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    04-08-2012 11:13 PM #1
    So I recently had the privilege of installing the new INA VR6 race oil pan on my car. The unit that I have is a pre-production unit, but as far as i know the production version is more or less the exact same.

    main benefits of this pan.
    - extra ground clearance. this pan sits over an inch higher than an OEM 12v pan.
    - extra volume for increased cooling (7 liters of oil in my system without an external oil cooler).
    - baffled, to keep oil at the pick up for the track or windy roads (or even on long highway ramps).
    - fittings for oil return (front and rear), as well as for oil temp probe.
    - steel, so will be more durable (unlike the mk5 r32 unit).

    I'm not sure on pricing or availability, but if you are interest, please message Isaam.

    now for the install.

    first, here are 2 overview pics of the pan, so you can see how it looks. (all hail my Wurth spray bomb skills)





    and now two pics of the internals. you can see the proper trap door style baffles, as well as magnetic drain plug.





    now to give you a sense of the OEM pan, and how much clearance it has. Take note of the bottom of the pan in relationship to the bellhousing as well as the subframe.







    the biggest concern of course is that the OEM pan is the lowest point of the car, and sits lower than the subframe.

    now with the OEM pan removed, you can see the stock oil pump/pickup.





    now look at the mk5 r32 pump/pickup. It is instantly obvious how much higher it sits (and how much of my powdercoating came off, lol)








    and then.... drum roll please..................

    the INA pan installed.





    the most important pic, where you can clearly see that the pan is now higher than the subframe.



    Thats it for now. Unfortunately i didnt get before and after pics of the ground clearance with the car on the ground. But its just too hard to get a good pic of that. But there is probably 1 1/2 inches of additional clearance. The other thing is that I'm actually seeing a bit higher oil pressure now, which may be because of the fresh oil pump.

    If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask.

    I think this is a great product, and its nice to see companies like INA continue to support the VR6 platform.

    Here is a link to the album where the pics are stored in case you want to see the full size version of the pics.
    https://picasaweb.google.com/1012223...839/INAOilPan#

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    04-09-2012 10:46 PM #2
    im in for sure, any idea if it will work with a crank scraper? im sure it would.

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    04-10-2012 03:52 PM #3
    Is r32 pump required to run pan? Either way looks like a nice product

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    04-10-2012 04:46 PM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziptied View Post
    Is r32 pump required to run pan? Either way looks like a nice product
    Looks like it... It looks like the stock pumps' pickup is lower than the INA oil pan.
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    04-10-2012 05:19 PM #5
    this is awesome - any idea on the availability for public market, or is it going to be a custom order kind-of-thing?

    Either way, count me in as well. If the price is right I'd buy it yesterday
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    04-11-2012 08:48 AM #6
    Any word on price?

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    04-11-2012 10:55 AM #7
    interested
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    Hmmmm, will this be going into production soon? Def agreat looking product

    Sucks I just bought a new standard 12V OEM when I did my rebuild... ohwell.
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    04-11-2012 11:45 AM #9
    I find it interesting that the r32 oil pump is required with this pan. Is it just because of clearance issues?

    Id love to get one but keep my oem oil pump..

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    04-11-2012 12:26 PM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by mk3alltheway View Post
    I find it interesting that the r32 oil pump is required with this pan. Is it just because of clearance issues?

    Id love to get one but keep my oem oil pump..
    That's the thing, on the VR6 oil pump the pick-up is one piece with the pump itself. So the only pump with the higher pick-up is the R32 pump.

    If the pick-up was a bolt on like say a Mk3 2.0 (ABA), then a modified tube would be all you'd need.
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    04-11-2012 04:23 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty_2.0 View Post
    That's the thing, on the VR6 oil pump the pick-up is one piece with the pump itself. So the only pump with the higher pick-up is the R32 pump.
    Fair enough, as far as the higher oil pressure. Will that effect anything?

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    04-11-2012 09:28 PM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by mk3alltheway View Post
    I find it interesting that the r32 oil pump is required with this pan. Is it just because of clearance issues?

    Id love to get one but keep my oem oil pump..
    We designed these around the MKV R32 Oil Pump as it sits approx 30mm towards the pan rail than the MKIV/MKIII VR6 Oil Pumps. Not only does this allow extra ground clearance but being a truly engineered piece allowed us to add volume in areas not possible with the cast unit.

    Ball Park is going to be around $600 with the MKV R32 Oil pump, as always feed back is appreciated.
    Scott thanks so much for the write up!

