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I'm doing this. Only 400 CCA but only 6.75lbs. Expensive as hell, maybe a little crazy, but I'm going to try it out. Living in CA so cold isn't too much of a concern.
https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@...products_id=80
Old - 2001 GTI 1.8T - Matchstick Red (for sale), 1997 Jetta GLX VR6 - Black
New - 2012 Golf R - CSG
#288
I absolutely am. It's no more "idiotic" than many other mods that people here do. I'm not spending $1200 on a battery, more that I am spending $1200 to shed at least 30lbs from the car.
Would you also call an RNS-515 upgrade idiotic? Or an air suspension? Or a set of $1800 coil overs? Or wheels that cost $500+ each? Who's to judge?![]()
Last edited by Lamfalus; 05-10-2012 at 01:10 PM.
Old - 2001 GTI 1.8T - Matchstick Red (for sale), 1997 Jetta GLX VR6 - Black
New - 2012 Golf R - CSG
#289
CAT 2
Skela official test driver
Texas Mile October 2010 171.6 mph
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Last edited by Lamfalus; 05-10-2012 at 01:07 PM.
Old - 2001 GTI 1.8T - Matchstick Red (for sale), 1997 Jetta GLX VR6 - Black
New - 2012 Golf R - CSG
#291
Cost:benefit. That's why people will think it's crazy.
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Time for some brake weight pron;
I went with a Brembo kit for a number of reasons; quality, performance, pad availability, and product support. There are a number of kits available from Brembo that will fit the GolfR. There is a 6 piston/350mm disk, a 4 piston 355mm, and a 4 piston 365mm. The price and performance rating go down as the rotor size goes up(Yes, I know that sounds odd). Basically, the smaller rotors are denser and in some cases have more race oriented hardware.
I chose the 355 kit for a number of reasons; wheel fitment(stock 18s will fit with 10mm spacers), pad selection(one of the most common pad outlines), ability to swap pads without removing the calipers, and the fact that I already had a bunch of pads here that I could use. If anyone needs help selecting the right kit for their car, just PM me, as I did a TON of research before making a decision. For those guys looking for the ultimate in weight savings, you can even consider downsizing to a 332 kit which will probably have more braking power than stock, weigh probably 20lbs less per corner, and will fit 17s.
Anyway on to the Brembo weights;
Total weight savings over stock per corner: 15.75lbs!
Are you listening Gilligan?
Remember though, any time you take weight out of the rotor, you have less mass to absorb heat, so there is a balance when choosing the size and type of rotor. Brembo offers many different rotor ring designs in terms of fin design, density, etc. so make sure you do your homework before upgrading your brakes!
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#296
And here is why if you run Passat spindles, brake kits designed for the GTI/GolfR OEMspindles won't fit;
The OEM spindles and thinner mounting bosses:
The passat spindles are about 13mm thicker, which pulls the caliper too far inboard:
In order for the Passat spindles to work, they must be machined properly. Thankfully I have access to everything needed to do this, so it did not become a fiasco.
And before anyone says that this may be dangerous, take a look at the thickness of the TT spindle (shown earlier in this thread), where the caliper carrier mounts:
The TT alu spindle has the same thickness as the OEM cast iron spindle.
I will hopefully have the car on the road tomorrow....waiting on a new set of 18" Enkei PF01s to clear the brakes.
I'm gonna pour one for the 17s that didn't make it on to my car![]()
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#297
i agree to all and i'm thankful my R came with an RNS 510 so i don't have to upgrade![]()
the air ride is just a bad idea in a sport compact, a well engineered chassis beign cut to allow a ****ty bouncing air ride system to drop the car as low as possible and ruin the whole handling aspect of the car
#298
Interesting on spindle thickness. Would a Brembo kit designed for the Passat work without machining? Or is the geometry of the Passat different in some other way? (or are there just no kits for the Passat?)
Also, forgive me if this is a stupid question, but it looks like the bosses and the calipers are separate parts, such that the calipers can be used with a variety of different bosses, correct? Could one just use a different boss?
Last edited by Golf-Ur; 05-10-2012 at 07:18 PM.
#299
There are no Brembo kits for the vehicles utilizing the Passat spindle.
When you say "bosses", are you referring to the caliper carriers? If so, yes, you could fabricate a caliper carrier with a different offset to accomodate the Passat spindle, but I am trying the machining route first, as it could be easier and just as effective.![]()
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OMG, cost/benefit of a LOT of things we do is questionable. Aside from pulling parts off the car, how many other part *swaps* can save you at least 30 lbs? About the only thing is wheels and they too cost $1500-$2000 for a good lightweight set. This isn't horribly different (yeah, I know this isn't unsprung/rotating mass we're talking about, but it's still 30lbs).
Old - 2001 GTI 1.8T - Matchstick Red (for sale), 1997 Jetta GLX VR6 - Black
New - 2012 Golf R - CSG
#305
This is true, though the aluminum hat should also be much better at wicking away the heat than an iron equivalent. Not saying its a wash, but the aluminum doesn't just weigh less, it's way better at heat dissipation than iron/steel which helps make up some for the lost mass.
Old - 2001 GTI 1.8T - Matchstick Red (for sale), 1997 Jetta GLX VR6 - Black
New - 2012 Golf R - CSG
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what a great thread, my brain hurts, didn't retain much, and it sucks I have to learn another
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I wanna try and help Mike keep this thread clear and straight and there is NO company currently making the above mentioned B6 adapters. Guys to keep and make an effective thread you've gotta have the info to back up the words links, pics or contacts everything else is just simply fluff and creates disappointment and confusion
PM I received w/ again no answers just hollow words, like I don't know how to Google![]()
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Only Google results come up w/ a one off set that were made but not put into any level of production.
http://forums.motivemag.com/showthread.php?4866998
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-brake-upgrade
#311
Great update Mike
Now, how much loaw we should go to have straight TT arms on the mkv chassis?
Last edited by EL_3grab; 05-13-2012 at 11:56 AM.
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#312
Sorry let me dig through my PMs I talked to the guy a while ago. So I hope his PM ares still in my box.
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=311344
These brakes are the 312mm GTI rotors with the adapters and 986(non-s) calipers.
I have been searching the photos of these brakes on the B6 passat but I think the thread or pictures in the thread have been deleted. I should have saved all the install pictures/thread as a PDF.
You can goto the 330mm MB rotors with hub centric rings to keep everything balanced then run 986 Boxster-S calipers.
I sent the guy that sells these an email about getting more information.
Ill report back here when the guy send data back. Personally, Ill take 330mm 4 pot brake setup over 345mm 1 pot brake setup.
Last edited by Boosted2003!; 05-13-2012 at 01:23 PM.
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Technical Data:
4 Door DBP no Moon/Navi
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Last edited by ThatVdub; 05-13-2012 at 06:17 PM.
#314
One thing to think about is running a floating rotor setup if your going to run a fixed brake caliper. Its typically not a good idea to fixed rotor setup like most OEM companies do with a retrofitted fixed caliper setup.
Just food for thought.
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