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  1. 04-03-2012 10:48 PM #1
    So I was looking online to find a distributor block off for my ABA build and came across this Not willing to pay that much. I also heard that the 3A bubble blocks had them stock. No luck in my search for an OEM one. So this evening I was screwing around with some broken 1.8l distributors and came up with this. Know I would like to know what the technical name was or is for this and dont say dizzy gizzy cause that is not it. All help would be great also if u have the Audi 3A unit I need it. The reason for the distributor block off is because I am running 034 Standalone and dont need it or dont want it. Thank you for your help.

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    04-04-2012 02:16 AM #2
    oil pump drive, thats what its for.
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  3. 04-04-2012 06:58 AM #3
    I know what its for i need the technical name like thw title states. Dealer name.

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    04-04-2012 08:57 AM #4
    That is the BBM Dizzy Gizzy w/ drive gear installed. AKA Oil pump drive for a 16V motor.
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    04-04-2012 12:04 PM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by ps2375 View Post
    That is the BBM Dizzy Gizzy w/ drive gear installed. AKA Oil pump drive for a 16V motor.
    16v oil pump drive uses a splined shaft, and a splined gear..

    the one pictured uses a stock 8v oil pump drive tang..

    its 8v specific, thats for sure..

    but im sure you already know that..

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    04-04-2012 12:49 PM #6
    The 2.0l gear is also a different size. I did a large writeup on this, Ill find it later

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    04-04-2012 01:01 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
    16v oil pump drive uses a splined shaft, and a splined gear..

    the one pictured uses a stock 8v oil pump drive tang..

    its 8v specific, thats for sure..

    but im sure you already know that..
    yup, this is used in an block with an 8V oil pump, like when making an ABF clone with an ABA, and not having to change the oil pump and IM shaft.
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  8. 04-04-2012 08:19 PM #8
    I am trying to find the name the Audi Dealer called this. It Originaly came out of a 3A Audi 80/90 2.0L. There was no distributor just this plug which drove the oil pump. So if u know the name post it! I know what it does and that the BBM one is called a Dizzy Gizzy, I also know what engine it comes from and I can swap out the internals. So again if you are familiar with this post if you know what I know look read but dont post anything. Not trying to be a jerk just get results.

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    04-04-2012 08:33 PM #9
    well it looks like a block off for the distributor thats driven of the intermediate shaft.I dont know the name but I do know that if your looking to block it off.1.8T aeb engines came with a factory block off plate.that should do the job.the 1.8 block and 2.0 are the same block.I hope this helps.

    I would call it a distributor block off plate.I believe I have one at work from a AEB engine.I will try and see if theres a part number on it and ill post it up tomorrow.
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    04-04-2012 09:05 PM #10
    For the PL/9A, it is called a sealing cap, pn 068103113B.

    For the AEB, same name, pn 058103703.

    I could not find anything like them for the 3A.
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  11. 04-04-2012 10:08 PM #11
    Thank you!
    You found what I have been looking for.
    I will save the web page also as this will be helpful in the future
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    04-05-2012 09:21 PM #12
    To clear things up, the 3A had a distributor, not a block-off.

    The 3A distributor is sought after for the ABA block/ Counter-flow head hybrid. It fits in the ABA block and is functionally the same as the 1.8L
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    04-07-2012 11:46 AM #13
    Damn someone beat me to it.Oh well I will post pictures later on when I'm home of the part if you want???
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    04-08-2012 06:19 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
    16v oil pump drive uses a splined shaft, and a splined gear..

    the one pictured uses a stock 8v oil pump drive tang..

    its 8v specific, thats for sure..

    but im sure you already know that..
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian.G View Post
    The 2.0l gear is also a different size. I did a large writeup on this, Ill find it later
    Quote Originally Posted by ps2375 View Post
    yup, this is used in an block with an 8V oil pump, like when making an ABF clone with an ABA, and not having to change the oil pump and IM shaft.
    Quote Originally Posted by ps2375 View Post
    For the PL/9A, it is called a sealing cap, pn 068103113B.

    For the AEB, same name, pn 058103703.

    I could not find anything like them for the 3A.
    they never made anything to drive an 8v oil pump, rather than the dizzy or a vacuum pump..

    the only ones that were driven by a gear, had a splined shaft, like the 16v engines, the OLD 1.5D w/ manual brakes (no vac pump to drive oil pump) and maybe a few other engines..

    never the less tho, that dizzy delete from bahn brenner, VW/Audi never made anything like that factory..

    they made a splined oil pump shaft, and the oil pump shaft held the splined gear, and then there was a sealing cap/gear retainer that held all of that in place..

    and yes, 3A has an 8v large base, 4 window dizzy in the block, not a sealing cap, splined gear, and splined oil pump shaft.

    the DIZZY GIZZY from bahn brenner is their own design, not a copied VW design, because VW never used an 8v oil pump without a dizzy/vac pump to drive it..

    they have been using the splined shaft/gear since the early/mid 70s, so idk why they would have changed it..
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    04-17-2012 09:16 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
    they never made anything to drive an 8v oil pump, rather than the dizzy or a vacuum pump..

    the only ones that were driven by a gear, had a splined shaft, like the 16v engines, the OLD 1.5D w/ manual brakes (no vac pump to drive oil pump) and maybe a few other engines..

    never the less tho, that dizzy delete from bahn brenner, VW/Audi never made anything like that factory..

    they made a splined oil pump shaft, and the oil pump shaft held the splined gear, and then there was a sealing cap/gear retainer that held all of that in place..

    and yes, 3A has an 8v large base, 4 window dizzy in the block, not a sealing cap, splined gear, and splined oil pump shaft.

    the DIZZY GIZZY from bahn brenner is their own design, not a copied VW design, because VW never used an 8v oil pump without a dizzy/vac pump to drive it..

    they have been using the splined shaft/gear since the early/mid 70s, so idk why they would have changed it..
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