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    04-07-2012 03:37 PM #1
    I figured I'd start a thread for people who've weighed or measured various parts of the car or the whole car itself to post the info. Nice to have some before and after data.

    Stock 18" x 7.5" Wheel - 26 lbs
    Stock 18" x 7.5" Wheel with stock tire - 47.4 lbs (Dunlop SP Sport)
    19"x8" Talladega with sportmaxx GT's - 54.3 lbs

    Loaded 4-door - 3378 lbs (1/2 tank of gas)
    Loaded 2-door - 3274 lbs (1/8 tank of gas)
    Base 4-door - 3357 lbs (1/2 tank of gas)
    Base 2-door - 3307 lbs (full tank of gas)

    Stock hood - ???

    Stock Lower Control Arm (steel) - 10.5 lbs
    Passat Lower Control Arm Replacement (Aluminum) - 6.5 lbs
    Stock Spindle/hub carrier (steel) - 11.0 lbs
    Passat Spindle/hub carrier Replacement (Aluminum) - 8.0 lbs

    Front Swaybar - 22 mm
    Rear Swaybar - 22 mm
    [stock Mk6 GTI front and rear sway bars, 24 mm front, 22 mm rear]

    Stock Front discs - 345 mm diameter, 26.5 lbs
    Stock Front Caliper - 18.5 lbs
    Stock Rear discs - 310 mm diameter, 14.8 lbs
    Stock Rear Caliper - ??

    Stock downpipe weight - 21 lbs
    Stock catback weight - 26 lbs

    Spare wheel/tire - 31 lbs
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    04-07-2012 04:59 PM #2
    My fully 2-door with Nav/Sunroof and 1/8th of a tank weighs 3274lbs.

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    04-07-2012 08:25 PM #3
    I'll fill in some others from the tech thread once I'm at my home computer.
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    04-08-2012 05:41 PM #5
    Weight of premium gallon of gas (US) is 6.16 lbs/gallon. So you could subtract some weight from the car with that to get a better idea of a partially dry weight.
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    04-08-2012 05:53 PM #6
    Would love some weights of:
    Stock battery
    Stock exhaust pieces
    Stock brake rotors
    Stock caliper for people who replace them
    Stock control arm (assuming replacement w/ aluminum pieces off the Passat)
    Stock hub (assuming replacement w/ aluminum pieces off the Passat)
    Stock flywheel

    For any replacement parts, would be great to have weight for those parts too.
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    04-08-2012 09:32 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by droopy1592 View Post
    Weight of premium gallon of gas (US) is 6.16 lbs/gallon. So you could subtract some weight from the car with that to get a better idea of a partially dry weight.
    Yeah, from my flying days I usually estimate about 6 lbs/gal. But in that case it'd be best to get weights with the cars topped off so you subtract the same from all.
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    04-25-2012 05:39 AM #8
    Added weights for lower control arms and spindles. Thanks Tyrol Mike!

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    05-13-2012 12:18 PM #9
    I threw mine on a scale today...my car 2DR RB with a full tank of fuel and nothing but a couple towels in the back...she weighed in at 3380lbs on the nose....

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    05-13-2012 12:52 PM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Geist296 View Post
    I threw mine on a scale today...my car 2DR RB with a full tank of fuel and nothing but a couple towels in the back...she weighed in at 3380lbs on the nose....
    Seems heavy for a 2DR. Did you mean 3280? Base or loaded? Gas is roughly 6lbs a gallon but can't account for that much weight.
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    05-13-2012 01:27 PM #11
    Great thread. I'll be happy to get over the weight of the standard fenders as opposed to the new SRS-Tec composite replacements. I can also get the exhaust components next week as well as the rear seats, but for now...

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    05-13-2012 02:03 PM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by iMod.:R View Post
    Great thread. I'll be happy to get over the weight of the standard fenders as opposed to the new SRS-Tec composite replacements. I can also get the exhaust components next week as well as the rear seats, but for now...

    Brembo Type III 2-piece rotors and 6-pot calipers 32lbs per side (fronts only)

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    Thanks! Would love to add all those numbers. Also want to know what the stock rear rotors weigh in at, not sure if you're replacing those.

    According to TyrolMike though, the stock caliper plus rotor weighed in at:
    Stock Front Rotor - 26.5 lbs
    Stock Front Caliper - 18.5 lbs

    or 45 lbs. So either that's wrong or you actually lost 13 lbs per front corner!
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    05-13-2012 07:28 PM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Lamfalus View Post
    Thanks! Would love to add all those numbers. Also want to know what the stock rear rotors weigh in at, not sure if you're replacing those.

