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      04-03-2012 07:37 PM #26
      so I started to remove the rest of the harness from the MK4.

      was wondering about a few connectors- if anyone knows...

      which one is this?


      and this


      and this connector which I some how missed(apart of the alternator/ ac harness)


      the middle harness(most of the connectors were hooked up to stuff on the auto trans, just want to make sure I'm not going to need any of this-will not be including SAI/but will retain power steering.)


      close up-


      these to I suspect to be apart of the auto trans crap(please correct me if I am wrong...)


      what is this guy too(on driver side inner fendor)


      last but not least...what is this giant connector for?
      Last edited by 2OVT; 04-03-2012 at 07:39 PM.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

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      04-03-2012 08:41 PM #27
      See this page for some more wire pictures:
      http://www.wetdub.com/phpBB3/viewtop...=2731&start=45


      The fusebox for ABS and a five wire connector with four wires for the Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor.
      Inside the relay box there should be two relays. Relay #100 powers the ECM. Relay #428 powers the Secondary Air Pump.
      (blue/yellow, red/lilac, black, green (black and green are twisted together)
      Pin 1 - ECM 29
      Pin 2 - ECM 53
      Pin 3 - ECM 27
      Pin 4 - ECM 66
      Pin 5 - N/C

      AKA


      A two wire connector with one power wire (1-white/red).
      This supplies power to the ECM relay. It connects into the chassis harness.





      I think that has the fan controller on it - be careful!




      Could be... didn't have one of those.




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      04-03-2012 09:32 PM #28
      first off, I really appreciate the help and identification man, we're gonna have a history of this soon enough

      First- I have the MAF already labeled... so I am kinda confused as to where that came into play?

      this didn't run into the little fuse box

      Second- So I will need to use the ECM relay power connector (the one single wire white/red) for my swap?

      Third- Did you use the fan stuff from the mk4? I was under the impression I could retain my OE g60 fan stuff?


      In this picture, I was specifically referring to that individual connector- more or less the whole bunch and the big box thingy that had two big connectors with a bunch of red wires (sorry, wiring n00b)

      Fourth- ABS is deleted in my C, I do not plan to run this. Only accessories I plan to run of course are alt and power steering. Can't I just delete this?

      Do you know if the g60 power steering lines will work with the mk4 p/s pump? I was told it should.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    4. 04-04-2012 02:21 AM #29
      [QUOTE=2OVT;76729427]first off, I really appreciate the help and identification man, we're gonna have a history of this soon enough

      First- I have the MAF already labeled... so I am kinda confused as to where that came into play?

      this didn't run into the little fuse box

      I did an aww swap a while ago and if this is the connector I believe it is, it had the tach signal wire, coolant temp wire, and a bunch of powers for various things (sorry I cant be more help with the specific powers) The connector is there to tie the car side wiring harness to the engine side.
      Last edited by jblais; 04-04-2012 at 02:24 AM.

    5. 04-05-2012 08:52 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by 2OVT View Post
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      04-05-2012 11:16 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by AmIdYfReAk View Post
      Dont waste your time, Buy any of the ebay/raceland 3" downpipes, Fits perfect.
      I get my material cheap
      Last edited by 2OVT; 04-05-2012 at 05:15 PM.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    7. 04-05-2012 09:09 PM #32
      quick question , its been a while for me i guess . i thought there was a problem using a auto 20v with the 02A , that the crank is different where the push rod would hit. when i used to do swaps i saved the autos for anything that was not cable shift.

      would just like to know
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    8. 04-05-2012 10:41 PM #33
      The 058 blocks from the Audi/Passats use have two different cranks, Manual and automatic.

      While the 06A Block uses only one crank, and fits any transmission perfect.

      His block is a 06A.
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      04-05-2012 11:05 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by AmIdYfReAk View Post
      The 058 blocks from the Audi/Passats use have two different cranks, Manual and automatic.

      While the 06A Block uses only one crank, and fits any transmission perfect.

      His block is a 06A.
      win.

      058=old 1.8T blocks such as AEB/AGU?

      I was at the junkyard today looking for small things for the Corrado with no luck

      I did come across an 'AWD' 1.8T, guessing it was a 2000? Are the oil dummy connectors the same as the AWW/AWP?

      Is there a difference between the AWD and AWP intake manifolds? I know I read somewhere that the AGU manifold was the transverse large port manifold which flowed better than the AWP stocker. I'm assuming AWD/AWW/AWP are all the same? In that case, how is porting the AWP intake out?
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

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      04-05-2012 11:35 PM #35
      The AEB head/manifold has the largest ports mine is a modified AEB manifold

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      04-05-2012 11:52 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by 3 bar View Post
      The AEB head/manifold has the largest ports mine is a modified AEB manifold
      So the AGU isn't the same as the AEB?
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

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      04-06-2012 01:54 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by 2OVT View Post
      So the AGU isn't the same as the AEB?
      The agu is the large port transverse and the aeb is the large port longitudinal. The aeb won't work without cutting the plenum off and making a new one such as the picture above. Sometimes this ends up being cheaper than getting the agu.

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      04-06-2012 06:13 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by PSUCorrado View Post
      The agu is the large port transverse and the aeb is the large port longitudinal. The aeb won't work without cutting the plenum off and making a new one such as the picture above. Sometimes this ends up being cheaper than getting the agu.
      Just as I thought and said. I'll just source out an AGU intake then.

      nice build btw PSU, severe inspiration
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    14. 04-06-2012 10:23 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by 2OVT View Post
      win.

