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    1. Member
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      Apr 6th, 2008
      1981 Jetta 16v, 1977 Scirocco
      04-01-2012 07:36 PM #1
      I just finished up an automatic to standard swap
      I've connected the power wires from under the shifter
      I wired up the starter and cranked it; the starter engaged, but it sounded like the gear wasn't connecting to the flywheel, like it was just spinning freely
      I assumed the shaft design in the starter gear was to blame, so I took the starter out and put a diesel mk3 starter in it, with a short gear on that doesn't have a shaft extending out beyond the gear
      But when I turned the key, nothing happened
      Not even a click
      So I took it out, tried another starter identical to the first one, but that one did the same thing
      I thought maybe both starters were pooched, so I put the first starter back back in (the one that spins)
      But when I tried to crank again, nothing happened

      I can't see any dead fuses, or any wires out of place or disconnected
      To make things weirder, the headlights and interior fan don't turn on when the key is turned to accessory position
      Would that have anything to do with it?

      Any help would be awesome
      Last edited by ArsenicPants; 04-01-2012 at 07:40 PM.

    2. Member Chev2dub's Avatar
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      Feb 12th, 2008
      not a good point not a bad point but a fairpoint
      07 2.0t passat 84 GLI 16v CIS-M~
      04-01-2012 08:24 PM #2
      Sounds silly but check and make sure all your connections are connected... double check your ground on the trans and battery and On the fendwall as well.

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      1981 Jetta 16v, 1977 Scirocco
      04-02-2012 12:39 AM #3
      thanks for the suggestion
      I went over all the connections from switch to starter, battery terminals and grounds and everything looks good
      i checked the ignition computer and the connector was disconnected
      i connected it, but still no go
      I also cut out the extended power wire that goes to the shifter and just wired it straight to the wire to the engine bay, but still nothing

      the lights do not work, and neither does the emergency flasher

      during the swap from automatic to manual I also swapped in a 16v and a knock box
      as far as I can tell the knock box wiring should have nothing to do with the main power engaging, am i correct?

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      Apr 6th, 2008
      1981 Jetta 16v, 1977 Scirocco
      04-02-2012 11:54 PM #4
      i suck

      the battery is dead

      i figured it couldn't be since it's only been unplugged for a few weeks
      but i put another one on there, and it's almost dead too, but the starter tries to turn over


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