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Thread: all the RAGE!! 1.8T using 2.0tsi coil packs for better spark ???

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    04-12-2012 12:36 AM #36
    Can we get any confirmation as to which adapters fit the AMU/BEA motors while retaining the mess on top of the 3rd & 4th cylinder coilpack/engine cover?

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    04-12-2012 01:08 AM #37
    AMU uses the v1.3
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    04-12-2012 02:16 AM #38
    I just got my coil packs from Username :beeyond (http://www.whanab.com/) and they are nice, OEM vw with the metal bottoms and I got them quick as hell!! I just put them in and the car does run alot smoother and I havent even regapped the plugs . . . What gap size do you guys use on a chipped 225TT(ko4s) ??

    Thx

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    04-12-2012 07:51 AM #40
    Quote Originally Posted by jason bouchard View Post
    I just got my coil packs from Username :beeyond (http://www.whanab.com/) and they are nice, OEM vw with the metal bottoms and I got them quick as hell!! I just put them in and the car does run alot smoother and I havent even regapped the plugs . . . What gap size do you guys use on a chipped 225TT(ko4s) ??

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    04-12-2012 03:53 PM #41
    Quote Originally Posted by jason bouchard View Post
    http://www.etektuning.com/integrated...fsi-coilpacks/ 149 + shipping


    tt stuff 69$
    http://www.ttstuff.com/mm5/merchant....ry_Code=T1PENI

    CAN. site 149$ USD shipped to USA
    http://pgperformance.com/integrated-...coilpacks.html

    I'm not sure which one I'm gonna order from
    Just saying . . .
    Just got mine from PG Performance - Free Shipping to North America and if you register with them prior to purchase, you can get a 5% discount. It came to $143 shipped.

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  7. 04-12-2012 06:15 PM #42
    Guys stop making me want to buy these! Question though, with these adaptors, and new coil packs, how are the new coil packs held down? I saw the Played (or maybe someone else) had a bracket go over the coilpack and bolted down into the adapter...

  8. 04-12-2012 06:36 PM #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayizdaman View Post
    Guys stop making me want to buy these! Question though, with these adaptors, and new coil packs, how are the new coil packs held down? I saw the Played (or maybe someone else) had a bracket go over the coilpack and bolted down into the adapter...
    I had a setup like that but decided to change to the IE adapters because I thought there might be too much heat buildup. IE adapters arrived today.

    Old fitment:

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    04-12-2012 07:39 PM #44
    Where do you guys move that vacuum thingy that sit on top of #4??

    Just a wondering...

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    04-12-2012 07:41 PM #45
    I relocated mine underneath the battery tray.
    Also the hold downs aren't necessary because the tolerances on the adapters are so tight.
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    04-12-2012 11:22 PM #46
    Quote Originally Posted by 01ttgt28 View Post
    I think he means ie

    No. I believe Ina makes the 034. Ie is a knock off.
    Last edited by speed51133!; 04-13-2012 at 10:26 AM. Reason: added the quote

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    04-13-2012 12:20 AM #47
    Quote Originally Posted by speed51133! View Post
    No. I believe Ina makes the 034. Ie is a knock off.

    Its just a piece of metal and INA and most of the other manufacturers/ sellers are charging too much . . .

    Taking advantage of the wave of people wanting this mod. . . At least they aren't over charging on the coil packs themselves

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    04-13-2012 01:46 AM #48
    didnt know INA made v1.3 style until now but oh well. yeah i think its ridiculous for what you pay for these. they should only be 50 tops. im hoping my idle will improve though.

  14. 04-13-2012 07:24 AM #49
    For street use the unsupported coilpacks are probably fine, but I track my car so I need the extra support to avoid failure. IE is a solid supporter of this marque and do much development and innovation. I have no problem with their pricing - this is a well designed and manufactured piece.

  15. 04-13-2012 07:41 AM #50
    Quote Originally Posted by warranty225cpe View Post
    You gotta SEARCH FIRST when you have questions that we have been over MANY times.
    The people selling these say they have identical internals to the 1.8t packs. I have seen NO evidence these are any better than stock coil packs - certainly no scientifically verifiable evidence. I run peak of 27lb of boost, high timing and .044 gap on stock 1.8t Coil packs... IMO this is just the fad of the moment.

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    04-13-2012 07:45 AM #51
    Quote Originally Posted by spinnetti View Post
    The people selling these say they have identical internals to the 1.8t packs. I have seen NO evidence these are any better than stock coil packs - certainly no scientifically verifiable evidence. I run peak of 27lb of boost, high timing and .044 gap on stock 1.8t Coil packs... IMO this is just the fad of the moment.
    They are a hell of a lot cheaper to replace in the future. That was the selling point for me
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    04-13-2012 09:55 AM #52
    Quote Originally Posted by jason bouchard View Post
    Its just a piece of metal and INA and most of the other manufacturers/ sellers are charging too much . . .

