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    Thread: Stay in my comfort zone or move up? (2 wheel content)

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      04-09-2012 07:33 AM #1
      So with me coming back to the state the 17th two friends sent me pictures of their new (to them) bikes. I had a GSXR750 a few years ago and sold it. I now have an itch to get back on two wheels. My question is do you guys think I should stick with a 750 or bump it up to a 1000?

      I'd be looking for a GSXR 750 or a YZFR1 or ZX10R with 2006 - 2009, I don't really want to spend more the ~$8000.

      What does OT think stick to four wheels get a 750cc or a 1000cc?

      I have a feeling thins will probably be a conversation between me and Harma...

      Help me out!

      I'm open to other supersport suggestions...

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      04-09-2012 07:54 AM #2
      Are you going to daily the bike or just have it for canyon cruising, weekend fun?
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      04-09-2012 08:11 AM #3
      I'd stick with the 750 unless you really need the extra power. There's a reason the pros don't ride liter bikes.
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    4. 04-09-2012 08:15 AM #4
      I prefer the smallest displacement I can get away with. Why pay for all the extra power if you can rarely use it?

      To me, it's more fun to flog a small displacement bike than brief spurts from a larger displacement bike.

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      04-09-2012 08:31 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by A.Wilder View Post
      Are you going to daily the bike or just have it for canyon cruising, weekend fun?
      A little bit of all, since I live in Los Angeles the weather is nice almost year round. I will take it to work on nice days, followed by a canyon ride in the afternoon....


      Quote Originally Posted by bluerabbit0886 View Post
      I'd stick with the 750 unless you really need the extra power. There's a reason the pros don't ride liter bikes.
      They do now. (motoGP)

      I don't really need the extra power, but why not? the weight of the 750 and liter bikes is so close it makes no difference....

      Quote Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
      I prefer the smallest displacement I can get away with. Why pay for all the extra power if you can rarely use it?

      To me, it's more fun to flog a small displacement bike than brief spurts from a larger displacement bike.
      Agree to a degree, its can be a PITA constantly shifing a peaky 600 during a commute...


      I'm really torn on what I want, I never really liked Hondas but after reading the reviews on the 2008 CBR 1000RR, it's now iin contention...

      I need someone to say there buy that bike! I'm too indecisive.

      Ohh and I want a white motorcycle..

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      04-09-2012 08:54 AM #6
      You're in So Cal. You will fit in better driving one of these:



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      04-09-2012 08:59 AM #7
      Someone say SuperSport?



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      04-09-2012 09:04 AM #8
      What kind of riding do you want to do?

      I've been on two wheels for a little over ten years and have owned nearly every style of sport bike under the sun. I can say, for me, a 1000cc race rep is really lame on the street. Power is delivered fairly high in the rev range (unless you are looking at the v-twins on the market) and the ergos are annoying.

      Sounds like you are the type to go out and ride 100 miles or whatever in a weekend, if thats the case I would suggest one of the naked sports on the market. Yamaha FZ1 or Kawasaki Z1000 or similar. Not as much peak power, (more than a 600) but the meat of the delivery is much more accessible on the street. Other notable entries that would run you a bit more is the KTM Superduke, Aprilia Tuono, MV Brutale, Ducati Monster, etc.

    9. 04-09-2012 10:12 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by 92skirmishgti View Post
      Agree to a degree, its can be a PITA constantly shifing a peaky 600 during a commute...
      Right, which is why it's difficult to get opinions from others. I do not have to deal with the traffic you likely have to.

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      04-09-2012 10:14 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by leitmotif View Post
      You're in So Cal. You will fit in better driving one of these:



      Full disclosure: I really want a Zero Motorcycle.
      Saw this yesterday in the newspaper and I don't see much reason for this. Sure it is clean and doesn't cost a lot to run. But a regular motorcycle in that size is about 1/2 to 2/3rd the cost and gets over 50 mpg in almost any kind of riding. And unless you ride the Zero daily and thus charge it every day or two, I would wonder whether the batteries will hold a charge during the week for the occasional weekend ride.

      As for the original topic, a 600 is enough power for riding around the city and local highway riding. It will also give you less reason to feel the need to ride fast and dangerous.

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      04-09-2012 10:18 AM #11


      How comfortable are the bikes for you?

      I loved the 750. Its the only bike I would step up to.

      26k miles on the zx6r. Only problem I have had was the Stator.

      I rode a zx10r. It was a obscene amount of power. If you have self control its a fun bike. I had a safe ride and had fun. But I weigh half of you.

