You are what you eat, America

[zaYG]

Free market at work. Is it surprising that large corporations don't give a **** about your health? Government doesn't care either, half the country doesn't want the gov't meddling with their lives anyway, even if that meant not providing the necessary regulations to provide safe healthy food.

Since when are subsidized industries a product of the free market?

[Der Schaltwerks]

I'm chock full o' nuts right now.

[ATL_Av8r]

Nuts in coffee? Yuck.

[Chilledman]

Sticky buns and Powerade .



Normally its granola bars and Iced Tea unsweeted , but was running late

[zaYG]

Sticky buns and Powerade .



Normally its granola bars and Iced Tea unsweeted , but was running late

Nothing wrong with sweetened tea, as long as it uses real sugar

This is my shiz.

[ATL_Av8r]

Nothing wrong with sweetened tea, as long as it uses real sugar

Yeah right....you should try the **** they try to pass off as sweet tea down here. The **** rots your teeth in 8 minutes. No tea taste whatsoever. Bleh.

[Der Schaltwerks]

Nuts in coffee? Yuck.

It's 100% coffee and 0% nuts.

[ATL_Av8r]

It's 100% coffee and 0% nuts.

So false advertising? WTF?

[Der Schaltwerks]

So false advertising? WTF?

Do you think they put blue bunnies in the ice cream?

[zaYG]

Yeah right....you should try the **** they try to pass off as sweet tea down here. The **** rots your teeth in 8 minutes. No tea taste whatsoever. Bleh.

I'm not a fan of sweet tea, but that stuff isn't that bad^^

And to chime in on my opinion, at least on the topic of HFCS, you don't have a choice on what you can buy. I don't simply have the choice to not spend money on HFCS products, because it is subsidized through my taxes. If you were to ask every person in this nation without a vested interest in the corn industry whether they wanted HFCS to be subsidized or if they would rather let cane sugar be the norm, then I can guarantee which answer you would get 99 out of 100 times.

[ATL_Av8r]

Do you think they put blue bunnies in the ice cream?

Well, if they used enough food coloring.....

[Chilledman]

Its either this tea
http://www.peaceicedtea.com/

or
Turkey Hill Diet Ice Tea - what ever flavor kind they have

If its not either of those two then its just normal unsweetened ice tea.

[zaYG]

Its either this tea
http://www.peaceicedtea.com/

or
Turkey Hill Diet Ice Tea - what ever flavor kind they have

If its not either of those two then its just normal unsweetened ice tea.

Peace tea isn't bad, I still prefer tradewinds.

Some of the Honest Teas are alright too. Some taste like ass.

It's sad...most of the good peach teas are all artificial as hell

[dubb~stylee]

i am a banana. and later i will be a tilapia.

[O_G]

Hmmm, a Brazilian study, one from UCLA, and other. Brazil is a large exporter of cane sugar,

There have been more than three studies that have found issues with Stevia.

UCLA's research probably funded by ADM...

Do you have any evidence? Was the original ban on Stevia in the US also due to conspiracy? Besides, UCLA's point about true lifetime studies in both mice and rats doesn't seem to be related to pushing sugar, does it? It's supposed to be standard procedure.

you know so people aren't suspicious like if ADM funded the University of Iowa to do the research instead. The other I have no idea, sounds South American too, so more proponents of cane sugar.

Well, CSPI says trichlorosucrose ("sucralose/Splenda") is probably safe, which I disagree with since it gives me muscular twitches and it is digested and absorbed despite the false claims of its manufacturer. If CSPI, which is the main promulgator of the UCLA toxicologists' opinions was biased toward cane sugar, that would better support your argument. CSPI, though, isn't.

Japan doesn't seem to have problems with it, granted they are weird sometimes but I assume that's due to the stringent social standards they have to deal with on a constant daily basis. So coming up with weird **** is their way of breaking the mold.

Japan isn't as stringent as people think. For instance, rice has been polished with talc in Japan, leading to stomach cancer from asbestos in the talc. Japan is interesting, because the Japanese tend to have very high standards in many ways but can also have pretty major blind spots (like the talc and smoking).

And, as I've explained, DNA damage is not something that is easily detected necessarily—particularly outside of lab testing. DNA damage's symptoms = aging.

I would be thrilled if Stevia extracts were to be tested fully and found to be safe. I hoped trichlorosucrose would be and paid the price for excessive optimism in twitching and other symptoms. The basic problem seems to be that there just is no free lunch. There is no safe sweetener, beyond what we get from whole fruit (and not all fruits, as dates are too sugary for diabetics). I don't get twitching from Stevia, which is such an obvious and replicable symptom that I have no doubt about trichlorosucrose's questionability. But, I do feel malaise after consuming rebiana (rebaudioside A) products. I've tried the orange juice and also cookies made with Truvia.

