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    RaceLine Performance and Motorsport Catalog Now Exclusively Available through APR’s Global Dealer Network

    Volkswagen Racing UK (VWR), home to the APR Volkswagen Racing Cup, has over a decade of motorsport experience with Volkswagen, Audi, Seat and Skoda platform vehicles in some of the most demanding motorsport environments. Through years of research and development, VWR was able to develop a product range applicable for both street and track use with a heavy focus on application and scenario specific products.

    APR spent a considerable amount of time testing the VWR catalog across Europe, the UK and North America to ensure the product line meets APR’s strict engineering requirements. The VWR product line operated beautifully and APR is able to declare they are perfect compliment to high quality and performance proven APR product line.



    The VWR catalog currently primarily focuses on VAG A5 (MK5/6 Golf, A3, TT, Scirocco, Leon, etc) and VAG A05 (A1, Polo, Fabia, etc) platform vehicles, however VWR is in the final stages of testing several performance parts for the larger Audi A, S and RS Line of vehicles such as the A4/A5, S4/S5 and TT RS. Suspension, Braking and Intake Systems will be the first products added to the catalog.

    For a listing of currently available VWR performance parts, please visit the pages below. For more information about Volkswagen Racing UK, please visit volkswagenracing.co.uk
    VWR RaceLine Performance and Motorsport Catalog

    Coilover Suspensions
    For VAG A5 Platform Vehicles (Ex, MK5/6 Golf/Jetta, Scirocco, etc)

    Coilover Suspensions
    For Dedicated Race Cars - Coming Soon!



    Lowering Springs
    For VAG A5 Platform Vehicles (Ex, MK5/6 Golf/Jetta, Scirocco, etc)

    Lowering Springs
    For VAG A05 Platform Vehicles (Ex, A1, Polo, Fabia, Etc)



    Swaybars
    For VAG A5 Platform Vehicles (Ex, MK5/6 Golf/Jetta, Scirocco, etc)

    Swaybar
    For VAG A05 Platform Vehicles (Ex, A1, Polo, Fabia, Etc)



    Motor, Transmission and Subframe Mounts
    For Transverse TSI, TFSI, T FSI and 3.2L VR6’s



    Short Shifters
    For VAG A5 Platform Vehicles with 6 Speed Transmissions (Ex, MK5/6 Golf/Jetta, Scirocco, etc)



    Wheels
    For Vehicles with 5x112 Bolt Patterns (Ex, MK5/6 Golf/Jetta, Scirocco, etc)



    6 Piston Braking Systems
    Coming Soon!



    High Flow Intake Filters
    For a wide range of VAG Vehicles



    Cold Air Intake Systems
    For First Generation 2.0T (FSI) Engines

    Cold Air Intake Systems
    For Second Generation 2.0T (TSI) Engines

    Cold air Intake Systems
    For 1.4 TSI Twincharger Engines



    VWR Merchandise
    Shirts, Polos, Hats, Jackets, Etc.



    To order, use our online store, call 334 502 5181 or visit [url=http://www.goapr.com/dealer/]www.goapr.com/dealer/ for an APR Dealer near you!
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    04-03-2012 05:45 PM #3
    Cool. In for more info on the brakes, looks like another solid product on the market!

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    04-03-2012 05:49 PM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by tomasepley View Post
    Cool. In for more info on the brakes, looks like another solid product on the market!
    I'm running an older set on my and they are amazing. The new set will be pretty damn nice and will fit behind your OEM wheels.
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    04-03-2012 06:06 PM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    I'm running an older set on my and they are amazing. The new set will be pretty damn nice and will fit behind your OEM wheels.
    Arin,

    When can we expect to see more details on the brakes?

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    04-03-2012 06:10 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by tomasepley View Post
    Arin,

    When can we expect to see more details on the brakes?
    I was told the new design would be stocked and ready by May.
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  8. 04-05-2012 03:57 AM #8
    So are Carbonio intakes, APR/Brembo brake kits and APR swaybars going to continue to be sold along side these new VWR parts?

