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    Thread: Father, 9 year old daughter dead after speeding teen in Escalade mows them down.

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      04-07-2012 04:19 PM #1
      This was 5 minutes from my house. So sad.





      Quote Originally Posted by KTVU Channel 2
      CONCORD, Calif. —
      A father and his nine-year-old daughter were dead after being struck by a teenager driving a reportedly speeding car through a busy intersection in Concord Saturday morning, according to authorities on scene.
      At around 9:30 a.m., the man, his daughter and another girl, 12, were riding bicycles near the intersection of Oak Grove Rd. and Treat Blvd. when a car, reported by witnesses to be speeding, lost control, hit a fire hydrant and then the three pedestrians before crashing into a brick building across the street from the Ygnacio Valley Shopping Center.
      The father died at the scene, according to Fire Marshal Lewis Broschard of the Contra Costa County Fire Protection District.
      Both of the girls were hurt -- the nine year old was critically injured -- and taken to John Muir Medical Center, where the youngest later died from her injuries.
      The 12-year-old girl was being treated for minor-to-moderate injuries. Broschard said the girl's relation to the other two was unknown Saturday morning.
      The driver of the vehicle sustained minor injuries and was transported to a local hospital for treatment, Broschard said.
      The intersection was closed after the accident and was expected to remain shut down until 5 p.m. while the incident was investigated Saturday.

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      04-07-2012 04:21 PM #2
      That is horrible.

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      04-07-2012 04:23 PM #3
      I first heard about it from our local webpage, claycord.com. The comments are.....interesting to say the least.

      http://claycord.com/2012/04/07/four-...erson-is-dead/

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      04-07-2012 04:25 PM #4
      There are places to speed. This was obviously not one of them. These kind of things shouldn't happen. Ever.

      RIP. You never just kill 2 people; those who are closest die a little inside too.
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      04-07-2012 04:28 PM #5
      My condolences.

      I hope the teenager burns.
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      04-07-2012 04:31 PM #6
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    7. 04-07-2012 04:31 PM #7
      holy **** did she hit a fire hydrant

      captain obvious strikes again!
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      04-07-2012 04:34 PM #8
      Sad times.

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      04-07-2012 04:35 PM #9
      Okay if this guy doesn't go to jail then something's seriously wrong with our penal system...

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      04-07-2012 04:40 PM #10
      I hope the driver rots in jail. This crap happens way to often - just yesterday 2 teens driving an Escalade EXT in downtown Toronto were racing it down very busy streets.
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      04-07-2012 04:59 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by mike02467 View Post
      Okay if this guy doesn't go to jail then something's seriously wrong with our penal system...
      That chick who killed her kid and threw it in a dumpster walked....

      OJ trial anyone....


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      04-07-2012 05:10 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      My condolences.

      I hope the teenager burns.
      FYI my native town in Hungary had seen 470 burnings at the stake
      between the 12th to the 17th century. It is an eerie feeling to know
      that the square where i was feeding pigeons with granny had been
      the very site of one of these. For lese-majesty they also did burning
      with dousing, so one fellow died over 5 hours. Perhaps this felllow's
      parents should get the same:


    13. 04-07-2012 05:10 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by AggvGtivr6 View Post
      That chick who killed her kid and threw it in a dumpster walked....

      OJ trial anyone....
      The 'mother' who basically put her child in the washing machine will most likely walk too.
      This country is too soft on a lot of things.

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      04-07-2012 05:11 PM #15
      No alcohol? Daylight hours?? WTF??

      Not that those would be an excuse, but it's hard to believe that stupidity alone caused all this calamity.... even though it was a teenager driving.

      Whatever the case, it's a terribly sad, sad story.

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      04-07-2012 05:14 PM #17
      Was the teen texting?
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      04-07-2012 05:18 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by freedomperiod View Post
      No alcohol? Daylight hours?? WTF??
      might have been a female driver...

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      04-07-2012 05:39 PM #20
      sad day for a few families
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      04-07-2012 05:48 PM #21
      this may come off as cruel, but if i took my 9 year old for a bike ride through a busily trafficked intersection, i would probably be stopped, harassed, and ticketed. i would never take someone else's kid on such a trip.

      although it's unlikely anyone need excuse the driver no matter the circumstances, i'm curious how much heavier the hatred/rush to judgement is b/c of the sclade. if it was a prius, would the reaction be quite so vitriolic?

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      04-07-2012 06:24 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by roadtripper View Post
      this may come off as cruel, but if i took my 9 year old for a bike ride through a busily trafficked intersection, i would probably be stopped, harassed, and ticketed. i would never take someone else's kid on such a trip.
      Nothing implies they were riding on the street. The sidewalk is wide enough to accommodate them easily. To cause the amount of damage he did, he must have been doing well over the posted speed limit.


