Bierce IV's Thread.

[Niagara_V_Dub]

I basically got a screw driver that was close to 7mm across the bit, then got some spare change and put a nickel between gap and the screw driver and held it in place as best as possible while turning the screw driver. The lower in the spindle you can get it then the more it should open.

Then I used more lube than a porn set on the strut.

I got it as deep as possible then got frustrated when it hung up and grabbed the brake disk and shook the jesus out of it and it started to slowly slip in more. Fast forward to more semi-violent shaking and it was fully seated.

None of that is really the proper way, but hell it worked.

[Bierce IV]

Pulled the fronts back out to notice the powdercoat peeled off but i said F it. used the 3/4" cold chisel and they slid right in. I got the wheels where i want. And i will have pictures up soon after i buff it at work. Thanks for all the help guys. But, only run compressor is hooked up right now and i really want that second. do i have to run another power wire up?

[tmg1991]

I had to do the same thing. I even grounded the powder coat off cause I couldnt get it in. So when i got it in. Just sprayed a crap load of primer over it so hopefully it'll protect it. And it took me like 4 hours to get the drive side in lol. It was awful. Glad you got it worked out.

[Twilliams83]

Pulled the fronts back out to notice the powdercoat peeled off but i said F it. used the 3/4" cold chisel and they slid right in. I got the wheels where i want. And i will have pictures up soon after i buff it at work. Thanks for all the help guys. But, only run compressor is hooked up right now and i really want that second. do i have to run another power wire up?

For your compressors you only use one power wire. On bagriders website under tech they have a really good diagram. I would post it bu im on my phone.

[Markg813]

I used a flap wheel to take off a couple inches of paint of the bottom of the struts for an easier install, then i spread some anti seize around the areas i took the paint off the struts so it doesn't seize up.

You should definately invest in a strut spreader tool. My struts dropped right in without any problems using it!

[tmg1991]

I used a flap wheel to take off a couple inches of paint of the bottom of the struts for an easier install, then i spread some anti seize around the areas i took the paint off the struts so it doesn't seize up.

You should definately invest in a strut spreader tool. My struts dropped right in without any problems using it!

You took off a couple inches of paint? Lol. You also left by myself to do the driver side

[Bierce IV]

sway bar still in, no notch and the fenders are getting in the way. But heres some iphone shots. Legit shots coming soon.
If you ask me the fitment is x100000 better than the static from the prev page.
Yes the first shot is with the rear up in the air, i hope this will be the end result when i get the notch. (with new buumper and lip i have of course.)

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before you say it, i know. It needs more low and new headlights.

[Bierce IV]

said tire

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[Niagara_V_Dub]

how the balls did the tire do that?

[Bierce IV]

long story short, strut spun and the prong that holds the lines ripped a circle in the tire. At least the explosion wasnt an airline or bag

[DGK_KGD]

long story short, strut spun and the prong that holds the lines ripped a circle in the tire. At least the explosion wasnt an airline or bag

crazy !

looks great btw!

9 more days till i install mine! the Alaska build

[Bierce IV]

crazy !

looks great btw!

9 more days till i install mine! the Alaska build

actually, may be moving there one day for geology.
But whats your guys secrets for quiting down the compressors? I was thinking or wraping the **** outta the floor in that (i forgot the name of dampening stuff but i know what it is) stuff.

[DGK_KGD]

actually, may be moving there one day for geology.
But whats your guys secrets for quiting down the compressors? I was thinking or wraping the **** outta the floor in that (i forgot the name of dampening stuff but i know what it is) stuff.

I will be moving out of here in T minus 2 2/3 years As far as the quieting the compressors i would say line your floor in this http://www.dynamatstore.com/, then again i do not know what they actually sound like I have to stare at them for another 9 days till the install

[Niagara_V_Dub]

from everything that I've heard, its more in the mounting of the compressor than the dampening on the panels around it.

[MechEngg]

from everything that I've heard, its more in the mounting of the compressor than the dampening on the panels around it.

Actual a combination of the two plus 1!

1 - I built a vibration isolating frame to limit the vibrations that are transferred from the compressors to the sheet metal.
2 - Dynamat (or similar stuff like b-quiet ultimate, 1/3 the price) for absorbing any vibrations that actually do get transferred to the sheet metal. Sheet metal has the tenancy to make a horrible racket when it vibrates at high frequencies so limit is as much as possible to get the least airborne sound possible
3 - Now you need to control the airborne sound waves that come from the sheet metal and compressors themselves. Use a closed cell foam and lead vinyl matt combination for best results, can be found at b-quiet.com as well.

Plans:


Isolation frame and rubber dampers:


Vibration damper:


Airborne sound dampener beneath the rear deck:


Airborne sound dampener on the bottom of the false floor:



Finished product:

[kilimats]

^ yes indeed, did that and the paint thanked me for it

[arethirdytwo]

The chisel and a little grease lets it slide right in. Really get that knuckle open.

[Bierce IV]

hooking up the other compressor tonight. Question, what should i have my max air at for my 5 gallon tank. i have dual 440's and 3/8 lines. i have min at 110 right now at max at 150 and it seems like its always kicking on.

[Niagara_V_Dub]

leaks?

If you fill the tank does the psi drop over time?

[Bierce IV]

leaks?

If you fill the tank does the psi drop over time?

actually just coming to post some "issues"
the tank does drop to 142 psi from 150psi in like 5 mins then it very slowy drops over night to like 30. I think that leak is somewhere near the watertrap. And my left front will drop a few psi slowly so i have to check there. But i cant get the fitting to tighten anymore.

