#106
Cyclisit shouldn't be on the road to begin with. You can clearly see how he was obstructing what seemed to be a highway. Both parties were in the wrong.
#107
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#109
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#111
As perhaps the only experienced cyclist (25 years) in here, I will say that if I were to have to ride over that bridge, I would stay to the right and haul ass over it. However, this does not excuse the inattentiveness and subsequent criminal behavior of the Accord driver.
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#116
I would have walked the bike over on the sidewalk if it were illegal to ride it. It's common sense, stay off the road. That's why people have to cross the centerline due to ignorant dumbass Lance Armstrong wanna-bes out there who don't know how to stay out of the way of vehicles.
#117
It's a basic ****ing skill. You pedal the pedals, you use your hands to apply brakes, what more is there to learn? You max out at about 30mph woah! I could understand if you've mastered all kinds of tricks or something.
Oh yeah, because 3 pedals with 2 feet and different drivetrain layouts/horsepower ratings, chassis dynamics etc is totally the same as pedals and a couple levers.
For the record, i'm an "experienced" cyclist myself. There's no ****ing way I would smugly insert that as though i'm better versed on ANY subject other than maybe what components work better than others on a bike. It isn't a complicated task.
#120
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#121
But it was legal to ride the bike in the middle of the lane (per law).![]()
Common sense is to stay as far right as practicable and follow the direction of traffic, not riding against it.It's common sense, stay off the road.
So everyone on a bicycle is trying to be LA? Didn't know that.That's why people have to cross the centerline due to ignorant dumbass Lance Armstrong wanna-bes out there who don't know how to stay out of the way of vehicles.Do you go on these arguments against tractors, or carriages, mopeds, etc.? It's a 35mph-limited road, not a 45-55mph thoroughfare. Pass when the line of sight is clear and it is safe to do so. Don't see why this is such a problem.
#122
The caption should read:
But I was following the law.....
Regardless of the law, the higher the difference in speed between you and the cars you share the road with, the more likely you are going to cause and accident. Bike vs automobile accident, who do you think is going to get hurt more? If you are not willing to acknowledge that there is a place and time to safely ride a bicycle I give up.
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#124
It's a 35mph road. That's not a highway.The cyclist was following the letter of the law which clearly stated (on signage) that cyclists are to use the road, and can take the middle of the lane (presumably to avoid being crushed into the barrier by someone who can't wait a few seconds to pass).
#126
I got hit by car yesterday on my ride, ****ing hit and run, I wish some one like this was there to help me. I'm fine, but the ******* stopped to see if i was alive and then pinned it out of there.I had the green light going straight through the intersection, they decided to take a left and clip my rear wheel.
Luckily im fine, and my bike is ok. Tacoed rear wheel seems to be the damage. I really hope Karma kicks in for that ***hole.![]()
#127
Yes, even people in cars get hurt following the law.That was the designated crossing, it's not the cyclist's fault some kid ran into him (and then attempted to flee to avoid consequence). There isn't exactly a huge difference between a cyclist and a car on a 35mph road.
Bicycles are transportation, not strictly a leisure vehicle. It's like saying there's a time and place to drive a sportsdcar, and that one isn't allowed to use it legally on the roadways as transport.
In the town I live in, the county designates the sidewalk as the bike path along the arterial road. Clear enough. I use that when I go on my exercise outings. Then again, I have seen people riding theirs on the edge of that roadway. In heavy traffic. It's a six-lane.![]()
#128
-name another non motorized vehicle allowed on the road?
-name another non tagged/non registered/non commercial vehicle allowed on the road?
Why stop at bicycles? Why not also give the same rights to skate boarders and roller bladers and people on pogo sticks and people in wheel chairs?
But then those people would be hindering the bicyclists.. and would the bicyclists complain?
If a vehicle breaks down in the middle of a busy road and eventually gets hit- we all say "well that was expected".It is not someones right to drive at the maximum speed limit, so if you have to slow down then do it safely and get on with it. Car drivers always want to point out that their 3000lb vehicle will always win vs a cyclist, but if you are paying attention (and the cyclists isn't riding like a jackass) then there shouldn't even be a contest.
Also what rights are cyclists being given? At least around me it seems that cyclists are just finally having rights enforced. The funny thing to me is that most cyclists would much rather be in a separate bike lane when they are riding but the government doesn't want to spend any money on such things so they get stuck in the road and have to make do instead.
Edit: Just as a side note even though as a cyclist I believe cyclists have every right to be on the road, I certainly would not ride over this bridge either.
If a pedestrian cross a busy road without looking to make sure traffic is stopping and they get hit we all say "Well that was expected".
But if a bicyclist rides slowly on a busy urban bridge and gets hit we can't say "Well that was expected." … seems hypocritical no?
Saying something was dangerous isn't the same as saying the guy is to blame, just that "we understand" why it happened.
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#129
and the video perfectly demonstrates that even if the speedlimit is set at 35mph on that bridge, a single bicycle rider put how many people's lifes in danger in a few minutes?
I have an idea, to make the whole country more bicycle friendly why not demand the national speedlimit set at 10mph.![]()
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#133
The "seasoned rider" might be smug but he did state the second best option. (the first being walking the bike across). It might be legal to ride a bike slowly across a 35mph bridge but it's idiotic to do and fits well the thinking of those who decide these things.
#134
Speed "limit" does not mean "required minimum speed."
Again, I'm glad you don't drive on the roads I ride on. That's a ****ty attitude to have, and I hope you never injure an innocent person on the roadways.
That sucks. Great to hear you weren't injured. Hard time to ride right now, motorists are getting used to cyclists on the road again.
PLEASE explain to me how that cyclist put multiple drivers' lives in danger?
Last edited by GoRacers; 04-06-2012 at 11:25 AM.
#136
I guess if you want to ride a bike on the same space as something that has airbags, glass, steel and 3000-5000+ pounds on you, that is certainly your choice. Riding a bike will make you more alert, and aware, while the fleshbags talking on their cell, listening to Usher while going 55 in a 25...they are not going to see you.
Me? I ride out on trails and various locations where vehicles can't run me over. I don't trust people enough not to run me over.
#138
Thanks, I was lucky, and I know that. If i cant get my rear wheel fixed soon looks like i stuck with my fixed gear for awhile.
I'm just a little infuriated with the response that the TCL has over these incidences, its childish, egocentric and frankly, disappointing. Seriously what is with the holier than thou BS, leave e-thuggin to lonely middle schoolers.
#140
Props to the bus driver.
Glad the cyclist, who is obviously a commuter, is not hurt. I hope a local bike shop helps him out in getting his bike fixed because insurance will not cover something like that quickly or without negotiating costs to no end.
Bummer that cyclists have to ride in traffic without a bike lane over a long bridge. If that were my commute I would look at different routes.
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