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    Thread: Reasons to not buy an RS4

    1. Member xtravbx's Avatar
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      04-03-2012 02:14 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by David@vwvortex View Post
      I know of some compaines that are working on fuel additives that will limit/break this stuff up specifically for these FSI motors. I guess the S5 motor as well has the same problem as the RS4.

      The problem being is if the fuel additives work too quickly, from my understanding, and break this gunk up it can cause some serious issues w/the valves not seating properly and you losing compression. Not a good thing.

      Having said that, if you are comfortable w/that issue then by all means get one b/c they are amazing cars to drive. The chains/guides I'd honestly not worry about b/c that's a way longer term wear item.


      How would fuel additives work when fuel is not even passing over the air intake valves.....

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      04-03-2012 02:18 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by compy222 View Post


      perhaps an alternative for similar money?
      A quick search shows used V's starting in the low 50's.... how I wish they were cheaper, though.

      Really not a big fan of the E9x M3, they can be had in the same price range as the RS4, though.
      Last edited by SVTDanny; 04-03-2012 at 02:20 PM.

    3. 04-03-2012 02:20 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      A quick search shows used V's starting in the low 50's.... how I wish they were cheaper, though.

      Really not a big fan of the E9x M3, they can be had in the same price range as the RS4, though.
      http://www.carmax.com/enus/view-car/...7-b04b10aa73c1

      Only problem is that it's an automatic :-(
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      04-03-2012 02:25 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain EX View Post
      http://www.carmax.com/enus/view-car/...7-b04b10aa73c1

      Only problem is that it's an automatic :-(
      Whoa.

      A tragedy indeed....

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      04-03-2012 02:26 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      A quick search shows used V's starting in the low 50's.... how I wish they were cheaper, though.

      Really not a big fan of the E9x M3, they can be had in the same price range as the RS4, though.
      good point. what price range are we looking in? if so, the BMW is worth looking at...not going to be that much more reliable than the Audi though. cool thing about the V is the 100k powertrain warranty...what about any of the older ones? the earlier LSx ones are very capable too...
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      04-03-2012 02:27 PM #31
      You forgot the DRC! If it's anywhere similar to what's on the RS6, it's a complete pile of garbage even when it was brand new. The RS6's DRC system was recalled and even the fix that was provided didn't solve all of the problems. Again, I'm not sure of the exact details on the RS4, but I heard they were the same system.

      Edit: Quick search leads me to believe it's the same:

      http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ew-Rev-B-parts

      http://forums.audiworld.com/showthread.php?t=2599749

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      04-03-2012 02:29 PM #32
      Apparently the newer DRC recall is good to go. If not, nothing a set of coils can't remedy.

      Pass on the first gen V. The LSA is what makes that car for me.

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      04-03-2012 02:36 PM #33
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      Nice video. Me personally... water-meth and call it a day. yolo
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      04-03-2012 02:36 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
      Yes it does. Lol maybe if your trying to run 83 with it. Especially if you keep your fuel and air filters clean.

      I know people that have tried it... it doesn't do anything. If you knew how the meth actually works and atomizes you would understand why it wouldn't work.
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      04-03-2012 02:47 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR View Post
      I know people that have tried it... it doesn't do anything. If you knew how the meth actually works and atomizes you would understand why it wouldn't work.
      Im not getting into this. I know it helps, just like thousands of others know it helps, on top off all the mfg claim it helps. Maybe it does, maybe it doesnt, it sure as hell works for everything else claimed.
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      04-03-2012 02:51 PM #36
      People have run water/meth on their RS4's, it doesn't help.

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      04-03-2012 03:11 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by kevin fakin splits View Post
      im not getting into this. I know it helps, just like thousands of others know it helps, on top off all the mfg claim it helps. Maybe it does, maybe it doesnt, it sure as hell works for everything else claimed.
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    13. 04-03-2012 04:47 PM #38
      What about running an e85 based set up, would that compliment the valve stems more efficiently than the Meth setup?

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      04-03-2012 05:00 PM #39
      A ton of misinformation in this thread.

