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      03-28-2012 02:51 PM #26
      0-60 in under 6 seconds, sporty, small, seats 4, 100mi range, sub $30k.

      pretty much what im hoping for in the next tesla.

      oh and a motorcycle.
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      03-28-2012 02:54 PM #27
      Comparable pricing to regular models would help. Ford Focus E is gonna be something like almost 40k, Volt is 40k, etc. Make the car I am interested in look like a car (Volt, Focus) and price it accordingly with it's other models.

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      03-28-2012 02:55 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by hardcore4life View Post
      if it has manual transmission
      Manual transmissions were necessary to get the most out of small, high revving peaky engines. Absolutely unnecessary with an electric motor. THink ful size electric RC car. Or airplane. Do you need a manual transmission in a sport aircraft?
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      03-28-2012 02:56 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris_V View Post
      Manual transmissions were necessary to get the most out of small, high revving peaky engines. Absolutely unnecessary with an electric motor. THink ful size electric RC car. Or airplane. Do you need a manual transmission in a sport aircraft?
      Morgan electric car comes with manual transmission

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      03-28-2012 02:57 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris_V View Post
      Manual transmissions were necessary to get the most out of small, high revving peaky engines. Absolutely unnecessary with an electric motor. THink ful size electric RC car. Or airplane. Do you need a manual transmission in a sport aircraft?
      Visceral feeling vs. necessity.
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      03-28-2012 02:58 PM #31
      I'd want a computer-controlled drive train that used the instant response of the electric motor to give performance that a gasoline powered car could never match. Odds are all I want is better software -- I'll bet most of the parts already exist. Once some good programming is available, I'll go electric and never look back.

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      03-28-2012 03:00 PM #32
      charging stations at my apartment and work.

      literally, that's it.
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    8. 03-28-2012 03:03 PM #33
      What would it take to put you in an electric car?

      The electric chair.
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      03-28-2012 03:10 PM #34
      I'm not sure what it would take.... my problem is that if I'm going to buy a car *just* for commuting, I don't really want to spend over $10k, so they're all out of my price range.

      The next time I spend over $25k for a car, it'll be something purely for fun.

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      03-28-2012 03:10 PM #35
      it'd have to be cheap, used car cheap, and as basic as can be since it would just be a to work and back vehicle. I'd also either need my Catalina to spontaneously combust or a magic fairy to add more garage space to my house, and my GTI would have to just fall apart.

      My cars are all paid off, how much would gas have to become to offset a car payment?

      avg 30mpg between the car and the bike, have a 10 mi commute 5.5 days a week 50 weeks a year thats......call it 3,000 miles a year, so I need 100 ga of gas for weekly commutes. If the car cost me 15,000 over the course of 5 years to buy, gas would have to be.....$30/ga?

      hmmm......guess I'll stick with gas

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      03-28-2012 03:14 PM #36
      ~300 mile range at the minimum, 500± would be better

      I drive from DFW to Houston several times a year and need to be able to get there without stopping for an hour (best-case scenario with 480v fast chargers) for a top-up.
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    12. 03-28-2012 03:15 PM #37
      What would it take to put you in an electric car?


      only if it were a hearse, which would mean my funeral...


      I live close enough to work that if the fit hits the shan hard enough to knock it over then I can ride a pedestrain powered conveyance to work (aka bicycle).


      I am just not wanting to jump on the whole "electric car" bandwagon that a lot of people seem to be enamored with...


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      03-28-2012 03:16 PM #38
      For a car used just for commuting, I wouldn't be worried about range since my commute is 9 miles one way.

      I wouldn't buy an electric car until they drive as nice as sporty IC cars (think WRX or GTI) and are similarly priced. I don't really like the charge times, even though it wouldn't affect me. If electric cars had a common battery that could be swapped in 5 minutes that would really sway me. Then there would be "swap" stations instead of gas stations. I would pull in and swap my depleted battery with a new one and be one my way.

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      03-28-2012 03:20 PM #39
      I would like to be in an electric or extended range electric in the near future. My commute is ~40-50 miles per day with the occasional errand running afterwards so a regular electric would work great. If I keep my allroad (I will always keep the Corrado ) in this situation then a small run about would work fantastic as I could use the wagon to do my occasional hauling and car pooling while still having the Corrado for some fun driving.

