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    Thread: Grinding gears

    1. 04-09-2012 11:50 AM #1
      Hello all!

      So I've driven a manual trans for most of my life.... MKI GTI, MKII GTI, various trucks and now my MKVI GTI.

      I've never had a problem shifting in the past, but I sure do seem to grind geers a lot in this car. There are times when I shake my head at myself wondering what the heck I'm doing. Mostly during upshifts... And seems like 2nd to 3rd.

      I know this car gets a few complaints for the long clutch travel and admittedly I'm not the tallest dude on the planet - but even when I move the seat up a few notches I still tend to grind a bit.

      I'd hate to go to VW service and tell them I have a problem grinding gears because I know the look I'd get, but with my manual trans experience and never really having a problem in the past, I just can't help but wonder if there isn't an issue here.

      Any input? Appreciate it!

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      04-09-2012 11:52 AM #2
      Are you depressing the clutch all the way? Did you test drive the car before purchasing?
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      04-09-2012 11:53 AM #3
      Weird.. I'm short (around 5' 7") and this doesn't happen to me..

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      04-09-2012 12:04 PM #4
      My wife is 5'3" and she could not engage the clutch fully, so she has an auto.
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    5. 04-09-2012 12:24 PM #5
      Test drove before I purchased and rolled 24,000 miles on the way to work today. Car has been flawless.

      I always go to the floor with the clutch and it still seems like I get a grind or two during a daily drive.

      I'm 5'7" as well - If i was a noob, I'd totally chalk it up to driver error. But like I said I've always been in manual trans cars, always had dirtbikes/sportbikes, spent a lot of time on tractors with clutches etc... Just seems odd to me that I'm having this problem now.

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      04-09-2012 12:35 PM #6
      Depends if you are trying to shift very quickly or not. If you are really slamming through the gears there have been complaints from a few people. I remember reading a post by Halvie saying this is the only car he had trouble getting into third. I myself have an issue every once and a while if really trying to hammer through them.
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      04-09-2012 01:12 PM #7
      I sometimes buzz the gears going into 4th, but it generally amounts to not quite getting into gear before I start letting out the clutch. I keep reminding myself to delay a tad with the clutch in.

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      04-09-2012 01:16 PM #8
      Happens to me about once a week, almost always from 2nd to 3rd. Never had an issue in any other car.

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      04-09-2012 01:26 PM #9
      I have trouble getting the shifter into third on occasion, but that is a shifter mechanism issue I believe with mine.
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      04-09-2012 03:53 PM #10
      I've had manual transmissions all my life until i started looking for a used GTI early last year. I'm 5'7" and the clutch travel in my MKIV Jetta GLI was perfectly fine. But when I jumped into a few MKV GTI's to test drive, I found the clutch travel quite uncomfortable. I wasn't grinding gears, but the seat position I needed to be in was too close to the steering wheel. So I ended up purchasing a 2007 with DSG. The same happened a couple months ago when I went hunting for my MKVI. I was hoping the clutch travel had changed, but it didn't. So again I got a DSG.

      Thanks to VW for getting the dual clutch into the GTI's. If they had went with a regular automatic, I would never have bought one.
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      04-09-2012 03:57 PM #11
      Yup you've got to sit NASCAR style for sure. Like I said my wife can not physically operate the clutch pedal.
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      04-09-2012 03:58 PM #12
      Unless you're extremely short, you shouldn't have an issue depressing the clutch all the way.

      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      My wife is 5'3" and she could not engage the clutch fully, so she has an auto.
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      04-09-2012 03:58 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel Nuts View Post
      Unless you're extremely short, you shouldn't have an issue depressing the clutch all the way.



      Pictures of wife.
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      04-09-2012 04:00 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      You have my facebook bro.

      I want you to stalk me hard.
      I always get stuck at that picture with the 4 or 5 Playboy bunnies.....

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      04-09-2012 04:01 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel Nuts View Post
      I always get stumped at that picture with the 4 or 5 Playboy bunnies.....
      Lol wut? I got mad game son.
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      04-09-2012 04:02 PM #16
      Stuck. I meant stuck... You too quick.

