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    1. 03-19-2012 08:29 PM #1
      Bought this golf a few months ago, before winter, just started noticing this stuff, what looks like rust?

      Anything I can do to fix this, or prevent it? It's happening on both sides of the vehicle.


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      03-19-2012 08:33 PM #2
      yeah that's rust. You'll have to totally brush it all off down to bare metal, possibly weld a patch in if the metal is totally rusted out, smooth with body filler, prime and re-paint.

      if you're not up for all that, It looks like you could clean the staining off that paint with a really good wax job, and if you keep the car clean it may stay like that for a long time before getting worse, but I bet the inside of that fender is pretty nasty looking.
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      03-19-2012 08:33 PM #3
      Have you tried to wipe it or clean it? Looks rusty to me but you never know, could be some sort of residue or rustproofing running out of the doors, etc.

    4. 03-19-2012 08:35 PM #4
      You can almost see the bubbling of rust, I THINK.

      I might have to scrub it real good, and if it is indeed rust, I might have to take it to a body shop, I don't have the tools to clean it up.

      What do you think it'd cost to fix it proper?

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      03-19-2012 08:36 PM #5
      Its rust, its coming up through the paint. The metal under it is already damaged. It's cut and weld time or ignore and wait for it to get worse, which it will.

    6. 03-19-2012 08:38 PM #6
      so clean it off and sell it? haha ......

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      03-19-2012 08:43 PM #7
      its not the end of the world but it wouldn't surprise me if that's exactly what the previous owner did. It might cost you a few hundred dollars per side I'd *guess*.
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      03-19-2012 08:44 PM #8
      Looks like it bubbling up along the fender lip... or my monitor is just that dirty.

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      03-19-2012 08:45 PM #9
      Yeah and seeing the bubbles it could come from the inner side.

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      03-19-2012 08:57 PM #10
      i bet there is plenty of rust right under that paint.... is it lifted ? flimsy ?

      if so u need to remove surface paint then sand n use epoxy filler or just cut n weld it with sheet metal
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      03-19-2012 09:20 PM #11
      There's no question, that's rot.
      It looks like it's pretty bad. I suspect you'll find penetration. Mk4's have a 12 year rust perforation warranty that I've exercised a few times. Don't do anything with it if you expect to make a warranty claim. Just take it in and point at the warranty, make sure you go to a dealer that has a good reputation cause it doesn't work everywhere. You might want to pull back the fender liner and make sure there isn't a huge pile of wet soil back there egging it on too. This happens VERY frequently on trailing area of the front fender on the mk4 chassis and ought to be cleaned out seasonally. I've small plants sprouting in there even. GL.

    12. 03-19-2012 09:29 PM #12
      Looks like old blood did you run someone over?

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      03-19-2012 09:59 PM #13
      Why is your front fender molded in to the body down there? Judging by this and the poor body line as it gets higher, some shoddy bodywork is to blame and VW will probably deny any warranty work on it. Shame about the fender being molded in, I imagine finding a silver Mk4 fender is even easier than finding some sort of meme to fit this situation.

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      03-19-2012 10:41 PM #14
      burn it with fire

      Rust is the absolute worst thing to try to fix. In less you're really good at fixing it, it's not worth it.

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      03-19-2012 10:48 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by InfiniIV View Post
      Why is your front fender molded in to the body down there? Judging by this and the poor body line as it gets higher, some shoddy bodywork is to blame and VW will probably deny any warranty work on it. Shame about the fender being molded in, I imagine finding a silver Mk4 fender is even easier than finding some sort of meme to fit this situation.
      ding ding ding we have a winner.

      that car has seen shoddy body work at some point. Whether cosmetic or repair work, it obviously wasn't done right and moisture has gotten in behind it and started to rust. you can grind it down and repaint but it's just going to come right back because it's coming from the inside.
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      03-19-2012 10:59 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by InfiniIV View Post
      Why is your front fender molded in to the body down there? Judging by this and the poor body line as it gets higher, some shoddy bodywork is to blame and VW will probably deny any warranty work on it. Shame about the fender being molded in, I imagine finding a silver Mk4 fender is even easier than finding some sort of meme to fit this situation.
      my exact thoughts haha, why would they do that and how did you not notice that
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      03-19-2012 11:01 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by rs4-380 View Post
      ding ding ding we have a winner.

      that car has seen shoddy body work at some point. Whether cosmetic or repair work, it obviously wasn't done right and moisture has gotten in behind it and started to rust. you can grind it down and repaint but it's just going to come right back because it's coming from the inside.
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      And not to put too fine of a point on the tangent- but this is why carfax is SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.
      A properly fixed car would not have this issue.
      A cheaply fixed car (not turned in on insurance) would.
      So Carfax can go suck Carfox balls.

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      03-19-2012 11:14 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by vivithemage View Post
      so clean it off and sell it? haha ......
      That's what the stealership that sold me my 2003 a4 did. cost me $600 to fix right.

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