      Really the only reasons I wouldn't have one right now is:

      I'm buying a house (hopefully have bought a house soon)
      Have a car loan already
      Have too many cars between me and my wife
      Lack of variety in the US market

      All of those reasons are easily fixed in the semi near future.

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      03-28-2012 03:20 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by ctrapeni View Post
      For a car used just for commuting, I wouldn't be worried about range since my commute is 9 miles one way.

      I wouldn't buy an electric car until they drive as nice as sporty IC cars (think WRX or GTI) and are similarly priced. I don't really like the charge times, even though it wouldn't affect me. If electric cars had a common battery that could be swapped in 5 minutes that would really sway me. Then there would be "swap" stations instead of gas stations. I would pull in and swap my depleted battery with a new one and be one my way.
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      03-28-2012 03:20 PM #41
      price & style....
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      03-28-2012 03:28 PM #42
      First of all, I'd need batteries that are dead reliable, which can include some form of some battery replacement program.

      I'll take cheap if it offers little else, but it doesn't have to be cheap if it offers something substantial. If it's fast and easy power upgrades are possible, then it becomes appealing in that manner. That's something that really interests me about electric motorcycles. Motorcycles have some attributes like horse riding that make riding appealing, and it'd be even more similar if quiet rides were possible.

      Also, I like how these might be incorporated into smart grids...I'd really like to see more movement in this direction.
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      03-28-2012 03:28 PM #43
      i'd be driving one now if it was

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      03-28-2012 03:29 PM #44
      If the Leaf cost $19,995 I'd buy it for the 2nd car right now.

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      03-28-2012 03:30 PM #45
      I think electric cars as commuter cars for the general population that don't give a **** about driving are a brilliant idea.

      But this concept translates into electric cars that are woefully boring, they look, and are built like the current selection of compact economy cars; an appliance to shuttle people to and from work, and hopefully make them forget they're doing something as dreary as driving. So with the current selection of electric cars (Tesla aside, and possibly the Fisker, just because it looks amazing) its pretty much like asking what would it take to put me in a car that's as exciting as a Camry, but costs a lot more, and in the case of full EVs, is a lot more inconvenient.

      So the answer is nothing, until they make something that is comparable to the current fun IC commuter cars, like the GTI, in price, sportiness, looks, features, and convenience. if I want to be economical, I can do that and still have more fun than anybody on the road with my R6, so I'll stick to that.

      Don't get me wrong, as I said, I think hybrids and EVs are brilliant for the general population, they just aren't for me as they sit currently.
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      03-28-2012 03:30 PM #46
      at least one of these


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      03-28-2012 03:35 PM #47
      The range (200-500 miles), initial purchase price (equivalent to popular family- or performance-oriented brands), rock-solid reliability, reasonable recharge time on the road (5-10 minutes or less) ongoing economics (no multi-thousand-dollar battery purchase down the road), affordable insurability, mid- to high-performance numbers (equivalent to V6 power, not econoboxes), and transparency of driving experience equivalent to an affordable, mid-pack ICE vehicle, plus class-leading bodywork and interior design that, as I drive by, would make children point, women grow moist, and other men insanely jealous.

      Not saying any or all are currently, or even hypothetically, attainable in one vehicle, but that's what it would take for me...

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      03-28-2012 03:39 PM #48
      A free Fisker Karma.
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    24. 03-28-2012 03:42 PM #49
      It needs to have:

      Same options and creature comforts of today's ICE cars

      Same pricing structure of modern ICE cars

      Same weight as modern ICE cars

      Same driving range as today's ICE cars

      Same performance as today's ICE cars

      Can't take 4 hours to recharge - so, better infrastructure

      Its going to be a loooong time before we get there. Hopefully some of the alternative ICE motors will gain some traction with OEMs to bridge the gap between today and the day that electrics aren't heavy, expensive, range limited, and smug.
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      03-28-2012 03:43 PM #50
      Some combination of $8 a gallon gas, an extra garage bay to park it in, and enough money to make 3 car payments reasonable.

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