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    Thread: Technical Data and Modifications for Hardcore Enthusiasts

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      04-11-2012 08:46 AM #176
      Final test of the intake. Installed the high-flow filter provided with the Carbonio intake in place of stock. More improvement, but there is still a slight bit of restriction:



      I'm not worried about it....I'm guessing maybe 3-5hp tops. Once I get my hands on a VWR intake, I will repeat the test to see if the restriction goes to zero. Remember that restriction is only part of the equation. You can remove your filter box completely, have zero restriction, but have less power(engine sucking all of the hot air it wants from the engine bay). I am gathering the MAF and IAT logs now to see if we are reducing restriction AND reducing air inlet temps. That's the golden combination(while maintaining adequate filtration of course!).

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      04-11-2012 08:54 AM #177
      Quote Originally Posted by Tyrol Mike View Post
      I'm assuming that's the brake fluid reservoir next to the battery? Ours is up against the firewall (pretty much directly behind the battery) here in Australia....strange that VW moved it.

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      04-11-2012 11:33 AM #178
      Quote Originally Posted by Lucas_R View Post
      I'm assuming that's the brake fluid reservoir next to the battery? Ours is up against the firewall (pretty much directly behind the battery) here in Australia....strange that VW moved it.
      Correct, it's the brake res.

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      04-11-2012 12:42 PM #179
      Quote Originally Posted by Tyrol Mike View Post
      Yes, the same test can be done on the exhaust side restriction. I have an exhaust backpressure tester/gauge, which I will use when I begin testing/building downpipes.
      THIS!!!

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      04-11-2012 01:50 PM #180
      You should get with other companies and see if they will give or lend you their own intake systems to you for "independent study" type claims and comparisons. I would LOVE to see the difference between the WINtake and the VWR Intake, to see if the cost would be worth it.

      Another thing I'm wondering about are the MAF plots, like which provides the smoother graph which I think would assume to mean a less turbulent flow.
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    6. 04-12-2012 01:54 AM #181
      Quote Originally Posted by Tyrol Mike View Post
      Sorry for not giving you more detailed credit on that bsmith75. I have edited my post.
      can we call it the bsmith Crambone mod??

      I think you guys just sold me on this car. My friend too. It will be fun.
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      04-12-2012 08:04 AM #182
      Quote Originally Posted by GTIVRon View Post
      You should get with other companies and see if they will give or lend you their own intake systems to you for "independent study" type claims and comparisons. I would LOVE to see the difference between the WINtake and the VWR Intake, to see if the cost would be worth it.

      Another thing I'm wondering about are the MAF plots, like which provides the smoother graph which I think would assume to mean a less turbulent flow.
      Companies don't typically like doing things like this as it always puts all but one in bad light. I think you'd have a better shot at local members loaning parts. Either way, it'd be nice. I'd be especially interested in results from the HAI (hot air intakes) out there like the EVO that aren't fully sealed.

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      04-12-2012 08:56 AM #183
      Quick update on the ESP "disable" via VAGCOM steering angle sensor delete. After playing around with the car yesterday, I noticed that it tends to understeer more before going neutral/oversteer. I'm sure the Gen4 Haldex takes steering angle into consideration before preloading the rear clutches. With the steering angle sensor disabled, it seems that the front wheels actually slip/spin before power is transferred to the rear. Uncle Paco is not happy about this!


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      04-12-2012 09:28 AM #184
      Quote Originally Posted by Gateway1 View Post
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      04-12-2012 09:56 AM #185
      After driving Mike's R I began the mod addiction. He's an enabler! It's all his fault . Now I'm stage 1+ with a Carbonio intake and couldn't be happier. He's worth the trip even if you're not local.
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      04-12-2012 02:58 PM #186
      And here I thought Mike was just a pretty face at Tyrol.

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      04-12-2012 04:41 PM #187
      With all due respect Mr. Rictus, don't you have a 24v twin turbo to go finish up from years ago?

      Swap your motor into something AWD as your BEAST and pick up a MK6 R for fuel efficient fun.
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      04-12-2012 05:03 PM #188
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    14. 04-20-2012 07:44 AM #189
      Gone silent in here.... Need some updates.

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      04-20-2012 08:10 AM #190
      255/40-17s are on.

      Suspension disassembled.

      More pics this evening.


    16. 04-20-2012 08:12 AM #191
      Quote Originally Posted by Tyrol Mike View Post
      255/40-17s are on.

      Suspension disassembled.

      More pics this evening.

      Now you are talking!!!! What wheels are the tires on? Sorry if covered earlier don't recall seeing info on them.

      Looking forward to the update and pics.

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      04-20-2012 11:13 AM #192
      Someone was just asking in another thread what it would take to get 245 or 255s on. Sounds like you might have an answer.
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      04-20-2012 11:22 AM #193
      Quote Originally Posted by Lamfalus View Post
      Someone was just asking in another thread what it would take to get 245 or 255s on. Sounds like you might have an answer.
      Mounting 255s on a mk5/6 is really nothing new. It's been done by a number of people on Vortex. 17x8 ET48-50 with 255/40-17 bolts right on.