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    04-05-2012 12:10 PM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Snaeper View Post
    So are Carbonio intakes, APR/Brembo brake kits and APR swaybars going to continue to be sold along side these new VWR parts?
    Yes sir!
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    04-05-2012 02:16 PM #11
    2 Questions:

    1. What is the difference between the VW Drivers gear sport springs found here:

    http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...ngs/ES1905258/

    And the VW lowering springs you're selling? Ride height and spring rate differences would be great if you have access to that type of info.

    2. Are there any issues with running the coilover kits on an MK6 TDI (I noticed it only says 2.0T on your website)?

    Thanks for taking the time to look into this for us and for offering these awesome products !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guack007 View Post
    2 Questions:

    1. What is the difference between the VW Drivers gear sport springs found here:

    http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...ngs/ES1905258/

    And the VW lowering springs you're selling? Ride height and spring rate differences would be great if you have access to that type of info.
    VWR:

    Front 31N/mm
    Rear 33N/mm

    Driver gear:

    Front 42N/mm
    Rear 40N/mm

    2. Are there any issues with running the coilover kits on an MK6 TDI (I noticed it only says 2.0T on your website)?

    Thanks for taking the time to look into this for us and for offering these awesome products !!!!
    I believe the weights and balance between these two engines are equal or equal enough that an adjustment on the knob will put you where you need to be. Let me clarify. Check back on the website if I don't respond as I'll update it with the correct info. (VWR does run TDI race cars so I'm sure they have this information already sorted and I just forgot to add it)
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    04-05-2012 02:24 PM #13
    All this blue doesn't work on my TR.

    Although, those brakes do look nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oviewankenobi View Post
    All this blue doesn't work on my TR.

    Although, those brakes do look nice.
    My car is tornado red, but keep in mind, most of the painted parts (springs / swaybars ) are out of sight.

    The brakes will come in black blue and red.
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    04-05-2012 02:35 PM #15
    I am psyched to have a brake kit developed specifically for our cars, and I won't lie, to have the bling of VWR on my calipers.

    Hoping these will be competitively priced somewhere between Racing Brake and the Brembo kits...

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    04-05-2012 02:35 PM #16
    Love those wheels and those brakes to go behind them wow

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    04-05-2012 02:45 PM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    VWR:

    Front 31N/mm
    Rear 33N/mm

    Driver gear:

    Front 42N/mm
    Rear 40N/mm



    I believe the weights and balance between these two engines are equal or equal enough that an adjustment on the knob will put you where you need to be. Let me clarify. Check back on the website if I don't respond as I'll update it with the correct info. (VWR does run TDI race cars so I'm sure they have this information already sorted and I just forgot to add it)
    I got confirmation the TDI uses the same part number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomasepley View Post
    I am psyched to have a brake kit developed specifically for our cars, and I won't lie, to have the bling of VWR on my calipers.

    Hoping these will be competitively priced somewhere between Racing Brake and the Brembo kits...
    They will be less expensive than brembo and alcon yet will have 2 more pistons and are properly designed for our master cylinder.
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    04-05-2012 02:46 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    My car is tornado red, but keep in mind, most of the painted parts (springs / swaybars ) are out of sight.

    The brakes will come in black blue and red.
    Yea yea, I was a bit tongue in cheek.

    Will be waiting for more info on those brakes like everyone else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oviewankenobi View Post
    Yea yea, I was a bit tongue in cheek.

    Will be waiting for more info on those brakes like everyone else.


    I will have more information in the future but chew on this:

    6 piston calipers designed to fit behind your OEM wheels. (Red/black/blue)

    Setup to work with your master cylinder

    Light braking around town will not throw you through your windshield. It feels like stock till you press on the brakes and need to stop.

    Normal brake pedal feel, your grandma would have no problem using them.

    2 piece rotors.