      Quote Originally Posted by TurboWraith View Post
      What kind of riding do you want to do?
      Sounds like you are the type to go out and ride 100 miles or whatever in a weekend, if thats the case I would suggest one of the naked sports on the market. Yamaha FZ1 or Kawasaki Z1000 or similar. Not as much peak power, (more than a 600) but the meat of the delivery is much more accessible on the street. Other notable entries that would run you a bit more is the KTM Superduke, Aprilia Tuono, MV Brutale, Ducati Monster, etc.
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      04-09-2012 10:24 AM #12
      Oh man, and think of insurance pricing. Check it.

      personally I would have started this in the Motorcycle area. I have read some great advice. Its just slow.

      a friend has this and many bikes., races track days. Loves this bike over all of his.

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      04-09-2012 10:36 AM #13
      If I were to buy a bike, I'd take a serious look at the RC 51


      Or a Monster



      But I drive like a douche when I am in a quick car, I would dead in days if I owned a bike.

    14. 04-09-2012 11:01 AM #14
      +1 on the monster.

      I had one (car accident changed my mind about two wheels) but I throughly enjoyed that bike.

      it was a 695. not nearly as fast as jap 600+ cc bikes. but it had a pretty flexible power band, and still more power then I could ever fully use. kind bridged the gap between peeky high rev bikes and low end torque like big twin cruisers.

      the brakes and suspension were awesome, as well as the sound.. I think I miss the sound the most

      insurance also considered it a "standard" rather then a sport bike so insurance was lower.

    15. 04-09-2012 11:44 AM #15
      +1 internets for a v twin. They have killer power bands for the street. RC 51 is on my "gonna own someday" list.

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      04-09-2012 11:49 AM #16
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      04-09-2012 11:50 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by hatetolovemydub View Post
      +1 internets for a v twin. They have killer power bands for the street. RC 51 is on my "gonna own someday" list.
      Every passing day I feel more like I'm "that guy" on the subject of V-twins. I cannot stand how they sound, where most people rave about it.
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      04-09-2012 11:52 AM #18
      I only ride a lowly single-cylinder... shame I don't have the balls to ride a real bike

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      04-09-2012 12:15 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by leitmotif View Post
      You're in So Cal. You will fit in better driving one of these:



      Full disclosure: I really want a Zero Motorcycle.
      No, I'm getting a motorcycle partially for the sound a a 4 banger reving past 13k.

      Quote Originally Posted by TurboWraith View Post
      What kind of riding do you want to do?

      I've been on two wheels for a little over ten years and have owned nearly every style of sport bike under the sun. I can say, for me, a 1000cc race rep is really lame on the street. Power is delivered fairly high in the rev range (unless you are looking at the v-twins on the market) and the ergos are annoying.

      Sounds like you are the type to go out and ride 100 miles or whatever in a weekend, if thats the case I would suggest one of the naked sports on the market. Yamaha FZ1 or Kawasaki Z1000 or similar. Not as much peak power, (more than a 600) but the meat of the delivery is much more accessible on the street. Other notable entries that would run you a bit more is the KTM Superduke, Aprilia Tuono, MV Brutale, Ducati Monster, etc.
      It's even worse on 600cc bikes. I also refuse to pay a premium for a Italian bike when its Japanese counter part will get the job done just as easily for half the price. On the subject of naked bikes, just really not all that into them. I a crotch rocket fan.



      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      Saw this yesterday in the newspaper and I don't see much reason for this. Sure it is clean and doesn't cost a lot to run. But a regular motorcycle in that size is about 1/2 to 2/3rd the cost and gets over 50 mpg in almost any kind of riding. And unless you ride the Zero daily and thus charge it every day or two, I would wonder whether the batteries will hold a charge during the week for the occasional weekend ride.

      As for the original topic, a 600 is enough power for riding around the city and local highway riding. It will also give you less reason to feel the need to ride fast and dangerous.
      Agree 600cc is "enough" power, but you cortrol that with you right hand. just because I have a liter bike doesn't mean I will be riding it balls out all of the time...


      Quote Originally Posted by hrama803 View Post


      How comfortable are the bikes for you?

      I loved the 750. Its the only bike I would step up to.

      26k miles on the zx6r. Only problem I have had was the Stator.

      I rode a zx10r. It was a obscene amount of power. If you have self control its a fun bike. I had a safe ride and had fun. But I weigh half of you.



      I had the 750 for a couple of years, I am fairly confident and capable on two wheels. I like having the obscene about of power under my control, thats the reason I want one...

      Quote Originally Posted by hrama803 View Post
      Oh man, and think of insurance pricing. Check it.

      personally I would have started this in the Motorcycle area. I have read some great advice. Its just slow.

      a friend has this and many bikes., races track days. Loves this bike over all of his.

      Insurance isn't too bad out here for bikes.

      Speaking of nakeds and motards, I'm fairly short at 5'7" so most of them have a seat hight too high for my personal comfort, and I don't dig em.

      Quote Originally Posted by GRNWNV View Post
      If I were to buy a bike, I'd take a serious look at the RC 51


      Or a Monster



      But I drive like a douche when I am in a quick car, I would dead in days if I owned a bike.
      You're in control of how you drive, you have to respect it or it will kill you with out hesitation.
      RC51 is cool but old. Not a duke fan.