      058=old 1.8T blocks such as AEB/AGU?

      I was at the junkyard today looking for small things for the Corrado with no luck

      I did come across an 'AWD' 1.8T, guessing it was a 2000? Are the oil dummy connectors the same as the AWW/AWP?

      Is there a difference between the AWD and AWP intake manifolds? I know I read somewhere that the AGU manifold was the transverse large port manifold which flowed better than the AWP stocker. I'm assuming AWD/AWW/AWP are all the same? In that case, how is porting the AWP intake out?

      All Mk4's 1.8t's are the same, There are small differences with the electronics/turbo but rest is the same.

      The AGU is a Euro only 1.8t, its a FWD Bigport.
      Our only Big port is the AEB in the passats and Audi's from 1996ish to 1999.5.
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      04-06-2012 10:43 PM #40
      Anyone port the AWP manifold? I can't find a decent semi- cheap intake manifold :/
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    16. 04-07-2012 12:25 AM #41
      On the stock turbo, don't waste your time.

      Trust me on this one, Swap in the stock motor and get it running considering you have EVERYTHING To do it... Then worry about the mods and swaps later!

      My build is still not done due to mucking around like you're starting to do... ha!
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      04-07-2012 08:45 AM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by AmIdYfReAk View Post
      On the stock turbo, don't waste your time.

      Trust me on this one, Swap in the stock motor and get it running considering you have EVERYTHING To do it... Then worry about the mods and swaps later!
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      04-07-2012 11:09 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by AmIdYfReAk View Post
      On the stock turbo, don't waste your time.

      Trust me on this one, Swap in the stock motor and get it running considering you have EVERYTHING To do it... Then worry about the mods and swaps later!

      My build is still not done due to mucking around like you're starting to do... ha!
      hehehe thanks for the words of wisdom, I'll just keep it stock now besides the few things I have coming.

      Quote Originally Posted by hallkbrd View Post
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      I'll deffinatlyl be taking advice from both you fellah (AmIdYfReAk / hallkbrd) on this swap

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      Thanks man

      more updates by Sunday, should have to auto trans separated today and have the AWP on a stand.

      I am curious about block cleaning and painting...can anyone chime in on this? My block has a tad amount of surface rust starting...I want it looking pretty before she goes in or should I wait until I pull it back out for BT sometime later this year/next?
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

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      04-08-2012 05:21 PM #45
      is this the fan control?


      pulled the engine harness out, and began to check lables. So far I think I figured it out lol


      loom 2
      Last edited by 2OVT; 05-06-2012 at 03:59 PM.
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      04-08-2012 07:31 PM #46
      Do you have a bentley book? If not, I tried to help you out with wire diagram by using your vin.

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      04-08-2012 09:32 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by chc-rado View Post
      Do you have a bentley book? If not, I tried to help you out with wire diagram by using your vin.
      No Bentley here :/

      I am pretty positive I have the two looms correct as far as what all the connectors are...minus the 'brake' one on loom 2, I'll have to double check on that one.
      Last edited by 2OVT; 04-09-2012 at 12:01 AM.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    23. 04-15-2012 11:21 AM #48
      You can remove 90% of Loom 2, all you *NEED* is the primary 0/2 and a few power/ground lines.

      Anything connected to the "TCM" ( its the transmission ECU ) can get out of there, The power steering wires can just be joined and tucked into the harness.

      N80 can be joined with a 330OHM 1/2 watt resistor and tucked in as well.

      The rest can go buh-bye.
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      04-15-2012 12:42 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by AmIdYfReAk View Post
      You can remove 90% of Loom 2, all you *NEED* is the primary 0/2 and a few power/ground lines.

      Anything connected to the "TCM" ( its the transmission ECU ) can get out of there, The power steering wires can just be joined and tucked into the harness.

      N80 can be joined with a 330OHM 1/2 watt resistor and tucked in as well.

      The rest can go buh-bye.
      Yes, all I wanted to keep were from loom 2...
      o2's
      the two grounds
      coil + to loom 1
      ecm relay power
      MAF
      power steering

      I was also curious how the wiring will go for the MAF readings for my stock cluster like, oil temp and all that jazz?

      also not positive if I wanna rip loom 1 apart just to take out the n249 wiring and connector...that's the only one I don't want in loom 1 because I won't be using SAI/n249/n112.
      Last edited by 2OVT; 05-06-2012 at 04:00 PM.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

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      04-15-2012 01:04 PM #50
      You can remove 90% of Loom 2, all you *NEED* is the primary 0/2 and a few power/ground lines.



      Anything connected to the "TCM" ( its the transmission ECU ) can get out of there, The power steering wires can just be joined and tucked into the harness.



      N80 can be joined with a 330OHM 1/2 watt resistor and tucked in as well.



      The rest can go buh-bye.


      Yes, all I wanted to keep were from loom 2...

      o2's

      the two grounds

      coil + to loom 1

      ecm relay power

      MAF

      power steering



      and I need to figure out what connector the 'brake?' one is, because I found the brake fluid res. connector as part of the 'main' loom or the 3rd loom, which is still sitting in the car, until hopefully today.



      and there was one other connector I wanted to keep, the coolant level one for the coolant ball, unless I can just still use my stock g60 one?



      I was also curious how the wiring will go for the MAF readings for my stock cluster like, oil temp and all that jazz?



      also not positive if I wanna rip loom 1 apart just to take out the n249 wiring and connector...that's the only one I don't want in loom 1 because I won't be using SAI/n249/n112.
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