    352 x 32 slotted.

    interlocking shim system allows for wheel spacers that are locked into the bell, meaning you can run your wheels wherever you need them w/o replacing brakes (good for winter vs summer wheels). Interlocking shim also means it's not like a normal spacer. It will not vibrate or have the same issue spacers have.

    Price will be under 4 piston alcon and brembo prices.
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    04-05-2012 03:17 PM #21
    Thanks for the detailed and quick response

    BIG to APR for doing this !!!!!!

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    04-05-2012 03:28 PM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    I will have more information in the future but chew on this:

    6 piston calipers designed to fit behind your OEM wheels. (Red/black/blue)

    Setup to work with your master cylinder

    Light braking around town will not throw you through your windshield. It feels like stock till you press on the brakes and need to stop.

    Normal brake pedal feel, your grandma would have no problem using them.

    2 piece rotors.

    352 x 32 slotted.

    interlocking shim system allows for wheel spacers that are locked into the bell, meaning you can run your wheels wherever you need them w/o replacing brakes (good for winter vs summer wheels). Interlocking shim also means it's not like a normal spacer. It will not vibrate or have the same issue spacers have.

    Price will be under 4 piston alcon and brembo prices.
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    04-05-2012 05:58 PM #23
    Very cool. Addressed some of my concerns about big brakes.

    If I am understanding this correctly, setup has built in spacer capability?

    Dude.

    If life goes well, I'll be working in the auto industry soon and will be able to afford...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomasepley View Post
    Very cool. Addressed some of my concerns about big brakes.

    If I am understanding this correctly, setup has built in spacer capability?

    Dude.

    If life goes well, I'll be working in the auto industry soon and will be able to afford...
    Yes, you are correct. The bell housing has an interlocking spacer design so it will work with your OEM wheels that may not have much space behind them, or they will work with aftermarket wheels that have plenty of space. you can use different spacers to move the wheel in and out for clearance and for the fitment you want. This way you don't need to worry about the wheels you get or swapping off the brakes especially if you have summer/winter wheels. The only limitation is obviously wheel diameter.
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  28. 04-05-2012 08:53 PM #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    Yes sir!
    Good to hear, now I have a few more questions.

    1. Is there an off chance the big brake kit will squeeze under 17" wheels? I'm not terribly familiar with how to compute the sizes of brakes and wheels.

    2. Will the APR software get special tweaking to accommodate the VWR Intake? Are there any differences in performance between the VWR and APR/Carbonio intakes? Does the software already mesh well with the VWR system?

    3. How well would the VWR Lowering springs work with an aftermarket strut that's designed to use the normal ride height of the car? (Ex: Koni FSD)

    4. Have you guys tested the new coils? How well do they stack up for use on a daily driver? For comparison's sake, how well might they stack up against the likes of Ohlins?

    And since I have your attention, I'd like to ask an off-topic question:

    1. Will APR begin to carry/distribute/support (whichever word you'd like to use) RAYS Wheels on your website like BBS and VWR?

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    any difference in performance between the APR intake and VWracing, or just in price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thGenDub View Post
    any difference in performance between the APR intake and VWracing, or just in price?
    even if no difference in performance, it sure will be rare
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    04-06-2012 10:29 AM #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Snaeper View Post
    Good to hear, now I have a few more questions.

    1. Is there an off chance the big brake kit will squeeze under 17" wheels? I'm not terribly familiar with how to compute the sizes of brakes and wheels.
    Looking at how it fits in an 18", I don't think it will.

    2. Will the APR software get special tweaking to accommodate the VWR Intake? Are there any differences in performance between the VWR and APR/Carbonio intakes? Does the software already mesh well with the VWR system?
    No software adjustments are necessary.

    3. How well would the VWR Lowering springs work with an aftermarket strut that's designed to use the normal ride height of the car? (Ex: Koni FSD)
    Untested, so I do not know.