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      04-07-2012 06:25 PM #23
      accidents happen. Thats why they are called an accident.

      Let's get over this obsession of "justice" and look at things as they are.
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      04-07-2012 06:32 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Mrdeezy View Post
      accidents happen. Thats why they are called an accident.

      Let's get over this obsession of "justice" and look at things as they are.
      QFT douche. This was obviously no mere "accident".

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      04-07-2012 06:32 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by mike02467 View Post
      Okay if this guy doesn't go to jail then something's seriously wrong with our penal system...
      Lol you said "Penal".


      Hope the kid gets death sentence. He deserves it.

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      04-07-2012 06:37 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Mrdeezy View Post
      accidents happen. Thats why they are called an accident.

      Let's get over this obsession of "justice" and look at things as they are.
      Accidents assume no fault on either side. This was not an accident- this was an event spurred by gross negligence.

    26. 04-07-2012 06:40 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Mrdeezy View Post
      accidents happen. Thats why they are called an accident.

      Let's get over this obsession of "justice" and look at things as they are.

      Really?
      Are you that dense? Or just extremely young?

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      04-07-2012 06:41 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by PsyberVW View Post
      Accidents assume no fault on either side. This was not an accident- this was an event spurred by gross negligence.
      Thank you for steering this thread back into the land of reality.
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    28. 04-07-2012 06:44 PM #29
      I find it hard to believe that people want to compare the SUV driver to murderers who walk. There is a differece between planning and intentionally killing somebody and a dumb ass kid who crashes into something, which in this case just happens to be people. 90% of teenage drivers drive just as stupid as this kid, the difference is that most of them just didn't happen to hit a pedestrian, or if they did it's usually in a Civic or a golf, not a giant SUV. Who knows if it even was the kids fault, people on bicycles do some stupid **** at times, and if it is his fault he deserves the 2 counts of manslaughter or negligent homicide or whatever it is but he's not a murderer

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      04-07-2012 06:50 PM #30
      Gee whiz, that sure was a short trip back to reality!
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      04-07-2012 06:53 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by blackvento36 View Post
      I find it hard to believe that people want to compare the SUV driver to murderers who walk. There is a differece between planning and intentionally killing somebody and a dumb ass kid who crashes into something, which in this case just happens to be people. 90% of teenage drivers drive just as stupid as this kid, the difference is that most of them just didn't happen to hit a pedestrian, or if they did it's usually in a Civic or a golf, not a giant SUV. Who knows if it even was the kids fault, people on bicycles do some stupid **** at times, and if it is his fault he deserves the 2 counts of manslaughter or negligent homicide or whatever it is but he's not a murderer
      Everybody is responsible for their actions. We had this debate in class a few weeks ago, and its ridiculous the amount of people that believe if you're young and stupid you should get away with ****. Just ridiculous. EVERYONE is accountable for EVERYTHING they do.

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      04-07-2012 06:54 PM #32
      The posted speed limit is 45 MPH; which means that the vehicle could've been driven at 50 MPH, and BARELY been speeding. The damage to the suv looks about right for a 45-50mph crash. There are too many unknowns for any of us to rationally pass judgement. If this was a 25 MPH zone it would be a different story.

      I'm not saying that the driver wasn't grossly negligent, but I will admit that when I clicked on this thread; I didn't think that I was going to see an accident in a 45 MPH zone...

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      04-07-2012 06:56 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by dubinsincuwereindiapers View Post
      The posted speed limit is 45 MPH; which means that the vehicle could've been driven at 50 MPH, and BARELY been speeding. The damage to the suv looks about right for a 45-50mph crash. There are too many unknowns for any of us to rationally pass judgement. If this was a 25 MPH zone it would be a different story.

      I'm not saying that the driver wasn't grossly negligent, but I will admit that when I clicked on this thread; I didn't think that I was going to see an accident in a 45 MPH zone...
      Weird to have such a high speed limit in that kind of zone

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      04-07-2012 07:09 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      Weird to have such a high speed limit in that kind of zone
      I agree. However; we can't just assume that the driver of the suv is at fault, when someone was riding bicycle with a child on what pretty much amounts to a highway.
      What if the suv driver was cruising along at the posted speed limit, passing freely at speed through a green light, another car blew the red light or turned right on red without looking into the path of that suv, the suv driver then jerks the wheel to avoid the collision, ends up unintentionally plowing over these two?

      That was just one possible scenario.

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