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    1. Member Jims1592's Avatar
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      04-07-2012 09:27 PM #1
      I'm second guessing getting stage 1 because of the stuff iv been reading online. Anyone have any problems with there DSG transmission after stage 1? Also my car only has 5,000 miles on in.

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      04-07-2012 09:34 PM #2
      no

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      04-07-2012 09:40 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by 2011VWTDI View Post
      no
      this

      I quit reading about all the threads people post about their complaints. It seems as if people only post when there is something wrong with their cars, which makes people scared of something they shouldn't be. You rarely see a thread about somebody praising how their DSG and how it well it works with a stage 1 tune... but always when there is a problem... my $.02
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      04-07-2012 09:48 PM #4
      ok thats good to hear. the thing that fu*ked me up was, that the dsg transmission is only rated for 258 lbs TQ(vw standers) and stage 1 is 305. if there was a problem apr wouldn't of produced it. ok had a little scare but back on track now haha made the appointment for wednesday the 11 to get stage 1 last week, wont be doing any canceling

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      04-07-2012 09:52 PM #5
      It will handle it for sure. There are guys on here running Stage 3 (~400 lb ft of torque) with their DSGs with no problems. It's a tough transmission!
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      04-07-2012 09:55 PM #6
      because of increased TQ you have to change the tranny fluid more often or is that another scare tactic

      400 lbs not worried anymore

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      04-07-2012 09:57 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Jims1592 View Post
      because of increased TQ you have to change the tranny fluid more often or is that another scare tactic

      400 lbs not worried anymore
      Nope. 40K should be enough. I have that service coming up in about 3000 miles. Yay. NOT!
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      04-07-2012 10:02 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by MK6GTI View Post
      Nope. 40K should be enough. I have that service coming up in about 3000 miles. Yay. NOT!
      yea isn't it like $800 or something, i have 35,000 miles before i have to worry about that

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      04-07-2012 10:04 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Jims1592 View Post
      yea isn't it like $800 or something, i have 35,000 miles before i have to worry about that
      $350 for the DSG service. The 40K service can be done for under $100 if you do it yourself.
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      04-07-2012 10:06 PM #10
      Stage 1 you will not get 305 number with DSG. Its limited to 258 by VW. REVO has DSG flash, I am not sure if allows you 305 or more. Many people run Dyno after, results shows max 258. I have TDI with stage 1, It feels like more than 258 (236 factory with tdi).

      DGS (6 spd. wet clutch) can handle more than 400+hp (check R section, one guy (TEFF) has r with dsg (same as GTI) and running 618 tq.

      Not the same trany but remember Bugatti Veyron has DSG as well...

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      04-07-2012 10:10 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by MK6GTI View Post
      $350 for the DSG service. The 40K service can be done for under $100 if you do it yourself.
      Didn't know that but its good to know

      Quote Originally Posted by 2011VWTDI View Post
      Stage 1 you will not get 305 number with DSG. Its limited to 258 by VW. REVO has DSG flash, I am not sure if allows you 305 or more. Many people run Dyno after, results shows max 258. I have TDI with stage 1, It feels like more than 258 (236 factory with tdi).

      DGS (6 spd. wet clutch) can handle more than 400+hp (check R section, one guy (TEFF) has r with dsg (same as GTI) and running 618 tq.

      Not the same trany but remember Bugatti Veyron has DSG as well...
      why does apr advertise 305 lb tq then?

      http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_up...tsi_trans.html

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      04-07-2012 10:13 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Jims1592 View Post
      Didn't know that but its good to know



      why does apr advertise 305 lb tq then?

      http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_up...tsi_trans.html


      REVO advertise 289 for TDI as well. As I said, some people done DYNO and results was 258....

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      04-07-2012 10:15 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by 2011VWTDI View Post
      REVO advertise 289 for TDI as well. As I said, some people done DYNO and results was 258....
      so what your saying is there's a little false advertising is going on
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      04-07-2012 10:22 PM #14
      618!?!?!? that is amazing

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      04-07-2012 10:26 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Booger Sugar MKVI View Post
      618!?!?!? that is amazing
      Here it is..

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...R-from-Romania

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      04-07-2012 10:32 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by 2011VWTDI View Post
      just trolled over there that thing is ridiculous

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      04-07-2012 10:40 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by 2011VWTDI View Post

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      04-07-2012 11:45 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Jims1592 View Post
      so what your saying is there's a little false advertising is going on
      APR states that with a Stage 1 tune, you will make 305 at the crank. Since that is right off the engine, the transmission is out of the equation and therefore their advertising is correct.

      However I find it hard to believe that the DSG limits to 258. That makes no sense at all.
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      04-08-2012 12:27 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by gravis86 View Post
      APR states that with a Stage 1 tune, you will make 305 at the crank. Since that is right off the engine, the transmission is out of the equation and therefore their advertising is correct.

      However I find it hard to believe that the DSG limits to 258. That makes no sense at all.
      There is a limit, but people are dynoing what they're supposed to be getting from their tunes, so not sure if something's being ignored in the ECU or what.

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      04-08-2012 12:00 PM #20
      according to WIKI:

      the DSG on the GTI is paired with car that have up to 260 lb-tq, that does not mean it is a limit...

      here is the link:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-Shift_Gearbox

      there is some more in on that here:

      http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/DSG-faq-VW-Audi.htm

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