mk1 frame notching

[WaStateKillerBee]

You say that like Washington isn't filled with douchebags..

Thank you skidplate! haha freak is a brodozer driving Dbag with sand in his vag. It's like he has nothing better to do then be an a****le on the vortex. I have been nice and asked a genuine question in a thread before, and freak responded with a d*** comment. With all that said, I would still get the notch done by a pro.

[-freak-]

Thank you skidplate! haha freak is a brodozer driving Dbag with sand in his vag. It's like he has nothing better to do then be an a****le on the vortex. I have been nice and asked a genuine question in a thread before, and freak responded with a d*** comment. With all that said, I would still get the notch done by a pro.

[-freak-]

Thank you skidplate! haha freak is a brodozer driving Dbag with sand in his vag. It's like he has nothing better to do then be an a****le on the vortex. I have been nice and asked a genuine question in a thread before, and freak responded with a d*** comment. With all that said, I would still get the notch done by a pro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0&ob=av2n

[WaStateKillerBee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0&ob=av2n

Oh know way this is my cut! Freak thanks for making my day and proving my point.

[Us2bA4dr]

freak got my dog pregnant..

[doppelfaust]

How dare you suggest they safely modify their vehicles. That's really a d!ck maneuver sir...

Since we're making suggestions for frame notching, why not use PVC pipe in the notch to keep weight down?

[AKrett]

What's the point of asking for advise if your not gonna take what's given from the select few trained professionals on here.

[Us2bA4dr]

What's the point of asking for advise if your not gonna take what's given from the select few trained professionals on here.

because it is not what they want to hear...

[AKrett]

because it is not what they want to hear...

Or because they deem it too expensive. Even though they have not actually gone and got a quote from a qualified shop.

[ValveCoverGasket]

Or because they deem it too expensive.

no one spends any amount of serious money on a mk1. or i guess not "no one" but hardly anyone does it seems...

[Vicious-S]

Not gonna read all the bs, just gonna post my real-world experience...

Been rocking a notched frame in both my mk1 and mk3 for over a year now with ZERO problems. Hit some huge potholes, and a curb once (in my mk3) with ZERO issues in the unibody's structural integrity. I personally know at least 5 other people with notched frames (mk1-mk4) with the same results... well, I don't think they've hit a curb yet, ha!

Riding on blown shocks is more dangerous than notching the frame for the axle.

[AKrett]

Not gonna read all the bs, just gonna post my real-world experience...

Riding on blown shocks is more dangerous than notching the frame for the axle.

Not gonna quote all the BS, just gonna reply based on my internet experience.

Stop posting

[Vicious-S]

Nope!

[VWM4YH3M]

jesus

[skidplate]

Thank you skidplate! haha freak is a brodozer driving Dbag with sand in his vag. It's like he has nothing better to do then be an a****le on the vortex. I have been nice and asked a genuine question in a thread before, and freak responded with a d*** comment. With all that said, I would still get the notch done by a pro.

Now I'm not saying Chris is a bad guy. I've met him once and he seemed nice enough to me, but the WA elitist attitude is retarded. And as far as the frame notching is concerned I would suggest listening to him and Andy (Akrett) as they do this stuff for a living.

[16volt]

-freak- got my washing machine pregnant.

[VWM4YH3M]

i need a welder. i have everything else i need, but dont want to start this an not be able to drive it due to it not being reinforced

[simon-says]

[Vicious-S]

i need a welder. i have everything else i need, but dont want to start this an not be able to drive it due to it not being reinforced

You won't have any problems just driving it. The main reason for welding up the notch is to keep **** from getting into the "frame rails". I don't know how this would affect any sort of impact damage, though. So don't get in a wreck.

[scir036trs]

You won't have any problems just driving it. The main reason for welding up the notch is to keep **** from getting into the "frame rails". I don't know how this would affect any sort of impact damage, though. So don't get in a wreck.

Really?... the only reason to weld it up is to keep crap out of the frame rails?....
Dude stop giving retarded advice! Weld em up for frame intergity! do it right the first time!

[AKrett]

You won't have any problems just driving it. The main reason for welding up the notch is to keep **** from getting into the "frame rails".

ARE YOU FU(KING KINDDING ME?? I mean this in the nicest way possible.... You have got to be the dumbest person on here in long time! Please occupy your time playing in traffic.

[volkspapa]

I'm only here to see if anyone has something useful to contribute because I am interested in the process that a paid shop would go through regardless...waiting...

Also curious if there is a liability benefit of having a shop do it versus doing it at home...other then having someone else to blame. I don't think most shops insurance would cover faulty work on such a thing but I digress.