    According to TyrolMike though, the stock caliper plus rotor weighed in at:
    Stock Front Rotor - 26.5 lbs
    Stock Front Caliper - 18.5 lbs

    or 45 lbs. So either that's wrong or you actually lost 13 lbs per front corner!
    Yes sir, I did a quick calculation on the iPhone and was off by 4lbs so the corrected number is 13 saved per front corner. I like that number more

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    05-13-2012 11:13 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Lamfalus View Post
    Seems heavy for a 2DR. Did you mean 3280? Base or loaded? Gas is roughly 6lbs a gallon but can't account for that much weight.
    Lamfalus....loaded 2dr.....the scale is spot on seeing as it is a recycle joint and that is how they get paid for the loads in they weight the truck full and then empty and they get their money.

    and even on VW's website they list a 2 dr at 3325lbs...and I am sure they don't weigh them with a full tank of fuel

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    05-14-2012 04:48 AM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Geist296 View Post
    Lamfalus....loaded 2dr.....the scale is spot on seeing as it is a recycle joint and that is how they get paid for the loads in they weight the truck full and then empty and they get their money.

    and even on VW's website they list a 2 dr at 3325lbs...and I am sure they don't weigh them with a full tank of fuel
    I was just comparing to another owner who reported:
    Loaded 2-door - 3274 lbs (1/8 tank of gas)

    Between errors on either scale + difference in gas I guess it could explain the difference.
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    05-14-2012 07:16 AM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Lamfalus View Post
    I was just comparing to another owner who reported:
    Loaded 2-door - 3274 lbs (1/8 tank of gas)

    Between errors on either scale + difference in gas I guess it could explain the difference.
    Yeah I totally agree with that being part of the difference...if fuel weighs about 6 lbs a gallon...you figure 10 gallons would be 60lbs. so drop mine down to an 1/8 and yeah she would be closer to 3320....I am not majorly conserned with the weight she is still fun to drive and she makes me giggle everytime I get in and push the start button...

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    05-14-2012 07:34 AM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Geist296 View Post
    and even on VW's website they list a 2 dr at 3325lbs...and I am sure they don't weigh them with a full tank of fuel
    The problem is that on the VW website, they list the same weight for every model. At least the last time I checked they did. There has to be a weight difference between models. I would guess there is at least 100lbs difference between a 2Dr and a Loaded 2Dr. Then there must be at least another 50lbs difference between Loaded 2Dr and Loaded 4Dr.

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    05-15-2012 09:44 AM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by ecirwin View Post
    The problem is that on the VW website, they list the same weight for every model. At least the last time I checked they did. There has to be a weight difference between models. I would guess there is at least 100lbs difference between a 2Dr and a Loaded 2Dr. Then there must be at least another 50lbs difference between Loaded 2Dr and Loaded 4Dr.
    Yeah I saw that after I posted that. I could swear that when I was first looking at this car that the website said that the loaded 2dr was like 3347lbs....but then again the rememberer isn't as good as it use to be...

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    05-15-2012 01:14 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Geist296 View Post
    even on VW's website they list a 2 dr at 3325lbs...and I am sure they don't weigh them with a full tank of fuel
    Curb weights are supposed to be with all fluids, including the gas tank. That's slightly different than saying a full tank of gas, mind you. The tank on our Golf is 14.5 gallons (I think), but like most gas tanks, when topped off it probably contains an extra gallon or two of gas.

    For comparison, my 350Z had a curb weight of 3188 lbs, and when bone stock with a full tank of gas, it weighed 3212 on race scales. It also could hold 19 gallons of gas even though it was spec'd with a 16 gallon gas tank. So, the actual weight with a full tank was very close to the curb weight, especially when the weight of an extra 3 gallons of gas is considered.

    I just picked up a 2 door basic R (no nav or sunroof) and will try and get it on some race scales with a full tank of gas. I'll be sure to report what it comes out to be.

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    05-15-2012 02:53 PM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Resolute View Post
    I just picked up a 2 door basic R (no nav or sunroof) and will try and get it on some race scales with a full tank of gas. I'll be sure to report what it comes out to be.

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    I will have a 2 DR Base in a few weeks and I am interested in knowing the true weight. Please post your results when you get them.