Ok also here is my daily height.
47psi LF 38psi RF 40 psi LR 40 psi RR.
Why is it different in the front to make it even? (wear on mounts?) and the rears need ot be adjusted to even out as well..


And lastly, why the hell is it so damn bouncy? (first time on air) It was worse than my vmaxx coils. even with a full tank. I still have the vmaxx shocks which i guess could be it because the bags are shorter than the springs. Or perhaps the desperate need of an alignment that im getting tomorrow.



Wow thats alot, sorry new to air

[Rat4Life]

possibly your bump stops are still in on the back?, when driving low probably just sitting on them, makes ride very bouncy.

[MechEngg]

Yeah i would check bumpstops in the back. As for the tank leaking 8psi in 5 minutes, you have a major leak. That is what is turning your compressors on so often. Get it fixed asap so you don't have to wait for the tank to fill up in the mornings before you can even lift your car to start your drive

[Bierce IV]

Yeah i would check bumpstops in the back. As for the tank leaking 8psi in 5 minutes, you have a major leak. That is what is turning your compressors on so often. Get it fixed asap so you don't have to wait for the tank to fill up in the mornings before you can even lift your car to start your drive

I will when I get home. Is it normal for the bags to fluctuate when driving? For example the rear will go from 40-42 and back done and keep doing it.

[Niagara_V_Dub]

Yeah i would check bumpstops in the back. As for the tank leaking 8psi in 5 minutes, you have a major leak. That is what is turning your compressors on so often. Get it fixed asap so you don't have to wait for the tank to fill up in the mornings before you can even lift your car to start your drive

Meh, that is my current life. I leak from 145 to 65 psi overnight. Gonna go nutty with leak detector spray this weekend.

[MechEngg]

Meh, that is my current life. I leak from 145 to 65 psi overnight. Gonna go nutty with leak detector spray this weekend.

Yeah. I have zero leaks in all of my lines and it is glorious.

MechEngg's lesson of the day

As long as there isn't a huge temperature difference it is usually very close to the pressure the day before. Temp increase = pressure increase.

P1/T1 = P2/T2

temp is in kelvin, pressure doesn't matter.

say you had your tank at 150psi and it was 20C out
P1/T1 = 150psi/293k
The next morning it is colder, say 10C outside. What will the pressure in the tank be?
P2 = T2 * P1/T1 = 283* (150/293) = 145psi


Now a lesson on why pressure relief valves (safety valves) are useful. In the morning on the way to work your compressor kicks on because you are screwing around with it. A brisk summer morning at 2C (happens here in canada eh). You have your tank set to 200psi like i do. You park your car out in the sun all day and inside the car reaches 60C (easily done in the sun). How much pressure would be in your tank?
Answer: 242psi. That is quite a bit over the rated pressure of the aluminum tank you happen to have (150psi working pressure rating). So having a safety valve of 205psi will save your life/trunk setup in this case if your tank were to explode

[Bierce IV]

Got the car back after the allignment. I got 1.5 degrees of camber in front right that's it. Which I didn't have in coils and the tires are loud as hell. Time for new wheels.

[Markg813]

You took off a couple inches of paint? Lol. You also left by myself to do the driver side

Yeah, i though you were there when i was doing mine? My struts went in with no problem!

[Bierce IV]

Yeah. I have zero leaks in all of my lines and it is glorious.

MechEngg's lesson of the day

As long as there isn't a huge temperature difference it is usually very close to the pressure the day before. Temp increase = pressure increase.

P1/T1 = P2/T2

temp is in kelvin, pressure doesn't matter.

say you had your tank at 150psi and it was 20C out
P1/T1 = 150psi/293k
The next morning it is colder, say 10C outside. What will the pressure in the tank be?
P2 = T2 * P1/T1 = 283* (150/293) = 145psi


Now a lesson on why pressure relief valves (safety valves) are useful. In the morning on the way to work your compressor kicks on because you are screwing around with it. A brisk summer morning at 2C (happens here in canada eh). You have your tank set to 200psi like i do. You park your car out in the sun all day and inside the car reaches 60C (easily done in the sun). How much pressure would be in your tank?
Answer: 242psi. That is quite a bit over the rated pressure of the aluminum tank you happen to have (150psi working pressure rating). So having a safety valve of 205psi will save your life/trunk setup in this case if your tank were to explode

Any way I could go over 150 psi with my tank once I hook up the other compressor?

[MechEngg]

Any way I could go over 150 psi with my tank once I hook up the other compressor?

You can go over 150psi with just one compressor

[blue bags]

yup 200psi is max working pressure on a 444 iirc. 400s are 150

[Bierce IV]

well then lol.. And got some picture they will be up shortly

[Bierce IV]

well, pictures wont be done for a while soooo.. Everyone's favorite! Driveway shots with a potato! (I'm not a photographer)


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rear, (need new adapters)

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[Niagara_V_Dub]

Looking good, not a huge fan of uber poke in the rear but it looks good.

And where in NY are you from?

[Bierce IV]

Looking good, not a huge fan of uber poke in the rear but it looks good.

And where in NY are you from?

rochester, was thinking of moving out to buffalo soon. and im waiting for smaller adapters in the rear.

[Niagara_V_Dub]

rochester, was thinking of moving out to buffalo soon. and im waiting for smaller adapters in the rear.

I am thinking of running some spacers in the rear too. And Rochacha is pretty close and Buffalo SUCKS! Nothing here honestly. Can't wait to move back west in a few months.