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    Thread: Golf R vs EVO MR video

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      04-04-2012 11:53 AM #1


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      04-04-2012 11:57 AM #2
      I just watched that vid, not surprised about the results. Its a tough comparison, the EVO is an amazing track car, the R with no esc defeat is going to be an issue, until a tuner comes up with a solution.

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      04-04-2012 12:12 PM #3
      Loved the video. As a Golf R owner I agree 100%.

      Every US Golf R owner should be livid that we're the only country with non-defeatable ESC.

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      04-04-2012 12:24 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by R32ManiaK View Post
      I just watched that vid, not surprised about the results. Its a tough comparison, the EVO is an amazing track car, the R with no esc defeat is going to be an issue, until a tuner comes up with a solution.
      I'm hoping one of our Canadian brethren might be able to help us with this.
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      04-04-2012 12:35 PM #5
      Great video! I agree with him completely since the R is a great and fun daily driver compared to an EVO. As far as traction control goes I can't comment on that because I have no track experience.

    6. 04-04-2012 12:38 PM #6
      You can pull the fuse to defeat the esc without disabling the haldex.

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      04-04-2012 12:43 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by eastcoastjettin View Post
      You can pull the fuse to defeat the esc without disabling the haldex.
      I'd like to keep my ABS brakes if you don't mind.
      Scotch. It's time.

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      04-04-2012 12:44 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Time for a GTI View Post
      I'd like to keep my ABS brakes if you don't mind.
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    9. 04-04-2012 12:48 PM #9
      Truth. I for some reason thought the ESC and abs fuses were separate though. There is a video somewhere on youtube of a US spec R in the snow with esc disabled and full brake functions iirc. And he does mention that he had to pull the esc fuse

    10. 04-04-2012 01:00 PM #10
      I wish they would do a test like this with a Canadian Golf R because my car can turn off the esp

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      04-04-2012 01:12 PM #11
      Even he was duped by the soundaktor
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      04-04-2012 01:20 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Alive By time View Post
      Even he was duped by the soundaktor


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      04-04-2012 01:29 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Time for a GTI View Post
      I'm hoping one of our Canadian brethren might be able to help us with this.
      I'll be at WitW with mine, so if no one has an answer by then hopefully someone can make something of that.

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      04-04-2012 01:40 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by BRSomm View Post
      I'll be at WitW with mine, so if no one has an answer by then hopefully someone can make something of that.
      i will also be there in my 4 door smurf
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      04-04-2012 01:49 PM #15
      I have no idea why VW decided American R's can't totally disable the stability control. Seems so weird why my Canadian R has the option and you guys don't get it. Hopefully this will be resolved with time and another review is completed.

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      04-04-2012 01:57 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by langis View Post
      I wish they would do a test like this with a Canadian Golf R because my car can turn off the esp
      I agree! It would be interesting to see the results. After discovering that our cars can turn it off. But I am still not surprised by the results

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      04-04-2012 02:24 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Alive By time View Post
      Even he was duped by the soundaktor
      Oh the hell I was! I knew it was there. The Euro R I drove last year didn't have it. This one did. Night, meet day. Day, meet night.

      In theory, fake engine sounds suck. In reality, they're a function of modern cars being so quiet when you're cruising. I'd rather have real, mechanical engine noise, but that makes it hard to sell cars... so manufacturers play tricks like this. (BMW's doing it on the N20-powered (4-cylinder) Z3 and, more famously, on the M5. Don't blame 'em - I unplugged the speakers on the M5 and it was way too quiet.)

      I don't mind the Golf R's SoundAktor. What I mind is the stupid Beetle Turbo and Jetta GLI, which make 5-cylinder noises. Still haven't gotten an explanation from VWoA on that.

      Meanwhile, seriously, no ESP OFF on the US-spec Golf R? I wanted to crash that thing into a wall because of it. Truth is my eyes welled up with tears when I handed in the keys to that Golf R. But I won't buy one until VW gives the option to fully disable ESP.

      Hope you guys enjoyed the video. And more importantly - enjoy your Rs. I'm jealous.