Research has found that the body isn't fooled by high-intensity non-caloric sweeteners. It will continue to crave the calories one normally gets from sugar. This makes the consumption of these products questionable without even taking into account potential toxicity. They lead to increased caloric intake and thus weight gain, due to the body's craving reinforcement, according to some research. I don't know if this is true for all of them, rather than just some such as aspartame, but I assume it does since they're non-caloric.

[Chilledman]

Turkey Hill White Peach Tea - Diet
Nature Valley Oats and Honey

[winstonsmith84]

I am gas station donut and Dr. Pepper!

[TheGreenspanator]

I am.... shoofly pie and white tea.

[Braga_Dub]

I am a Cuban sandwich with a Cortado.

[mozcar78]

'cause sugar is sugar. Your body doesnt know the difference'

[TheDarkEnergist]

Garlic and olive oil chicken.
Organic spring mix lettuce/spinach.
New York Extra Sharp Cheddar.
Olive oil mayo.
Gulden's Mustard.
Rockland Bakery salt bagel.

[rlsib16]

Rockland Bakery salt bagel.

i stopped by there Saturday evening to get bread for breakfast on Sunday.

[Chilledman]

ohhhh Rockland bakery I was there last Saturday and got rolls !

Best freaking bakery ever !

[ValveCoverGasket]

amazing that people get so upset when someone points out that the majority of the food in this country is terrible for you, and heavily subsidized.

[TheGreenspanator]

amazing that people get so upset when someone points out that the majority of the food in this country is terrible for you, and heavily subsidized.

I expect then that you won't be the one flaming my "The sky is blue, America" rant thread?

[TheDarkEnergist]

i stopped by there Saturday evening to get bread for breakfast on Sunday.

ohhhh Rockland bakery I was there last Saturday and got rolls !

Best freaking bakery ever !

OT BREAD GTG!

amazing that people get so upset when someone points out that the majority of the food in this country is terrible for you, and heavily subsidized.

I'm not upset. I know that so much of the food most people eat is awful. However the choice is up to the individual to stop buying and eating the sh*t, and buy and eat good stuff.

In my opinion, more people need to be cooking. You have so much more control over the food you eat, how its prepared, etc. And...I'm sorry if it seems crazy but...I love to cook.

[ValveCoverGasket]

I expect then that you won't be the one flaming my "The sky is blue, America" rant thread?

i havent been paying much attention to OT lately, so i probably missed that one...

I'm not upset. I know that so much of the food most people eat is awful. However the choice is up to the individual to stop buying and eating the sh*t, and buy and eat good stuff.

just odd that when the obvious is pointed out, someone would get so defensive. not speaking about you specifically, but just what i noticed glancing through this thread...

[Chilledman]

just odd that when the obvious is pointed out, someone would get so defensive. not speaking about you specifically, but just what i noticed glancing through this thread...

Its most of us are tired of OG the sky is falling BS

[TheDarkEnergist]

just odd that when the obvious is pointed out, someone would get so defensive. not speaking about you specifically, but just what i noticed glancing through this thread...

It's about 98% WHO posted it. Not what he/it posted.

Also, think about this:

when the obvious is pointed out

...Nobody likes that. Nobody.

[ValveCoverGasket]

Also, think about this:

...Nobody likes that. Nobody.

really?
because the other normal reaction could also be "oh, i hadnt considered that".

not "f_ck you man, hamburgers are healthy!!".

whatever though

[Chilledman]

really?
because the other normal reaction could also be "oh, i hadnt considered that".

not "f_ck you man, hamburgers are healthy!!".

whatever though

......

[TheGreenspanator]

It's about 98% WHO posted it. Not what he/it posted.

^^This. He's like a yapper dog. Dog looks out the window, sees people jogging, starts barking its head off. You look out the window, see it's just people jogging, attempt to return to watching TV. Dog can't understand why you aren't also freaking the hell out that there are people jogging outside, barks louder and crazier, and bounces off your repeatedly head while you're trying to watch TV. You try to ignore it, but eventually it's so annoying that you start yelling at it to shut the **** up. Then the dog bites you. /story

[Jiffycake!]

OT BREAD GTG!

oh how I miss Rockland bakery!! I get it every time I'm home usually. side note.. contractor I worked with during the summers back in HS recently worked on the owners house.. massive.. like private bowling/indoor pool.. paid him all in bricks of cash money

[TheDarkEnergist]

really?
because the other normal reaction could also be "oh, i hadnt considered that".

whatever though

Go tell a person smoking a cigarette that cigarettes are bad for them and see what happens.

Go tell a guy who crashes his car that he shouldn't have crashed his car.

People don't come to Off Topic to be told by a stranger how wrong they are in their everyday lives. Hamburgers aren't healthy, but I probably won't fall over and die of a coronary if I have one on my birthday.

Here's the difference: Some people actually HAVE considered what they're eating and they do things differently in an attempt to align themselves with a healthier lifestyle. So telling people in this "shame on you, wag of the finger" manner isn't going to garner a positive reaction.

[simple]

I used to get my Rockland Bakery fix at Remsen Farms (R.I.P.) back when I was a kid. Yummy rolls.