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    04-11-2012 10:50 PM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Issam Abed View Post
    Scott thanks so much for the write up!
    you're quite welcome. its an awesome upgrade to my car.


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    04-12-2012 02:52 AM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Issam Abed View Post

    Ball Park is going to be around $600 with the MKV R32 Oil pump, as always feed back is appreciated.
    Scott thanks so much for the write up!
    Cost with out pump? I have an mk5 pump already for my engine build.
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    04-12-2012 09:22 AM #15
    Any idea on how soon this will be available...? Thinking I need to set aside some $$
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    04-12-2012 09:07 PM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by VR SEX View Post
    Cost with out pump? I have an mk5 pump already for my engine build.
    If you bought the pump you would know they are not cheap
    I want to MSRP them for $399 USD as that is what we have the 1.8T units going for.

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    Not bad at all. At 400 w/out pump it'd be more cost efficient to buy this then to make it. Simple but complex. I like it.
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    04-12-2012 09:28 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Issam Abed View Post
    If you bought the pump you would know they are not cheap
    I want to MSRP them for $399 USD as that is what we have the 1.8T units going for.
    Yea i was lucky enough to get it from 1stvwparts a while back for right smack around 200.00
    which isn't cheap i know
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  19. 04-13-2012 11:58 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Issam Abed View Post

    Ball Park is going to be around $600 with the MKV R32 Oil pump,



    $400 is a steal.
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    04-14-2012 01:52 PM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Issam Abed View Post
    We designed these around the MKV R32 Oil Pump as it sits approx 30mm towards the pan rail than the MKIV/MKIII VR6 Oil Pumps. Not only does this allow extra ground clearance but being a truly engineered piece allowed us to add volume in areas not possible with the cast unit.

    Ball Park is going to be around $600 with the MKV R32 Oil pump, as always feed back is appreciated.
    Scott thanks so much for the write up!
    holy fawk.....
    thanks for mentioning this the other night
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  21. 04-14-2012 04:10 PM #21
    in for updates. Wouldnt mind one of these

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    04-14-2012 06:22 PM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by WannabeVWguy View Post
    in for updates. Wouldnt mind one of these

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    04-14-2012 11:19 PM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by .therealvrt View Post
    holy fawk.....
    thanks for mentioning this the other night
    It slipped my mind , I swear

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    In for updates. My Mk4 .:R might want one.

  25. 04-21-2012 03:14 PM #25
    im in love how much for 1998 vr6


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    04-21-2012 03:48 PM #26
    Quote Originally Posted by llanowar View Post
    im in love how much for 1998 vr6
    Trying to keep the MSRP around $399 for the unit but with the extra material and labour to weld its proving tight. Seriously speaking how many of you want one of these?
    Jump on the list and tell a friend.
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    If the price is right id take one

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    04-21-2012 03:56 PM #28
    Quote Originally Posted by mk3alltheway View Post
    If the price is right id take one
    Lets call it $399 for now...
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    04-21-2012 04:27 PM #29
    Quote Originally Posted by INA View Post
    Lets call it $399 for now...
    Sounds good, been spreading the word amongst my 12V friends.

    So far me plus one interested.
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    04-21-2012 08:45 PM #30
    Quote Originally Posted by INA View Post
    Lets call it $399 for now...
    you should put this in the FI forum
    When can we call to place orders?
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    04-21-2012 11:05 PM #31
    Quote Originally Posted by VR SEX View Post
    you should put this in the FI forum
    When can we call to place orders?
    Maybe someone here can cross post in the FI forum? I do not want to do an official thread until we have the MKV R32 oil pumps in stock.

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    04-21-2012 11:49 PM #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Issam Abed View Post
    Maybe someone here can cross post in the FI forum? I do not want to do an official thread until we have the MKV R32 oil pumps in stock.
    done

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    04-22-2012 07:03 PM #33
    Im interested, just keep me posted. Cash in hands... will need the pub aswell.

    Also, just curious, i know with the mkv pan you had to drill a hole for the dip stick, im assuming this isnt the case for these pans?

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    04-22-2012 07:22 PM #34
    Quote Originally Posted by INA View Post
    Lets call it $399 for now...
    For the r32 pump and the pan?

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    04-22-2012 09:38 PM #35
    Quote Originally Posted by mk3alltheway View Post
    For the r32 pump and the pan?
    Don't we all wish..... lol.

    He's talking pan on it's own.
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