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      04-04-2012 02:44 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by BRSomm View Post
      I'll be at WitW with mine, so if no one has an answer by then hopefully someone can make something of that.
      You da man
      Scotch. It's time.

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      04-04-2012 03:04 PM #19
      I watched the whole video in mute (I'm at work), but its pretty obvious the main knock against the R is the non-defeatable ESC.

      Frankly that is my only real disappointment with the R. I don't even plan on tracking my car but it would still have been nice to know that I have the option to drive nanny free.

      Hopefully, someone will be able to come up with a way to turn off ESC.

      The tuners should be able to get their hands on a Canadian R and compare the software. Do any of the Canadian R owners on this forum want to volunteer?

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      04-04-2012 03:10 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by 2ManyCars View Post
      Oh the hell I was! I knew it was there. The Euro R I drove last year didn't have it. This one did. Night, meet day. Day, meet night.

      In theory, fake engine sounds suck. In reality, they're a function of modern cars being so quiet when you're cruising. I'd rather have real, mechanical engine noise, but that makes it hard to sell cars... so manufacturers play tricks like this. (BMW's doing it on the N20-powered (4-cylinder) Z3 and, more famously, on the M5. Don't blame 'em - I unplugged the speakers on the M5 and it was way too quiet.)

      I don't mind the Golf R's SoundAktor. What I mind is the stupid Beetle Turbo and Jetta GLI, which make 5-cylinder noises. Still haven't gotten an explanation from VWoA on that.

      Meanwhile, seriously, no ESP OFF on the US-spec Golf R? I wanted to crash that thing into a wall because of it. Truth is my eyes welled up with tears when I handed in the keys to that Golf R. But I won't buy one until VW gives the option to fully disable ESP.

      Hope you guys enjoyed the video. And more importantly - enjoy your Rs. I'm jealous.

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      Is that really the dude from the video?? Seems legit haha

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      04-04-2012 03:32 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by 2ManyCars View Post
      Oh the hell I was! I knew it was there. The Euro R I drove last year didn't have it. This one did. Night, meet day. Day, meet night.

      In theory, fake engine sounds suck. In reality, they're a function of modern cars being so quiet when you're cruising. I'd rather have real, mechanical engine noise, but that makes it hard to sell cars... so manufacturers play tricks like this. (BMW's doing it on the N20-powered (4-cylinder) Z3 and, more famously, on the M5. Don't blame 'em - I unplugged the speakers on the M5 and it was way too quiet.)

      I don't mind the Golf R's SoundAktor. What I mind is the stupid Beetle Turbo and Jetta GLI, which make 5-cylinder noises. Still haven't gotten an explanation from VWoA on that.

      Meanwhile, seriously, no ESP OFF on the US-spec Golf R? I wanted to crash that thing into a wall because of it. Truth is my eyes welled up with tears when I handed in the keys to that Golf R. But I won't buy one until VW gives the option to fully disable ESP.

      Hope you guys enjoyed the video. And more importantly - enjoy your Rs. I'm jealous.

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      Apr's working on a software fix for this. Then smiles for everyone

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      04-04-2012 03:39 PM #22
      I haven't watched the video yet, as I'm at work. but I use to own a '10 EVO MR touring, it will be interesting if I agree with the video, but my personal opinion, is these two cars don't compare as one is manual and the other DSG, the R is a well balanced all around vehicle were my EVO was a sports/performance car in sedan clothing. I have a lot of respect for the EVO, but for a daily driver I prefer my new R.

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      04-04-2012 04:36 PM #23
      This guy just needs TechEd to show him how to drive the Golf R.

      Sideways is not the fastest way through a corner, nor the only way to have fun on at the track.

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      04-04-2012 05:07 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by 2012r View Post
      I have no idea why VW decided American R's can't totally disable the stability control. Seems so weird why my Canadian R has the option and you guys don't get it. Hopefully this will be resolved with time and another review is completed.
      Could be cause Canada's population is not 10% lawyers?

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      04-04-2012 05:07 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by keihin View Post
      This guy just needs TechEd to show him how to drive the Golf R.

      Sideways is not the fastest way through a corner, nor the only way to have fun on at the track.
      Found some short hairs to cling on to huh?

      Non-defeatable ESC sucks, period.

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