[Us2bA4dr]

Also curious if there is a liability benefit of having a shop do it versus doing it at home...other then having someone else to blame. I don't think most shops insurance would cover faulty work on such a thing but I digress.

this comment suggests you do it at home..

[volkspapa]

this comment suggests you do it at home..

Wouldn't cut a frame myself. Thanks for that useful contribution

[ValveCoverGasket]

Wouldn't cut a frame myself. Thanks for that useful contribution

its really not rocket science.

i wouldnt do it in my driveway in the rain, but with the right equipment theres not a lot to it....

[Spray Junkie]

Jeeezus

Okay, body man here.

There is some merit to what some are saying, i.e. AKrett and FREAK. It should be done properly to keep your car from wrapping itself around you, or inserting the engine in your lap in an accident. Those rails are designed to keep you safe. However

If you get in an accident with a 30 year old tin can vs a brodozer or an SUV, that notch being welded ain't going to do much. Just don't get hit head on or rear end someone while doing 80 and you'lle be fine.....But yeah, weld it up

[Us2bA4dr]

Wouldn't cut a frame myself. Thanks for that useful contribution

oh if you knew what i was getting at, you would find it very useful..

[wishuhadmyvw]

I'm only here to see if anyone has something useful to contribute because I am interested in the process that a paid shop would go through regardless...waiting...

Also curious if there is a liability benefit of having a shop do it versus doing it at home...other then having someone else to blame. I don't think most shops insurance would cover faulty work on such a thing but I digress.

Wouldn't cut a frame myself. Thanks for that useful contribution

it was a useful piece of advice, no need to get all bent outta shape. It's all been explained by Akrett and freak on how to actually do it correctly. And I am sure if you were legitimately interested you could PM them and have a adult conversation that way versus the kindercare one in this thread.

[SKIDMRK]

1 ohm.

[doppelfaust]

For the love of god people... It is a structural piece of your car.

All joking aside, please, please have a professional do the work. By cutting the frame rail you reduce the stength of the piece, without adding the correct amount of material and reinforcement back into this piece you are jeopardizing the integrity of the metal. For the sake of your car, your life, your friend's life or whomever happens to be in your vehicle if you do get in an accident do yourself a favor and get the work done by a qualified professional. A minor front end collision could total a vehicle that otherwise might be salvageable or kill/maim/hurt you in the process.

Is there no common sense left in the world?

[jiffyjetta]

damn hippies and your hole saws.

[-freak-]

this thread needs more pictures...

[volkspapa]

^ that's creepy lol

it was a useful piece of advice, no need to get all bent outta shape. It's all been explained by Akrett and freak on how to actually do it correctly. And I am sure if you were legitimately interested you could PM them and have a adult conversation that way versus the kindercare one in this thread.

You're right. It was foolish to think anyone would behave maturely in a forum. I don't see any logic in berating the people that ask about it. It seems to be a very different scene from the VW folk I'm used to

[wishuhadmyvw]

1 ohm.

If anyone actually new the real reason behind me askin that question, that entire thread it would make so much more sense. and you're a Dick mark, got a LED question for you, I'll hit you up on the FBook

[-freak-]

^ that's creepy lol



You're right. It was foolish to think anyone would behave maturely in a forum. I don't see any logic in berating the people that ask about it. It seems to be a very different scene from the VW folk I'm used to

I get frustrated when I see kids telling someone to just wing it and don't worry about welding it up. That $hit is nonsense.. Here is the thing with trying to have an actual shop do it. Lets say you get some shop to notch your frame, you get in an accident, someone gets hurt or killed and the insurance company or family goes after that shop because they want to put blame on that frame rail getting notched. I know there are shops out there doing it, but in my opinion that is pure stupidity on their part. People are sue happy now a days.. There has been 2 instances that I have offered to do notch work on here. 1 was to fix a shady a$$ notch for free that Meister did, but the kid opted to give him a second chance. Probably a bad choice on his part, but its on him now. The other was some kid that I told I would do for cheap to help him out but I never heard from him, sorry about his bad luck. I don't like doing notches for people because I don't necessarily believe in them.. Again, I do collison repair for a living and I have seen what happens to cars that are in hard front end hits that don't have notches in frame rails. If you are serious about doing a notch or having someone do a notch for you, MAKE SURE THEY KNOW HOW TO WELD!!!!! Anyone can take a holesaw to a frame rail, but not very many people at all are qualified to be welding on frame rails to ensure that there is enough penetration and structural integrity put back in to that rail once its notched.

Take my info for what its worth. DO NOT SKIMP ON A NOTCH PLEASE....