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Thread: ce1 1.8 16v wiring question (engine and ecm power)

  1. Member matt_redd's Avatar
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    04-05-2012 12:56 AM #1
    NEW INFO: I am a retard. I did not check this when I bought the motor.
    Ran the part # on the ECM to narrow down the years, and it is a 2.0l ECM.
    So, dumb me, just thought to check the back of the block.



    Yup, its a 2.0l 16v. Yay me. So the following info is incorrect.
    But I still need the breakdown on the wires and plugs I have.



    Okay, 1.8 16v ce1. These two plugs mount near the ecm in the rain tray.
    I am told they are the ecm and motor wiring power/control wires.
    Can anyone tell me what they are. this will be going into a 83 rabbit gti.






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    04-06-2012 11:06 AM #2
    Those connectors are from CIS-Motronic.

    Black connector

    Black/White=IGN 12v for ISV/Cold Start/On-Off Valve/Freq Valve
    Red=Constant 12v
    Red/White=O2 Heater
    Red/Yellow=Pump Relay Ground
    Black=IGN 12v to ECU
    Black/Yellow=IGN 12v to Coil

    Grey

    Blue/White=Cluster
    Red/Black=Tach Input
    White/Green=Ground
    Yellow/Black=Diagnostic
    Yellow=Diagnostic
    Grey/White=Diagnostic

    You can ditch the grey connector. After you remove the old management you should be left with a red/black wire at the coil(1) for your tach input and a black wire at the coil(15) for IGN 12v. You can use the coil(15) wire and feed the black/yellow wire from the connector. You can use the wire powering the old ecu and connect it to the black wire of the connector. You wont connect the red/yellow wire because the relay is grounded via the fuse box and powered from the coil(1) red/black wire. You will have to run a constant 12v wire for the red wire of the connector. I suggest you relay the the remaining red/white and black/white wires.
    84 GTI 8v
    90 GLI 16v

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    04-08-2012 03:10 AM #3
    thank you for the break down. I have been scouring pages of wiring diagrams trying to figure it out.

    I will have a few updates when I get started!!!!!
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    04-08-2012 03:14 AM #4
    " I suggest you relay the the remaining red/white and black/white wires."

    This may be a dumb question, but will I be running individual relays for both wires or am I able to run them off the same one?
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    04-08-2012 10:48 AM #5
    1 relay will work.
    84 GTI 8v
    90 GLI 16v

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