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      04-18-2012 10:10 AM #141
      Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
      Free market at work. Is it surprising that large corporations don't give a **** about your health? Government doesn't care either, half the country doesn't want the gov't meddling with their lives anyway, even if that meant not providing the necessary regulations to provide safe healthy food.
      Since when are subsidized industries a product of the free market?
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      04-18-2012 10:16 AM #142
      I'm chock full o' nuts right now.


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      04-18-2012 10:29 AM #143
      Nuts in coffee? Yuck.
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      04-18-2012 10:32 AM #144
      Sticky buns and Powerade .



      Normally its granola bars and Iced Tea unsweeted , but was running late

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      04-18-2012 10:34 AM #145
      Quote Originally Posted by Chilledman View Post
      Sticky buns and Powerade .



      Normally its granola bars and Iced Tea unsweeted , but was running late
      Nothing wrong with sweetened tea, as long as it uses real sugar

      This is my shiz.

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      04-18-2012 10:36 AM #146
      Quote Originally Posted by zaYG View Post
      Nothing wrong with sweetened tea, as long as it uses real sugar
      Yeah right....you should try the **** they try to pass off as sweet tea down here. The **** rots your teeth in 8 minutes. No tea taste whatsoever. Bleh.
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      04-18-2012 10:39 AM #147
      Quote Originally Posted by ATL_Av8r View Post
      Nuts in coffee? Yuck.
      It's 100% coffee and 0% nuts.

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      04-18-2012 10:43 AM #148
      Quote Originally Posted by Der Schaltwerks View Post
      It's 100% coffee and 0% nuts.
      So false advertising? WTF?
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      04-18-2012 10:45 AM #149
      Quote Originally Posted by ATL_Av8r View Post
      So false advertising? WTF?


      Do you think they put blue bunnies in the ice cream?

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      04-18-2012 10:48 AM #150
      Quote Originally Posted by ATL_Av8r View Post
      Yeah right....you should try the **** they try to pass off as sweet tea down here. The **** rots your teeth in 8 minutes. No tea taste whatsoever. Bleh.


      I'm not a fan of sweet tea, but that stuff isn't that bad^^

      And to chime in on my opinion, at least on the topic of HFCS, you don't have a choice on what you can buy. I don't simply have the choice to not spend money on HFCS products, because it is subsidized through my taxes. If you were to ask every person in this nation without a vested interest in the corn industry whether they wanted HFCS to be subsidized or if they would rather let cane sugar be the norm, then I can guarantee which answer you would get 99 out of 100 times.
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      04-18-2012 10:53 AM #151
      Quote Originally Posted by Der Schaltwerks View Post


      Do you think they put blue bunnies in the ice cream?
      Well, if they used enough food coloring.....
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      04-18-2012 10:55 AM #152
      Its either this tea
      http://www.peaceicedtea.com/

      or
      Turkey Hill Diet Ice Tea - what ever flavor kind they have

      If its not either of those two then its just normal unsweetened ice tea.

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      04-18-2012 10:58 AM #153
      Quote Originally Posted by Chilledman View Post
      Its either this tea
      http://www.peaceicedtea.com/

      or
      Turkey Hill Diet Ice Tea - what ever flavor kind they have

      If its not either of those two then its just normal unsweetened ice tea.
      Peace tea isn't bad, I still prefer tradewinds.

      Some of the Honest Teas are alright too. Some taste like ass.

      It's sad...most of the good peach teas are all artificial as hell
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      04-18-2012 11:01 AM #154
      i am a banana. and later i will be a tilapia.

    15. 04-30-2012 04:38 AM #155
      Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
      Hmmm, a Brazilian study, one from UCLA, and other. Brazil is a large exporter of cane sugar,
      There have been more than three studies that have found issues with Stevia.
      UCLA's research probably funded by ADM...
      Do you have any evidence? Was the original ban on Stevia in the US also due to conspiracy? Besides, UCLA's point about true lifetime studies in both mice and rats doesn't seem to be related to pushing sugar, does it? It's supposed to be standard procedure.
      you know so people aren't suspicious like if ADM funded the University of Iowa to do the research instead. The other I have no idea, sounds South American too, so more proponents of cane sugar.
      Well, CSPI says trichlorosucrose ("sucralose/Splenda") is probably safe, which I disagree with since it gives me muscular twitches and it is digested and absorbed despite the false claims of its manufacturer. If CSPI, which is the main promulgator of the UCLA toxicologists' opinions was biased toward cane sugar, that would better support your argument. CSPI, though, isn't.
      Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
      Japan doesn't seem to have problems with it, granted they are weird sometimes but I assume that's due to the stringent social standards they have to deal with on a constant daily basis. So coming up with weird **** is their way of breaking the mold.
      Japan isn't as stringent as people think. For instance, rice has been polished with talc in Japan, leading to stomach cancer from asbestos in the talc. Japan is interesting, because the Japanese tend to have very high standards in many ways but can also have pretty major blind spots (like the talc and smoking).

      And, as I've explained, DNA damage is not something that is easily detected necessarily—particularly outside of lab testing. DNA damage's symptoms = aging.

      I would be thrilled if Stevia extracts were to be tested fully and found to be safe. I hoped trichlorosucrose would be and paid the price for excessive optimism in twitching and other symptoms. The basic problem seems to be that there just is no free lunch. There is no safe sweetener, beyond what we get from whole fruit (and not all fruits, as dates are too sugary for diabetics). I don't get twitching from Stevia, which is such an obvious and replicable symptom that I have no doubt about trichlorosucrose's questionability. But, I do feel malaise after consuming rebiana (rebaudioside A) products. I've tried the orange juice and also cookies made with Truvia.

