The grip was nicely sized for my hand, I liked the overall feel of the pistol, and it looks pretty badass too.

I also handled the MKIII but I found the grip a little small and I thought it felt a tad front-heavy. It also doesn't look as cool as the Mosquito

[emmettlodge]

Just an update on this...

Saw a lightly used Walther SR22 at Gander Mountain for sale for $209. Alllllmoooost bought it. Going to go back Saturday and if they still have it, I'm getting it.

[AutobahnTDI]

Just an update on this...

Saw a lightly used Walther SR22 at Gander Mountain for sale for $209. Alllllmoooost bought it. Going to go back Saturday and if they still have it, I'm getting it.

Is that like a Walter P22 and Ruger SR22 combined into one?