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    05-15-2012 03:01 PM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Resolute View Post
    Curb weights are supposed to be with all fluids, including the gas tank. That's slightly different than saying a full tank of gas, mind you. The tank on our Golf is 14.5 gallons (I think), but like most gas tanks, when topped off it probably contains an extra gallon or two of gas.

    For comparison, my 350Z had a curb weight of 3188 lbs, and when bone stock with a full tank of gas, it weighed 3212 on race scales. It also could hold 19 gallons of gas even though it was spec'd with a 16 gallon gas tank. So, the actual weight with a full tank was very close to the curb weight, especially when the weight of an extra 3 gallons of gas is considered.

    I just picked up a 2 door basic R (no nav or sunroof) and will try and get it on some race scales with a full tank of gas. I'll be sure to report what it comes out to be.

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    That is a good thought there....I am trying to get on the scales at the race track I work at. A road course and they have a bunch of spec races there all the time. So one of the days the Tech guy is there and he has the scales set up I am gonna prod him to weigh my car...I am hoping next week at the latest

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    06-06-2012 01:13 PM #22
    Updated with Tyrol Mike's weights for the stock exhaust system.

    Stock downpipe weight 21lbs
    Stock catback weight 26lbs

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    06-06-2012 02:37 PM #23
    I realized, I forgot to post that my weight of 3274 at 1/8th tank was after a deleted my rear muffler. My rear muffler with tips and flapper valve, cut off right at the muffler, weighed exactly 19lbs. The new magnaflow tips and piping weighed right around 3lbs I think...so, add roughly 16lbs to my weight.

    For reference, this was done on a set of Longacre race scales

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    06-13-2012 05:01 AM #24
    Spare wheel/tire: 31lbs!

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    07-21-2012 09:34 PM #25
    ok weighed mine today on the scales at the Autobahn Country Club here in Joliet...private road course racing for those that do not know...here is what Bella weighed in at without me in her and about 5/8th's a tank with about 10lbs of stuff extra in her.....



    oh and the lost weight on the one front wheel was 1007...he said it is a weird thing these new scales are they constantly recheck the wieghts and reads lost when it is doing so..

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    07-22-2012 01:01 AM #26
    Nice thread...

    My loaded four door with half a tank of gas, and our Recaro baby seat in it was 3400 on a truck scale - so not super accurate but a useful guide.

    By placing the front of the car on the scales read 2040, and with the rear half of the car on the scale it was 1380...







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    08-16-2012 06:12 PM #27
    I finally got mine up on some Intercomp race scales today. For reference, mine is a base 2 door Golf R. I weighed with a full tank of gas which was filled up less than five miles from the shop right before I drove onto the scales. I prefer to weigh with a full tank because it's repeatable and allows for true comparison to the reported curb weight.

    The results:

    LF: 993
    RF: 1008
    LR: 652
    RR: 654

    Total: 3307 lbs

    This is a lower overall weight than expected and an excellent cross weight.

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  28. 10-01-2012 06:04 PM #28
    My 4dr DSG fully loaded Golf R with 1/2 a tank of fuel and 19x8 Talladega's weighed in at 3432lb (1560kg)
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  29. 10-01-2012 06:24 PM #29
    Also the 19"x8" Talladega with sportmaxx GT's on weigh in at 54.34lb (24.7kg) each!!
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    10-01-2012 10:37 PM #30
    Anybody know the weight of the stock hood?

    I'm trying to figure out if a carbon hood is worth the $$. I believe the Osir carbon hood is about 12 lbs...
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    10-02-2012 09:37 PM #31
    Anyone who has a hood off their car able to weigh one (looking at you iModR )?
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    11-13-2012 03:50 PM #32
    Has anyone weighed the stock rotors?

    Just got my set of aftermarket slotted rotors from Power Slot. The fronts weigh in at 26.10 lbs. each and the rears weigh in at 14.70 lbs. each. I wasn't planning on installing these guys until it's time for new pads, but if the weight difference is significant I may go ahead and do so.

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    11-13-2012 05:14 PM #33
    Just weighed my stock ones for you on my shipping scale. I never weighed my Adam's Sport II over slotted ones though. Bound to lose a few ounces with all those slots.

    Stock front rotor: 26lb 9oz
    Stock rear rotor: 14lb 13oz

    Looks like your power slot's are pretty much the same as stock and the slight variation in weights is based on scale calibration between yours and mine.


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    11-13-2012 09:46 PM #35
    Thanks, updated first post with the info.
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