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      04-20-2012 08:02 PM #194
      Is 255 on an 8" width ok?
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    20. 04-20-2012 08:16 PM #195
      Quote Originally Posted by Lamfalus View Post
      Is 255 on an 8" width ok?
      Depends on the tire but yes.

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      04-20-2012 08:50 PM #196
      Quote Originally Posted by Lamfalus View Post
      Is 255 on an 8" width ok?
      No issues whatsoever. Factory fitment on some VAG vehicles.

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      04-20-2012 08:53 PM #197
      Some headlines from today, with pics coming by Monday;

      8lb savings per corner with Alu control arms and spindles

      6lb saving by going to lightweight 17x8, 255 combo

      40lb saving overalll(spindles, arms, all four wheels/tires)

      Alignment in progress....

    23. 04-21-2012 06:57 AM #198
      Quote Originally Posted by Tyrol Mike View Post
      255/40-17s are on.

      Suspension disassembled.

      More pics this evening.

      Mike, what suspension are you going with?

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      04-21-2012 07:24 AM #199
      Quote Originally Posted by 18bora. View Post
      Mike, what suspension are you going with?
      Stock for now...just did aluminum B6 Passat spindles and Mk2 TT control arms for weight savings and more negative camber. Will eventually go with either VWR or KW v3.

    25. 04-21-2012 07:59 AM #200
      Quote Originally Posted by Tyrol Mike View Post
      Some headlines from today, with pics coming by Monday;

      8lb savings per corner with Alu control arms and spindles

      6lb saving by going to lightweight 17x8, 255 combo

      40lb saving overalll(spindles, arms, all four wheels/tires)

      Alignment in progress....
      That is awesome! Going to weigh it again? Should have dropped some of that heavy nose making closer to 50/50.

      What bushings did you use in the control arms? Can't wait to do similar on my Golf R. The front definitely could use a little negative camber.

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      04-21-2012 10:33 AM #201
      Quote Originally Posted by Tyrol Mike View Post
      Stock for now...just did aluminum B6 Passat spindles and Mk2 TT control arms for weight savings and more negative camber. Will eventually go with either VWR or KW v3.
      Where did you find your TT control arms?

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      04-21-2012 10:53 AM #202
      love what you are doing . Very nice info that you get.

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      04-21-2012 12:38 PM #203
      How far do the tires stick out?
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    29. 04-21-2012 04:25 PM #204
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      04-21-2012 10:47 PM #205
      Again Mike

      From your observation, what kind of modification needed to run the TT spindles?

      Is it only the steering ends?
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    31. 04-22-2012 01:59 AM #206
      Quote Originally Posted by CnSR32 View Post
      That is awesome! Going to weigh it again? Should have dropped some of that heavy nose making closer to 50/50.
      I did some calculations at one point to see how much weight would have to come off the front to get down to 50/50 and it was a retarded amount...in the 300lbs range IIRC. And if you take off the back too then you could be doing yourself a disservice as you'd want to keep the proportions the same. If you take more off the rear (percentage-wise compared to the weight over the rear) then that will actually make the f/r split move towards the front...admittedly by very small amounts. Just to illustrate that with silly numbers:
      If the car weighs 10,000 lbs with 6,000 lbs on the front and 4,000 lbs on the rear so a nice 60/40 split. Now you lop off 2,000 lbs from the front and 2,000 lbs from the rear that leaves you with a car that weighs 6,000 lbs with 4,000 lbs on the front and 2,000lbs on the rear so you now have a 67/33 split.

      I was thinking of doing the battery relocation and it was a fraction of a percent. It all helps but it made me realize that I am not ever going to do enough to actually make a difference.

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      04-22-2012 05:49 PM #207
      Quote Originally Posted by EL_3grab View Post
      Again Mike

      From your observation, what kind of modification needed to run the TT spindles?

      Is it only the steering ends?
      The TT spindles require a lot of modification. The passat spindles are much easier(spindles, lower control arms, and tie rod ends)

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      04-22-2012 05:50 PM #208
      Quote Originally Posted by droopy1592 View Post
      How far do the tires stick out?
      Pics Monday.

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      04-22-2012 05:58 PM #209
      Quote Originally Posted by brandonekingatl View Post
      Where did you find your TT control arms?
      TT control arms I bought new from the dealer a few years ago when I first starting doing this modification on Mk5s. I am done testing the Passat lower control arms if anyone wants to buy them.

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      04-22-2012 06:14 PM #210
      Quote Originally Posted by Tyrol Mike View Post
      The TT spindles require a lot of modification. The passat spindles are much easier(spindles, lower control arms, and tie rod ends)
      Thanks Mike

      What Kind of modification to the spindle do you mean?

      I really would like to get to the bottom of this, I dd my car & work 200km from home, till I have a 2nd car I can't indulge into this
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