      OP, RS4's generally don't suffer from the same timing component problems that V8 S4's do. The guides/tensioners have updated parts. TBH, it was mostly 04 and 05 S4's that see most of the problems with timing components in general.

      In regard to the carbon build up, its a DIY job. Or you can pay a few hundred bucks every ~10k miles to have it cleaned. JHMotorsports is supposedly testing a solution that prevents carbon build up.

      Also RS4 + bolt ons =12.2 @ 111 mph 1/4 mile

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      I would kick that mechanic so hard, his nuts would give him black eyes.

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      04-03-2012 05:08 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      why should I not make a B7 RS4 my next car?
      A friend has one as his daily. He found the quotes to do the carbon cleaning outrageous, so he did it himself; about 5hrs. He said it wasn't difficult, but tedious.

      The only other things he's mentioned are:

      Brakes and replacement brake components are expensive b/c they are unique to that car (and the Gallardo I think).

      OEM stock parts (wheels for instance) are really expensive and near impossible to find used.

      Not much information exists for DIY projects since most owners are wealthy and they just pay other people to fix the car when it breaks.



      They do sound glorious though

    16. 04-03-2012 05:16 PM #41
      I didn't think the RS4 was all that fast personally.
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      04-03-2012 05:39 PM #42
      I love the RS4 but think its outdated. The B8 S4, E9X M3 sedan or even the 335i would be cars I would check out too though the 335i are everywhere.

    18. 04-05-2012 02:48 PM #43
      My everyday commute would include a italian tune up.

      which will segway into the next CON of the RS4.....


      MPG, esp compared to a B8 3.0T S4
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      04-05-2012 04:02 PM #44
      Not really concerned with fuel mileage. I average 15-16 with my B5, but I only fill up every 2-3 weeks.

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      04-05-2012 09:33 PM #45
      I have a B7RS4, original owner since June 2006. So some info:

      1. Carbon cleaning -- I get it done every year or two. Time consuming, but not horrible.
      2. Gas Mileage -- I get 17 city / 23 highway, which is far better than the 14/19 that my friends with E90 m3's get. Although, they don't get carbon buildup.
      3. Parts -- really not so bad, since many parts are shared with A4's. With the right connections, it's also pretty easy to get OEM parts at dealer cost (I do).
      4. Ease of maintenance -- I find it to be pretty easy to take care of, and mine is almost 6 years old with 51,000 miles on it.

      I find the car a hell of a lot more fun than the B8S4. That said, an E90 m3 is also a great choice.

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      04-05-2012 09:47 PM #46
      +1 for the 2013 S4, ordering just started, i voted with my wallet on the 2012 S4, absolutely no regrets, all glitches, like the water pump, rear diff seal, brake squeal, clutch noise sorted out over the previous years.




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      04-05-2012 10:09 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by Kandiru View Post
      +1 for the 2013 S4, ordering just started, i voted with my wallet on the 2012 S4, absolutely no regrets, all glitches, like the water pump, rear diff seal, brake squeal, clutch noise sorted out over the previous years.

      Sorry to say, the B8 is terribly ugly, I'd go as far to say one of the ugliest cars on the road today. That picture is especially bad.... combine that with the ghetto fabulous LED DRL's.... no thanks. Maybe I'm crazy, but you know what they say about opinions.

    23. 04-05-2012 10:37 PM #48
      who cares ^^^^, it's really not that fast for all that extra coin, that's the pickle.
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      04-06-2012 12:07 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by noznab View Post
      A ton of misinformation in this thread.

      In regard to the carbon build up, its a DIY job. Or you can pay a few hundred bucks every ~10k miles to have it cleaned.
      With my much simpler 2.0T I am interested in where you could get the carbon build up removed for a few hundred bucks. Seems impossible to do this in 2-3 hours.

      With the RS4 I am assuming it would take far longer and cost much more.

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      04-06-2012 12:50 AM #50
      Can't think of any reasons why not to buy an RS4. It's a compelling choice. Though the new B8 S4's would tempt me if the price difference were close enough.
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