      Quote Originally Posted by dj age one View Post
      +1 on the monster.

      I had one (car accident changed my mind about two wheels) but I throughly enjoyed that bike.

      it was a 695. not nearly as fast as jap 600+ cc bikes. but it had a pretty flexible power band, and still more power then I could ever fully use. kind bridged the gap between peeky high rev bikes and low end torque like big twin cruisers.

      the brakes and suspension were awesome, as well as the sound.. I think I miss the sound the most

      insurance also considered it a "standard" rather then a sport bike so insurance was lower.
      Any modern bike with 500cc or more will have enough power...


      Quote Originally Posted by turbinepowered View Post
      Every passing day I feel more like I'm "that guy" on the subject of V-twins. I cannot stand how they sound, where most people rave about it.
      Agreed v twins sound like crap!

      Quote Originally Posted by Metallitubby View Post
      I only ride a lowly single-cylinder... shame I don't have the balls to ride a real bike
      C'mon now, KTM's are badarse!

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      04-09-2012 12:19 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by 92skirmishgti View Post
      C'mon now, KTM's are badarse!
      Oh I know, but the mentality that "if it's not a sportbike, then it isn't ****" is overpowering on most forums.

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      04-09-2012 12:22 PM #21
      That's retarded, I appreciate things for what they are. And you can have a sh!t more fun hooning that around town than you can any sport bike.

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      04-09-2012 12:25 PM #22
      Sounds like you've already talked yourself into a 1000cc race rep.

      Pick the one you think looks coolest, they are all mostly the same. And be safe.

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      04-09-2012 12:39 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by 92skirmishgti View Post
      That's retarded
      Yessir.

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      04-09-2012 12:40 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by 92skirmishgti View Post
      Not a duke fan.
      That's not a Duke--this is


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      Quote Originally Posted by ab8349 View Post
      That's not a Duke--this is


      Yessir.

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      04-09-2012 01:02 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Metallitubby View Post
      Oh I know, but the mentality that "if it's not a sportbike, then it isn't ****" is overpowering on most forums.
      you feel that way here?

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      04-09-2012 01:10 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by hrama803 View Post
      you feel that way here?
      Outside of the moto/atv forum, yessir I does.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Metallitubby View Post
      Outside of the moto/atv forum, yessir I does.
      I thought you meant moto/atv.

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      04-09-2012 01:12 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by dubraycer36 View Post
      IMHO go with the middle ground.

      V-4 800cc. More of a sport touring platform, than a crotch rocket, very tame in traffic, but with a proper powerband for the weekend twisties.
      In the price range?

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      04-09-2012 01:20 PM #30
      The RC51 is amazingly uncomfortable and sucks for anything that doesn't constantly involve turns and getting off the bike. 30 minutes on a straight highway will make you regret life.

      My next bike is going to be a Triumph Speed Triple. 1kcc holigan bike. It's comfortable and fast.

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      04-09-2012 01:43 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by dubraycer36 View Post
      IMHO go with the middle ground.

      V-4 800cc. More of a sport touring platform, than a crotch rocket, very tame in traffic, but with a proper powerband for the weekend twisties.
      Can you say FAT PIG!

      I'm 5'7" at about 160lbs. That would be too much bike for me...

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      04-09-2012 02:22 PM #33
      No sane person needs a liter bike.

      Seriously.
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      04-09-2012 02:29 PM #34
      How old was your 750? Bikes have relatively the same power these past few years, but are significantly more powerful than their ancestors

      On another note, what I would suggest is getting an Ohlins or Penske rear shock, and sending the forks to GP Suspension for a full job, they can help with both, you will grow in skill much more safely with amazing suspension, which these bikes do not have unless you are 125lbs. You can skimp with a stiffer spring out back, springs for the front, but I would just do it, you get a smooth ride and handling only the 30k plus bikes can claim. Also, these bikes have poor tunes on purpose, to pass emissions in California. A power commander and dyno tune will fix this, and the bike will be safer, more responsive, faster, last longer, or have any characteristics you want.

      On an inline, I go with 1000 because the low end torque exists, so I can poke around at 3K when I want to without complaints, but certainly if you have never ridden a bike with power like this, do so before deciding if you should. Remember the hayabusa had 160hp when it came out, and a modern 1000 can put down 180, or more, tuned..
      Many experienced riders prefer twins as you will read, you can lazily ride more easily, wheelies and hooliganism can happen at lower speeds and more safely as power comes on smoother, and I can almost guarantee if you ride a torque monster twin you will then fall in love with the sound, but yes, full plastic variants are from ktm, aprilia, and ducati and cost big bucks, the big four are being lazy..

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      Move up to a Goldwing. Supporting evidence:



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