    4. Have you guys tested the new coils? How well do they stack up for use on a daily driver? For comparison's sake, how well might they stack up against the likes of Ohlins?
    Yes we have:

    http://www.goapr.com/products/suspen...ort_vaga5.html

    Here's what I wrote in another thread about the suspension:

    For the suspension and why it's better, Here's my take on it:

    There's one thing I've noticed about suspensions and it's that most companies make a suspension that should fit with springs that should work and valving that should be correct.

    VWR does it a little differently. They spec the valving and spring rates out for each vehicle they've tested. As you can see, the list is a little low right now. I only have a few cars on it out of the entire VAG range. That's either because I have not received confirmation on some of the vehicles but mainly because they don't want to sell a set based on "it should work." They like to know it's right.

    The kit inclues progressive springs rather than linear springs but offers linear as an upgrade. They do this because linear springs are more geared for track than progressive. Most people drive on the street most of the time, so it only makes sense to provide a spring that's proper for that environment. Remember, there's no one size fits all when it comes to suspensions. You can get close to making something that's well rounded but it may lack in one area or another. For some reason people believe harsh is correct. It's not. That's why you have spring choices depending on your driving location. Progressive will work on the track and it will work well, but the linear will be better ont he track, and not so great on the road.

    When it comes to adjustments, VWR did have multiple adjustments at one point but found most people don't know what they are doing or don't have tools and data collection methods to be able to tell what settings they should be at. When adjusting compression and rebound with multiple knobs, you can get out of whack on both sides, making the combined setup really really out of whack, and that's what they saw with customers vehicles all over the place. Because of that, they moved to a 1 knob system. 1 knob adjusts both and each click makes a good adjustment you can feel. On the track you'll want to go stiff. On the street, soft. If you have a 4 door DSG vs a 2 door 6MT, you may need a hair more adjustment on the street for it to be right (I went 2 clicks stiffer and it was great!).

    Now at any point if you are far out of spec it's not a problem, just click it back to the middle. 1 knob, 12 options (not 2 knobs with 12 options each for a combined total of 144 options!!! Yikes!). You just need to pop the hood and turn the knob. No tools needed. None. They even have a + and - on them for easy reference. That even includes the rear.... get on the ground and turn the knob.

    Another point I would like to make is that there are some fancy systems out there that cost less. They have camber plates, linear springs, remote reservoirs, 4 adjustment knobs, etc etc etc. They look "racey" and amazing and they cost next to nothing. Well, VWR has that stuff too (and a more track style setup too that's about $1,000 more than the streetsport +(not on the site yet)), but the big fancy race stuff is over $10,000! There's a reason it's so expensive and why some other kits that look similar are so cheap. But those are for pros with gutted race cars, not for the street.

    It comes down to getting what you need for your application and VWR has done a good job of setting up the suspensions for each vehicle and not giving you more than you need because quite frankly, you'll be worse off in the end if you were given more (that's not to insult people who know what they are doing, but for those people, the track stuff is available).

    Hope that helps!

    And since I have your attention, I'd like to ask an off-topic question:

    1. Will APR begin to carry/distribute/support (whichever word you'd like to use) RAYS Wheels on your website like BBS and VWR?
    I don't know yet, sorry!
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    04-06-2012 10:32 AM #33
    Quote Originally Posted by RogueTDI View Post
    Interested in short shifter. It appears to have adjustable throw. Is that correct? But only 25% max reduction? Thats not much...
    You do have a little room for adjustment.

    You don't want to go too far or it gets to be pretty unenjoyable. The VWR Race car drivers didn't really want to go further.
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    All of the new intake systems come with the "stage 2" piping correct?

    Planning on having any of these in stock at the shows this season?
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    04-06-2012 12:11 PM #35
    Quote Originally Posted by naDintheHat View Post
    All of the new intake systems come with the "stage 2" piping correct?

    Planning on having any of these in stock at the shows this season?
    (Stupid question i know)
    The VWR TSI Intake system looks like this and only this:

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