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      04-06-2012 07:40 AM #51
      I would bypass the RS4, and just pick up a DTM S4 for way less dough.


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      04-06-2012 08:05 AM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      ...the B8 is terribly ugly, I'd go as far to say one of the ugliest cars on the road today....
      That's all I've got.

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      04-06-2012 08:18 AM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by der Scherzkeks View Post
      That's all I've got.
      Quoting out of context, goes along well with Audi fanboyism I see.

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      04-06-2012 08:44 AM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      Quoting out of context, goes along well with Audi fanboyism I see.
      To be fair to you, what were you trying to say? Seems like you directly said it was one of the ugliest cars on the road. Maybe you don't think it is the best, but one of the ugliest?

      Where's the context we are missing?


      Sorry to say, the B8 is terribly ugly, I'd go as far to say one of the ugliest cars on the road today. That picture is especially bad.... combine that with the ghetto fabulous LED DRL's.... no thanks. Maybe I'm crazy, but you know what they say about opinions.
      Last edited by dmorrow; 04-06-2012 at 08:54 AM.

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      04-06-2012 08:49 AM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by Anthony@VMG View Post
      The stock B8 S4 is as fast as the B7 RS 4 under almost all circumstances.

      I loved my RS 4, but it is an old car now, and it was a pig. I also would not own one out of warranty.

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      You couldn't give me a b7 rs4. Out of warranty time bomb waiting to happen. B8 s4 is the way to go.

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      04-06-2012 09:00 AM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by noznab View Post
      A ton of misinformation in this thread.

      OP, RS4's generally don't suffer from the same timing component problems that V8 S4's do. The guides/tensioners have updated parts. TBH, it was mostly 04 and 05 S4's that see most of the problems with timing components in general.

      In regard to the carbon build up, its a DIY job. Or you can pay a few hundred bucks every ~10k miles to have it cleaned. JHMotorsports is supposedly testing a solution that prevents carbon build up.
      Is it true the build up is caused by the crankcase and valve covers being vented through the intake?


      unrelated question
      as people mentioned the v8 s4, once the chains and tentioners have been changed, they are good for the rest of the life of the engine, as most chains are? or has the issue not been fixed with updated parts

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      04-06-2012 09:02 AM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by dmorrow View Post
      To be fair to you, what were you trying to say? Seems like you directly said it was one of the ugliest cars on the road. Maybe you don't think it is the best, but one of the ugliest?
      I did say that, but in the very next sentence, I state that it's just my opinion and that I realize it may not be widely shared.

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      04-06-2012 09:14 AM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      I did say that, but in the very next sentence, I state that it's just my opinion and that I realize it may not be widely shared.
      Your opinon has rendered me speechless. You really think that the A4 is one of the ugliest cars on the road? In a world of Nissan Cube, Scion Xb, Subaru Tribeca, Toyota Yaris, and Chevrolet Sonic, you think B8 A4 is in the same ballpark?

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      04-06-2012 09:15 AM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by der Scherzkeks View Post
      Your opinon has rendered me speechless. You really think that the A4 is one of the ugliest cars on the road? In a world of Nissan Cube, Scion Xb, Subaru Tribeca, Toyota Yaris, and Chevrolet Sonic, you think B8 A4 is in the same ballpark?
      Yes. Sorry to offend you, but this is hideous:


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      04-06-2012 09:44 AM #60
      I love B7 RS4's!


    11. 04-06-2012 09:54 AM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
      If buildup is such a huge issue with the v8 just run watermeth and that will clean the buildup right out, and prevent it from happening.

      In all honesty I think something like this may be a longer term solution than just "decarboning" every 20-30k. What about an injection system that runs essentially on demand, and injected something like an acetone/atf solution, or anything else that would help keep the intake and valves clear. Im aware water/meth wont work, but i think all it may need is something that actually dissolved the buildup.

      Its fairly clear that the main issue with many DI engines is carbon buildup in the intake/valves, and unless you rip out all the emissions controls/egr, etc, Im sure this will continue to be an issue.

      but back to the main question, I would say the main reason not to get it is because there are alot of cars out there that may be less "raw" but perform almost as well with less issues.

      Personally I would take a 335i with a chip, and extended warrenty for the fuel pump, and call it a day. I like the RS4, but IMO the B6, and B7 chassis cars seem very dated compared to the B8, and its competition.
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      04-06-2012 09:59 AM #62
      You like the looks of the B7 RS4 – enough to strongly consider buying one over its distinct disadvantages – but think the B8 S4 is the ugliest car on the road?

      I really don't know what to say.
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      04-06-2012 10:16 AM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Woo View Post
      You like the looks of the B7 RS4 – enough to strongly consider buying one over its distinct disadvantages – but think the B8 S4 is the ugliest car on the road?

      I really don't know what to say.
      Regardless of looks, the B7 RS4 is quite a bit different than a B8 S4. By "stepping up," you lose the V8, the widebody, and the rarity factor - the top three things that are drawing me to the RS4.

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      04-06-2012 10:17 AM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Woo View Post
      You like the looks of the B7 RS4 – enough to strongly consider buying one over its distinct disadvantages – but think the B8 S4 is the ugliest car on the road?

      I really don't know what to say.
      The refreshed B8 S4 is pretty ugly. The pre-refresh looks a lot better.

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      04-06-2012 10:23 AM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      The refreshed B8 S4 is pretty ugly. The pre-refresh looks a lot better.
      This is a B8 S4, HOW DARE YOU?

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      04-06-2012 10:57 AM #66
      Don't want to be racist but, all audi's look the same.
      pardon my 'merican

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      04-06-2012 11:00 AM #67
      Step 1: Make thread asking for opinions
      Step 2: Criticize everyone's opinion

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      04-06-2012 11:25 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by InternetMeme View Post
      Step 1: Make thread asking for opinions
      Step 2: Criticize everyone's opinion
      welcome to the vw/ audi community

    19. 04-06-2012 11:55 AM #69
      amazingly hyped up car with avg performance figures esp for the segment

      -no faster than an e46 m3 in the straights, worse in the turns and just about everything else
      -staid audi commuter sedan looks
      -stupid engine placement
      -what you already pointed out

    20. 04-06-2012 12:19 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by 71DubBugBug View Post
      welcome to the internet
      FTFY

    21. 04-06-2012 12:20 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      I often see this pic and ask my self: dafuq?

      What is the point of this picture, to showcase the sophistication of the engine, or to show damage to the engine?

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      04-06-2012 12:38 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by jason_kendall View Post
      I often see this pic and ask my self: dafuq?

      What is the point of this picture, to showcase the sophistication of the engine, or to show damage to the engine?
      to show the "nightmare" it is to change the chain guides/ chains and everything
      those 8 bolts hole sin the middle are for the flywheel, the chains are in the back fo the engine, and this makes it an engine out job

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      04-06-2012 12:49 PM #73
      Just to show off the complexity and the nightmare that the timing chains can be when one of the guide rails snaps loose. You have to drop the motor to do any work on it, and it's a laborious disaster. If you can luck out in that ballpark and keep the valves clean you should enjoy it.

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      04-06-2012 12:51 PM #74
      Woh, woh, woh, this thread is all wrong ... it should be "Reasons TO buy an RS4" ... I'll begin ...


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      04-06-2012 02:51 PM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      Regardless of looks, the B7 RS4 is quite a bit different than a B8 S4. By "stepping up," you lose the V8, the widebody, and the rarity factor - the top three things that are drawing me to the RS4.
      I'm with this guy. Shallow but true.

      I would even spring for an RS5 before a B8 S4 with the imaginary money I don't have.

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