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Thread: This just in, Golf R production to continue indefinitely and into MY13, details inside!

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    03-22-2012 12:23 PM #1
    Saw this posted on the dealer inventory management website:


    MARCH ANNOUNCEMENTS:

    This is the LAST month for MY12 Ordering for all vehicles except Passat and Routan. Next month will be the first MY13 orders for most carlines.


    I just got off the phone with someone at VW distribution support and he confirmed to me, after checking with the actual head of logistics and distribution, that any sold order placed by tomorrow will be a MY12 R but after that they will be MY13 and that there is currently no planned end of production for the R.

    He also told me that there are no planned changes to the MY13 R from the 12, other than the model year designation.

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    03-22-2012 01:19 PM #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Gateway1 View Post
    So, how many '12 R's are currently out there, 500?

    Good news for the '12 R owners.
    i think the total was around 550 at the end of febuary. You have to take into account the number of cars produce and still in the fatherland and on boats. The number is probably closer to 2k

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    03-22-2012 01:22 PM #3
    MY13's won't begin to show up until July, so there is still a few more months of MY12 production to land.

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    03-22-2012 01:50 PM #4
    This is just a logistic issue. They are preventing the usual dropping prices of 2012 models in the fall.

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    03-23-2012 03:36 PM #5
    According to Jay Prichert at askavwsalesguy.com, there will NOT be a 2013 Golf R. I don't think we really know which salesman is right and which is wrong, but without more info, I wouldn't bet the house on a 2013 Golf R.

    As of the end of February, there were 466 R's sold in the U.S.

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    03-23-2012 03:41 PM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by ddh716 View Post
    According to Jay Prichert at askavwsalesguy.com, there will NOT be a 2013 Golf R. I don't think we really know which salesman is right and which is wrong, but without more info, I wouldn't bet the house on a 2013 Golf R.

    As of the end of February, there were 466 R's sold in the U.S.
    I did not speak to a salesperson at a dealership, I spoke directly with someone at VW distribution, who had just spoken directly with the head of distribution for VWoA and what I posted came straight from the VW dealer distribution website. Believe what you like.

    I don't mean to come off harsh, but, unlike many people on internet forums, I make it a point to try not to post things that are not facts.
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    03-23-2012 03:42 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Gateway1 View Post

    Good news for the '12 R owners.
    Why?
    FS: Golf R OEM HPFP
    Scotch. It's time.

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    03-23-2012 03:46 PM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Time for a GTI View Post
    Why?
    Reduced supply = increased demand = higher resale values

    However, low sales reduce the chance of the MK7 R coming to NA.

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    03-23-2012 03:54 PM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay07GLI View Post
    Reduced supply = increased demand = higher resale values
    They're not reducing supply. They're supplying MY13 instead of MY12.
    FS: Golf R OEM HPFP
    Scotch. It's time.

    Quote Originally Posted by roadtripper View Post
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    03-23-2012 04:00 PM #10
    orly?

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    03-23-2012 04:36 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubDriver View Post
    I did not speak to a salesperson at a dealership, I spoke directly with someone at VW distribution, who had just spoken directly with the head of distribution for VWoA and what I posted came straight from the VW dealer distribution website. Believe what you like.

    I don't mean to come off harsh, but, unlike many people on internet forums, I make it a point to try not to post things that are not facts.
    Not harsh at all. My fault for not reading your post more carefully.

    I don't necessarily believe the site that says there will not be a 2013 model - just trying to convey that there is conflicting information out there. Obviously, your source should be far more reliable and aware of what is really going on.

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    03-23-2012 04:40 PM #12
    from the beginning the plan was to go into 2013. things became a little hazey as we moved forward because all the focus was on the Passat and Beetle.

    the Golf R originally showed up in the order system as a 2103 and the very first orders were 2013, VW shifted it to 2012 in November I believe.

    This is Legit info.

    HOWEVER!. No 2013 Golf R in the Order system as of yet.
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    03-23-2012 09:07 PM #13
    Will any of you guys be willing to update this thread?

    http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...sperson/page51

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    03-23-2012 10:40 PM #14
    From the Left Hand News article on the R

    Although pricey, we doubt any of the 5,000 Golf Rs VW plans to import over the 2012 and 2013 model years will have any issues finding a home.

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    03-24-2012 12:09 AM #15
    Great now just hurry up and get my R in eta is 6-27 urggggg lol
    Just do it life is short.

  16. 03-24-2012 12:27 AM #16
    Eh Jamie should chime in here, It's interesting to see that they will continue production given the history with past R32's.

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    03-24-2012 01:46 PM #17
    I just had to order my R on Wednesday. Should I have waited two days ?

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    03-24-2012 10:59 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Trinzler View Post
    Eh Jamie should chime in here, It's interesting to see that they will continue production given the history with past R32's.
    This is exactly why they would continue production. I think the current R overcomes some of the problems behind the 2008 sales problems. The economy is picking up, it has a manual, and it is available with 4 doors. Anyhow, they will produce the same number of cars but roll them out over a longer period of time. If production were completed by the summer as would happen with 2012 models, there would be a glut at dealerships. This designation probably means production will continue at its slow current pace through the end of the year. Essentially, they have the freedom to slow down production depending on demand. As I recall, production of US R's was hampered because of parts limitations and worldwide demand. This move fixes that concern as well.

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    04-03-2012 04:39 PM #19
    VeeDubDriver - did the contact you spoke with confirm or deny that they will in fact eventually build 5000 units over the 2 model years - or perhaps they will build more or less?