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      04-09-2012 04:07 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel Nuts View Post
      Stuck. I meant stuck... You too quick.
      Skillz. Same here. That older one was the Air Force drill instructor who posed for playboy but was kicked out for it.
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      04-09-2012 04:10 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      Skillz. Same here. That older one was the Air Force drill instructor who posed for playboy but was kicked out for it.
      back on topic before a warning from our favorite mod.


      OP, practice. You'll get it.

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      04-09-2012 04:15 PM #19
      DSG ROCKS......

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      04-09-2012 04:17 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel Nuts View Post
      back on topic before a warning from our favorite mod.


      OP, practice. You'll get it.
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      04-09-2012 04:17 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by 2011VWTDI View Post
      DSG ROCKS......

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      04-09-2012 04:21 PM #22
      Vw 6 spd. Manual gearbox is pos...everybody has issues with it...

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      04-09-2012 04:22 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by 2011VWTDI View Post
      Vw 6 spd. Manual gearbox is pos...everybody has issues with it...
      Not going to transform this into a DSG vs. 6 speed argument.

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      04-09-2012 04:27 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel Nuts View Post
      Not going to transform this into a DSG vs. 6 speed argument.
      Damn...At least i tried...

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      04-09-2012 04:28 PM #25
      my car shifts fine

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      04-09-2012 04:31 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by 2011VWTDI View Post
      Damn...At least i tried...


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      04-09-2012 04:47 PM #27
      yea usually its the dsg guys bitchin'
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    28. 04-09-2012 05:18 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Socal87 View Post
      I sometimes buzz the gears going into 4th, but it generally amounts to not quite getting into gear before I start letting out the clutch. I keep reminding myself to delay a tad with the clutch in.
      This might be my issue - I'll make an effort to hold the clutch a little longer while shifting and see if it makes a difference.

      Thanks for all the input regardless!

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      04-09-2012 08:09 PM #29
      I occasionally grind 3rd as well, and it's usually when I'm hustling it. I too have only owned/driven manuals. Guess it's not just me.

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      04-09-2012 08:20 PM #30
      @Elliot,

      I have driven mine for over two years now. It still occasionally happens. Most of the time it is the 2nd to 3rd you mentioned. On very rare occasion it happens into reverse. I had the dealer look at it (as is expected they found nothing) and they said it may be the linkage needs adjustment. I just try to constantly remind myself to chill in between shifts and it happens much less now. I am planning on adjusting the shift after I get my Euro shift kit to (hopefully) smooth everything out.

      TL;DR

      Slow down a tick, and you should have very few problems.


      EDIT-- I seem to remember reading on Vortex that some folks change out the gearbox fluid to redline, or royal purple and claim an increase in shift smoothness.
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    31. 04-09-2012 10:25 PM #31
      slow your shifts down a notch the geabox cant take a shift like my k20z3 would

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      04-12-2012 10:46 PM #32
      I am going to do a more thorough review later, but if you are mechanically inclined you may consider getting the euro shift kit from ECS. It is an OEM Audi part, ES#2219718. I've only driven a bit thus far but I really like the difference. It feels much more solid and precise than it was before. I would recommend it if you dislike the stock shift profile.


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      04-13-2012 10:03 AM #33
      I've been driving a stick since I started driving 10+ years ago. I've had 2 Jetta's, 2 Audi's, a BMW, and this car. I have also had a similar experience-but it only happens once every couple of days so I chalk it up to my own driver error. I find I do it going into 2nd, but yah-it's definitely more grindy than even the TT that I had.

    34. 04-13-2012 01:17 PM #34
      My wife is 5' 2'' and she has no problem with the clutch setup in her GTI. I personally hate the engagement point (way too much travel), but it's not my daily driver...so be it. She's a terrible driver, but she hasn't grinded in 3rd enough to complain to me. I'd guess you guys have FUBAR transmissions.

      She used to complain about 3rd in her old Prelude (and that car did grind all the time, not just the 2-3 shift, but also going to 4th) but going on 2 years in her GTI I haven't heard a peep.

      You definitely don't need NASCAR seating to drive the car X.x...she's tiny and she drives it everyday....

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