      Research has found that the body isn't fooled by high-intensity non-caloric sweeteners. It will continue to crave the calories one normally gets from sugar. This makes the consumption of these products questionable without even taking into account potential toxicity. They lead to increased caloric intake and thus weight gain, due to the body's craving reinforcement, according to some research. I don't know if this is true for all of them, rather than just some such as aspartame, but I assume it does since they're non-caloric.

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      04-30-2012 09:42 AM #156
      Turkey Hill White Peach Tea - Diet
      Nature Valley Oats and Honey

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      I am gas station donut and Dr. Pepper!

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      04-30-2012 10:38 AM #158
      I am.... shoofly pie and white tea.

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      04-30-2012 10:43 AM #159
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      04-30-2012 12:30 PM #160
      'cause sugar is sugar. Your body doesnt know the difference'

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      04-30-2012 12:35 PM #161
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      Organic spring mix lettuce/spinach.
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      Rockland Bakery salt bagel.
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      04-30-2012 12:38 PM #162
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkEnergist View Post
      Rockland Bakery salt bagel.
      i stopped by there Saturday evening to get bread for breakfast on Sunday.

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      04-30-2012 01:42 PM #163
      ohhhh Rockland bakery I was there last Saturday and got rolls !

      Best freaking bakery ever !

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      04-30-2012 02:18 PM #164
      amazing that people get so upset when someone points out that the majority of the food in this country is terrible for you, and heavily subsidized.

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      04-30-2012 04:26 PM #165
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      amazing that people get so upset when someone points out that the majority of the food in this country is terrible for you, and heavily subsidized.
      I expect then that you won't be the one flaming my "The sky is blue, America" rant thread?

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      04-30-2012 04:36 PM #166
      Quote Originally Posted by rlsib16 View Post
      i stopped by there Saturday evening to get bread for breakfast on Sunday.
      Quote Originally Posted by Chilledman View Post
      ohhhh Rockland bakery I was there last Saturday and got rolls !

      Best freaking bakery ever !
      OT BREAD GTG!

      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      amazing that people get so upset when someone points out that the majority of the food in this country is terrible for you, and heavily subsidized.
      I'm not upset. I know that so much of the food most people eat is awful. However the choice is up to the individual to stop buying and eating the sh*t, and buy and eat good stuff.

      In my opinion, more people need to be cooking. You have so much more control over the food you eat, how its prepared, etc. And...I'm sorry if it seems crazy but...I love to cook.
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      04-30-2012 04:36 PM #167
      Quote Originally Posted by TheGreenspanator View Post
      I expect then that you won't be the one flaming my "The sky is blue, America" rant thread?
      i havent been paying much attention to OT lately, so i probably missed that one...


      Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkEnergist View Post
      I'm not upset. I know that so much of the food most people eat is awful. However the choice is up to the individual to stop buying and eating the sh*t, and buy and eat good stuff.
      just odd that when the obvious is pointed out, someone would get so defensive. not speaking about you specifically, but just what i noticed glancing through this thread...

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      04-30-2012 04:40 PM #168
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post

      just odd that when the obvious is pointed out, someone would get so defensive. not speaking about you specifically, but just what i noticed glancing through this thread...
      Its most of us are tired of OG the sky is falling BS

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      04-30-2012 04:42 PM #169
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post


      just odd that when the obvious is pointed out, someone would get so defensive. not speaking about you specifically, but just what i noticed glancing through this thread...
      It's about 98% WHO posted it. Not what he/it posted.

      Also, think about this:

      when the obvious is pointed out
      ...Nobody likes that. Nobody.
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      04-30-2012 04:55 PM #170
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkEnergist View Post
      Also, think about this:

      ...Nobody likes that. Nobody.
      really?
      because the other normal reaction could also be "oh, i hadnt considered that".

      not "f_ck you man, hamburgers are healthy!!".

      whatever though

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      04-30-2012 04:58 PM #171
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      really?
      because the other normal reaction could also be "oh, i hadnt considered that".

      not "f_ck you man, hamburgers are healthy!!".

      whatever though
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      04-30-2012 04:58 PM #172
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkEnergist View Post
      It's about 98% WHO posted it. Not what he/it posted.
      ^^This. He's like a yapper dog. Dog looks out the window, sees people jogging, starts barking its head off. You look out the window, see it's just people jogging, attempt to return to watching TV. Dog can't understand why you aren't also freaking the hell out that there are people jogging outside, barks louder and crazier, and bounces off your repeatedly head while you're trying to watch TV. You try to ignore it, but eventually it's so annoying that you start yelling at it to shut the **** up. Then the dog bites you. /story

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      04-30-2012 05:07 PM #173
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkEnergist View Post
      OT BREAD GTG!
      oh how I miss Rockland bakery!! I get it every time I'm home usually. side note.. contractor I worked with during the summers back in HS recently worked on the owners house.. massive.. like private bowling/indoor pool.. paid him all in bricks of cash money
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      04-30-2012 05:21 PM #174
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      really?
      because the other normal reaction could also be "oh, i hadnt considered that".

      whatever though
      Go tell a person smoking a cigarette that cigarettes are bad for them and see what happens.

      Go tell a guy who crashes his car that he shouldn't have crashed his car.

      People don't come to Off Topic to be told by a stranger how wrong they are in their everyday lives. Hamburgers aren't healthy, but I probably won't fall over and die of a coronary if I have one on my birthday.

      Here's the difference: Some people actually HAVE considered what they're eating and they do things differently in an attempt to align themselves with a healthier lifestyle. So telling people in this "shame on you, wag of the finger" manner isn't going to garner a positive reaction.
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      04-30-2012 05:30 PM #175
      I used to get my Rockland Bakery fix at Remsen Farms (R.I.P.) back when I was a kid. Yummy rolls.
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