    Taking advantage of the wave of people wanting this mod. . . At least they aren't over charging on the coil packs themselves
    is it really a piece of metal?
    i mean it has a 3 holes in it also. the center hole also has slots cut in it. it also is in a needed shape.

    your argument of it being a piece of metal is the most assinine argument I have seen in a while.
    With that logic you can say IE's cams are just hunks of metal. Pistons are just slugs of metal. A home is just a pile of wood and cement. You are just a bag of water and protien.

    If the price is so outrageous, people should not be buying them. People DO buy them, so that right there tells you the price is fine.

    80-90$ for 4 pieces of metal isnt really that much. If you were to go to metal supplier and ask for half inch plate in a 12inx6in section of aluminum they would charge you in the range of 30$. The would be enough material to make you a set of 4, maybe more, but for sure not 8.

    Paying 50$ to have the pieces cut, the holes drilled, slots cut all on tooling that costs over $10,000, THEN have it annodized and a gaurentee it will fit......

    tell me, who is the unrealistic one with his head up his ass?

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    04-13-2012 10:05 AM #53
    Oh don't forget the longer bolts to hold them down!!!
    Sometimes you don't realize how much designing goes into simple things. Not to mention how much machining is done to get the tolerances so fine. I paid 85 shipped for 4 and bolts. You figure 20 for each spacer and 5 for bolts. That's more then reasonable in my eyes.
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  19. 04-17-2012 03:14 PM #54
    Sorry to keep bumping this, but do you also need to actually upgrade your actual coil wiring as well? I.E. makes it seem as if you do...

    I was planning on just getting the Tiguan Adapter or just wrapping the wiring up in thermal wrap, what did everyone else use?

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    04-17-2012 03:24 PM #55
    the wiring kit is only for cars that have a different setup. (1997-1999.5 B5 Audi A4 1.8T ( AEB Engine Code)

    if you have an mk4 vw golf/jetta/gti you dont need it.

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    04-17-2012 04:11 PM #56
    If your harness connectors are 4 pin they are plug and play. The b5 1.8t are 3 pin and therefore need to be switched. All TT's will work with these.
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    04-17-2012 11:29 PM #57
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    04-17-2012 11:43 PM #58
    Quote Originally Posted by darrenbyrnes View Post
    Just got mine from PG Performance - Free Shipping to North America and if you register with them prior to purchase, you can get a 5% discount. It came to $143 shipped.


    that is a great price; only question did you buy the SQUARE or ROUND spacers as all i saw was round ??

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    04-18-2012 01:00 AM #59
    Quote Originally Posted by beeyond View Post
    that is a great price; only question did you buy the SQUARE or ROUND spacers as all i saw was round ??

    I went round and raw. Not really trying to "bling up" my engine bay. The square ones look good though...

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    You can always swap out valve covers to work with the circle ones
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    04-18-2012 11:44 AM #61
    Uh, did I f*ck up and get the wrong adapters?? I thought they were pretty much all the same except for the outward appearance - holes drilled in the same spots etc.

    I have an ATC engine...

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    All of them are the same just some are square and others circular.
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    04-18-2012 12:29 PM #63
    Quote Originally Posted by PLAYED TT View Post
    All of them are the same just some are square and others circular.
    That's what I thought...thanks!

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    04-18-2012 12:54 PM #64
    they are not the same.
    the valve covers are different. some have round holes, some valve covers have square holes.
    if you use the round adapters on a square hole valve cover, you will have corners exposed, and allow crap to fall into the plug area.

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    I think he was talking about the layout of the spacer. All of the mounting holes should be the same
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    04-18-2012 10:54 PM #66
    Quote Originally Posted by speed51133! View Post
    they are not the same.
    the valve covers are different. some have round holes, some valve covers have square holes.
    if you use the round adapters on a square hole valve cover, you will have corners exposed, and allow crap to fall into the plug area.
    And, of course, I have the square holes. I called PG Performance and...crisis averted. They will get me the square adapters for $10 more.

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    04-19-2012 10:10 AM #67
    Quote Originally Posted by darrenbyrnes View Post
    And, of course, I have the square holes. I called PG Performance and...crisis averted. They will get me the square adapters for $10 more.

    I thought at one time the square were more money then the round now the they are the

    same price......





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    04-19-2012 10:40 AM #68
    Quote Originally Posted by beeyond View Post
    I thought at one time the square were more money then the round now the they are the

    same price......
    I see that the price of the round ones have been increased to the same price as the square ones now. Round used to be $70 where the square ones were $80.
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    04-19-2012 11:19 AM #69
    Quote Originally Posted by darrenbyrnes View Post
    I see that the price of the round ones have been increased to the same price as the square ones now. Round used to be $70 where the square ones were $80.
    you still received an excellent price..... they just bought them at a lower price and not raised their price up which is decent of them.....

    have a good one..

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    05-04-2012 10:02 PM #70
    I just bought some from O'Reilly Auto and they are BWD or Borg Warners. They look like the Red ones but are black. Pulled one out of the box and noticed they did not have the Square Hold downs with provision to bolt them down. They said it is what is called for my 2002 AMU. Are these not good to use?

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