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    04-03-2012 04:47 PM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by EZ View Post
    VeeDubDriver - did the contact you spoke with confirm or deny that they will in fact eventually build 5000 units over the 2 model years - or perhaps they will build more or less?
    I didn't raise the question, but I have never seen that figure published from VWoA for the R. I think most media outlets just assumed that would be the number, based on the previous R32 runs.

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    04-03-2012 05:32 PM #21
    That's my belief as well. Wonder if they just plan to keep building ~300 a month until the MK7 takes over the assembly line, or they start to sit around on dealer lots.

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    04-03-2012 05:38 PM #22
    I suspect that they are only building them as dealers order them, either as sold orders or spec orders. If dealers stopped ordering them then they would probably stop building them for the US market.

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    04-03-2012 06:21 PM #23
    That's a frightening thought. My lease is up in June and I'll probably lease again. If the lease figures don't get better, I'm not sure what I'll do. Just bought a new house so while I *could* put $20k down and purchase, I'm not sure that I want to. And I also done want a +$600 car payment.

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    04-03-2012 06:25 PM #24
    Quote Originally Posted by EZ View Post
    That's a frightening thought. My lease is up in June and I'll probably lease again. If the lease figures don't get better, I'm not sure what I'll do. Just bought a new house so while I *could* put $20k down and purchase, I'm not sure that I want to. And I also done want a +$600 car payment.
    I know how you feel. My payment cap is $500/mo. To buy it at 1.9% interest, I would have to put down $8000 to get the payment that low, and I really don't want that kind of cash tied up in a depreciating asset.

    I am going to start thinking of plan B, which might be the Caddy ATS. Nothing else out there really lights my fire right now.

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    04-03-2012 06:40 PM #25
    So are there any MY2013 Golf Rs in the system yet?
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    04-03-2012 07:00 PM #26
    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubDriver View Post
    I know how you feel. My payment cap is $500/mo. To buy it at 1.9% interest, I would have to put down $8000 to get the payment that low, and I really don't want that kind of cash tied up in a depreciating asset.

    I am going to start thinking of plan B, which might be the Caddy ATS.
    Think of it this way, what are you getting on your risk-free investments? 0.25%? We have a bank savings returning 1.7%, and some government ibonds returning about 3%, but anything higher than that is pretty high risk. So 1.9% is a pretty good return.

    I think the Cadillac ATS is going to be expensive, especially the one we really want, the ATS-V.

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    04-03-2012 07:33 PM #27
    Quote Originally Posted by goforit2007 View Post
    So are there any MY2013 Golf Rs in the system yet?
    Not yet. Ill make a new thread when it is in the system. as previously stated. 5000 is assumed but never stated. as all the Golf/GTI offerings are slow to populate the oder guide i suspect the MKVII hitting early like January or March of 2013 so the 1500-2000 Rs that may end up being built could be the whole deal. I dunno guys im trying to get more info from on high but im getting resistance because i dont think the big wigs even know what they are gonna do.
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    04-03-2012 07:51 PM #28
    Quote Originally Posted by 1.8turboB5 View Post
    Not yet. Ill make a new thread when it is in the system. as previously stated. 5000 is assumed but never stated. as all the Golf/GTI offerings are slow to populate the oder guide i suspect the MKVII hitting early like January or March of 2013 so the 1500-2000 Rs that may end up being built could be the whole deal. I dunno guys im trying to get more info from on high but im getting resistance because i dont think the big wigs even know what they are gonna do.

    okay

    Thank you very much for the info
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    04-03-2012 07:53 PM #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Gateway1 View Post
    I would love to see them build 1500-2000 total.
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    04-03-2012 10:03 PM #30
    they should leave it at 1000. LOL. Golf .:Rare.

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    04-27-2012 02:49 PM #31
    Put the order in on April 22nd.

    Got this from the dealer on the 25th.

    "We spoke to the factory and the production starts by next week and the estimated arrival is on last week of July. I will keep you posted as days come.

    Model Year: 2012
    Model: 5K15X6

    GOLF R 4-DR W/SUNROOF & NAV $36,090
    Exterior Color: CARBON STEEL GRAY
    Interior Color: TITAN BLACK LEATHER
    DESTINATION CHARGE: $770
    Estimated Total MSRP: $36,860
    Commnum: R35860
    Status: Factory Order Bank"

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    04-27-2012 02:56 PM #32
    Quote Originally Posted by ajanjo View Post
    Put the order in on April 22nd.

    Got this from the dealer on the 25th.

    "We spoke to the factory and the production starts by next week and the estimated arrival is on last week of July. I will keep you posted as days come.

    Model Year: 2012
    Model: 5K15X6

    GOLF R 4-DR W/SUNROOF & NAV $36,090
    Exterior Color: CARBON STEEL GRAY
    Interior Color: TITAN BLACK LEATHER
    DESTINATION CHARGE: $770
    Estimated Total MSRP: $36,860
    Commnum: R35860
    Status: Factory Order Bank"
    Your vehicle is actually listed as "Production Stock." It has already been built and factory inspected. You ordered it from Winn VW, right?
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    04-27-2012 03:51 PM #33
    are they still going to be made in Germany?

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    04-27-2012 04:53 PM #34
    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubDriver View Post
    Your vehicle is actually listed as "Production Stock." It has already been built and factory inspected. You ordered it from Winn VW, right?
    Am I reading this correctly? Anjanjo ordered R April 22 and the car is already built?

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    04-27-2012 04:56 PM #35
    Quote Originally Posted by veuu View Post
    Am I reading this correctly? Anjanjo ordered R April 22 and the car is already built?
    There is a good chance the vehicle was already in the order bank and the dealer was able to make a change or it was already configured the way he wanted it. I am just going by what I see in the inventory management system.

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