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I'm going to figure out a place to meet on Fridays somewhere in Arvada at 7-8ish I still have to figure out the details which I will do tonight. I will be sure to post up in vortex and metrodubs and I will have chad or Luke post up on the union forums. I'm excited to see where this goes.
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So random a$$ question...as I sat here and read/posted on this thread I realized something....do any of you clowns have jobs?
Just so you know our perspective here. I've said this in other threads before, but I've been dealing w/this drama for well over 10 years now(hard to believe) and yet this still persists in the RM forum. Thankfully it's not as bad as it once was give or a take a few folks that flatout won't listen to the message about leaving the insults, petty drama, etc. off our forums. Many of those folks have been shown the door.
Having said that you all need to come to some sort of mutual understanding that this feud once and for all needs to stop. I know it has stopped on vwv b/c I simply won't put up with it and haven't for years.
I'm going to let this thread go on, but if it turns into more posting of private txt messages, private notes, etc. then that in my mind is counterproductive at BEST(pun intended)and just serves no purpose. So I hope you all can work this out.. finally.
|| David@vwvortex.com ||
Wow. Glad to see that the whole "World vs. Metrodubs" or is it "Metrodubs vs. the World" is still happening in CO. The East Coast scene is thriving kids. Love it out here.
So y'all keep bickering about who's club is better than who's.
Hi guys. Miss my mountains and my dub friends. Erik, Dieter, Alex, Kevin, Hockman, Baker (even though his "club" sucks serious bollocks [Just kidding Jon ]).
Keep doing the charity things you do, and making sick dubs, and I won't bring a can of whoop-ass back when I come home on leave.
^^^ Truff can't want to move back out to the east coast and not have to deal with all this bickering don't get me wrong everyone is awesome and i love the cars but the bickering has to stop!
What a bunch of fgts!
Jon and Chad.... Just smash pissers already and get this stupid club drama/ vortex BS over with!
Everyone needs to get the boxing gloves on, talk the ****, throw the punches, then hug and make up.
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I can't believe this thread actually went on for seven pages. Baker you have my contact info if you ever decide to unify the scene let me know. Until then keep doing what you do.
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Car clubs... lol. People should spend more time working on car.
Alright guys the new euro meet is being held at bluewater's new shop at 7pm every friday starting this friday. if your tired of the drama and just want to be there for the cars come show up. this is not an MD or a VW union meet. it's just an all euro meet. make sure to leave your personal beef at the door. bluewater's new address is 6425 Washington street, denver Co 80229. hope to see you all there!! i'm gonna post up another thread for this event as well
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also be careful because cops patrol that road pretty well. so please drive respectfully.
The so called "VWUnion" meets that happen on Saturdays in Fort Collins never used to be club affiliated. I remember a couple years back, people who liked modifying or just simply enjoyed cars got together near Jacksons to hang out, chat, make friends, and share knowledge. There was no clubs. In honesty a club to me is unnecessary. Then you got drama between clubs and people who thinks their club is better than everyone elses.
The arguing between the two leaders is getting ridiculous, and I laugh at the ignorance and lack of perspective they have developed. I have seen improvement in both parties but there still needs to be something done overall, not just a change in management.
When VWUnion claimed the Saturday GTGs in Fort Collins, initially I was against it. Look back in the previous GTG thread if its still around, I didnt want a club tag attached to something that didnt need it. I attended these GTGs anyway because I just wanted to meet people and enjoy cars. To this day I do not consider myself part any club. Granted there are some great people I have met and friends that I have made, but this can be achieved without the club stigma attached to it. I help out my friends when I can, whether helping with their car or making designs for them, but I would do that for any friend, club affiliated or not.
Clubs remind me of Honda clubs, Subaru clubs, Mustang clubs which generally are filled with kids who want to race, burnout and do other kiddie things. I believe that Volkswagen and Audi owners should come together because of the unique culture it has. What does a club bring? A title? Worthless. Camaraderie? Easily obtainable without a club.
As for the two clubs getting into one big one, I think its a terrible idea. History will repeat and somewhere down the road people are going to have to end up choosing between groups. The best solution is the one provided by the OP; keep everything club free.
Im not a VWUnion member, not a MetroDubs member. I am a VW enthusiast. What are we in high school?
Jaco used to run these, with SCR Performance showing up. I used to go to those when they weren't affiliated and, honestly, some of the biggest and best ideas came from those meets. I met half the crew that started EuroBerge with me there.
As for this club drama, well, I've been working hard for 4 years to fix it, trying to get the clubs to come together, work together. Shops have stepped in, like Gabe and Hardy, trying to bring both of you together. They support both clubs equally, and I think it's great. But really, why? Well, because the clubs have been diminished down to a two groups who quibble and bicker and fight and create drama. There is nothing unique about either of you. Both are the same, and in the end, you're trying to mimic the east coast when in fact you should try and create something new. But, if that is what you are both doing and are happy with the results, that is fine, and we will all have to live with it.
Maybe someone can explain this to me. Why is the drama brought to the Vortex? You both have your own forums and groups, and yet, whenever I login to the 'Tex, all i see is MD/VWUnion posts about GTGs, or complaints and issues. Why can the 'Tex not be the ONE place VW/Audi people from Colorado go to get away from it all?
In the end, the scene is what you make it. I personally watch as many forums I can and am not affiliated with any local clubs, and I am happy with that. I would love to see something new come through in Colorado, and would be more than happy to support such a venture, but it truly needs to be new, fresh, and uniting.
Heck, I would go as far as to say shutting both clubs down and all the leaders stepping away and letting something new come through might help. But, to me that is wishful thinking, as I am sure it is with many others. No disrespect meant to those in charge, but maybe it is time to look at this in the sense that this isn't working as a whole, and it's time for a complete overhaul.
Everyone has my e-mail, and I am available to chat/talk/whatever, and I would be more than willing to help mediate something, but it needs to be cohesive. Not like one drive, two clubs cohesive. More like one scene, one all.
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