New 2013 Porsche Cayenne GTS Revealed, Makes 420HP

[jason_kendall]

the old gens look much better... this looks like some asian cross over

[IgorRGTI]

It's just another one of those pointless comments such as "bring the Fiat 500 and I'll buy it instantly," or "how can the M5 be offered without a stick shift??!>!"





I wasn't quoting you so not quite sure where you got the idea I was speaking to you...Also, it's definitely not ludicrous..... much the same as me saying I'm going to buy a Boeing BBJ should I a) have a need for a corporate jet & b) have the money for it.

I'm not saying you're quoting me. But, you can find a 6MT GTS in the $30-40k range, so how is it a pointless comment?

$30-40k is affordable for a lot of people.

[Mike!]

I'm not saying you're quoting me. But, you can find a 6MT GTS in the $30-40k range, so how is it a pointless comment?

$30-40k is affordable for a lot of people.

If they're not bought new first, there can be no used ones later, for what it's worth.

[NightTrain EX]

I'm not saying you're quoting me. But, you can find a 6MT GTS in the $30-40k range, so how is it a pointless comment?

$30-40k is affordable for a lot of people.

I was quoting 2 different posts and made 2 separate statements. Every time you reply to me you reply to something that wasn't directed to you. This is getting frustrating, so just enjoy the rest of the thread.

[TigerinColorado]

Son, am disappoint. Definitely prefer the looks and style of the old Cayenne GTS.

YMMV.

[Inspector Detector]

Screw that fat ass, yuppy, bastardization, that, it's not a real Porshe:

[IgorRGTI]

I was quoting 2 different posts and made 2 separate statements. Every time you reply to me you reply to something that wasn't directed to you. This is getting frustrating, so just enjoy the rest of the thread.

So what if it wasn't directed at me, why can't I reply to or question your statement?

[NightTrain EX]

So what if it wasn't directed at me, why can't I reply to or question your statement?

Because you're NOT replying to the statements directed at YOU in addition to the ones that are directed at others...are you understanding how that can be frustrating?

[patrickvr6]

Because you're NOT replying to the statements directed at YOU in addition to the ones that are directed at others...are you understanding how that can be frustrating?

Why are you getting so frustrated with me?

[NightTrain EX]

Why are you getting so frustrated with me?

What you did there....I see it

[IgorRGTI]

Why are you getting so frustrated with me?

I'm not, I don't know what you're talking about....

[spoonie]

the tails have that sad, old, alero look to them.

otherwise, meh, its an suv. looks ok.

[BattleRabbit]

Screw that fat ass, yuppy, bastardization, that, it's not a real Porshe:

Excuse me, as the owner of a "real" Porsche(albiet a broken one), let me explain to you a little something about Porsche.

What Porsche does best is take something that ought not work, and make it work insanely well. The 356, especially the Pre-A cars, was heavily related to the Beetle. The beetle was not a car with sporting intentions. It made very little power, and the handling could be a bit spooky. Nonetheless, Porsche took the basic idea of it and made a sports car, and a very good one at that. 356s often get classed into higher displacement classes for vintage racing because they simply go and change direction better than they ought to. The 911 took the 356 idea and turned it to 11, then 12(911 RS), then 15(930), then 27(997 GT2 RS).

Fast forward to the early 2000s, and Porsche is looking to expand their product line. They add an SUV, but they wanted one that could do everything. The Cayenne can be used offroad, and it(for a stock unibody SUV, and not so much the GTS) is very capable. As it happens though, it also goes like the clappers. It is a format that shouldn't work, but with the GTS Porsche took something that shouldn't do what a sport sedan can do, and made it do that anyways. It's Porsche being Porsche just as they always have been. Just because it is an SUV and you don't like SUVs, that doesn't make it not a Porsche.

I hate to tell you, but there are people out there who hate track-day-loving, back-roads-hooning, sports car lovers as much as you hate tall "yuppie mobiles." Porsche has always made Porsches, and will for the foreseeable future. The Cayenne is a real Porsche, and I'm happy that it exists. May it rip about with alacrity on all surfaces until people stop buying them.

[bzcat]

So no more manual transmission for the GTS?

[Hawk]

I get that it's hypocritical to criticize an SUV driver for driving on the road rather then driving it off road, because Ferrari owners don't drive their 458 at 180mph everywhere either.

However.... when you take said SUV and give it the sports car treatment to me that's like taking a 458 and puting it on 26" off road tires and a 12" lift kit to make it amazing off road.

It's just a bit weird.

[Inspector Detector]

Excuse me, as the owner of a "real" Porsche(albiet a broken one), let me explain to you a little something about Porsche.

What Porsche does best is take something that ought not work, and make it work insanely well. The 356, especially the Pre-A cars, was heavily related to the Beetle..

Yes that's the way it should be. Ferdinand Porsche wanted to base a light weight sports car off his own creation. He certainly wasn't thinking about building a fat ass, luxo barge off it back then CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!!

[teutonicgoodness]

Red: yes

Lime Green: no

[BattleRabbit]

Yes that's the way it should be. Ferdinand Porsche wanted to base a light weight sports car off his own creation. He certainly wasn't thinking about building a fat ass, luxo barge off it back then CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!!

Excuse me? It's not like they made an SUV out of a 911. They applied Porsche TO the SUV concept. They did the Porsche thing very well.

Let's not forget that Ferdinand Porsche was also responsible for tanks, tank turrets, the first hybrid automobile, the beetle, a whole bunch of other forgotten rear engined compact cars. I don't think it's up to you to suppose what he might have wanted or not wanted. I'm saying that the Cayenne is an SUV by the Porsche principle.

Also, compare a 356 to virtually any of its contemporaries. Roll up windows? Sound deadening? You won't find those on an MGA or Triumph TR2. Porsche didn't like to let their vehicle's occupants suffer

[NoDubJustYet]

Excuse me? It's not like they made an SUV out of a 911. They applied Porsche TO the SUV concept. They did the Porsche thing very well.

Let's not forget that Ferdinand Porsche was also responsible for tanks, tank turrets, the first hybrid automobile, the beetle, a whole bunch of other forgotten rear engined compact cars. I don't think it's up to you to suppose what he might have wanted or not wanted. I'm saying that the Cayenne is an SUV by the Porsche principle.

Also, compare a 356 to virtually any of its contemporaries. Roll up windows? Sound deadening? You won't find those on an MGA or Triumph TR2. Porsche didn't like to let their vehicle's occupants suffer

How dare you use reason and facts!!

[BattleRabbit]

How dare you use reason and facts!!

For the sake of balancing out the universe: "needs moar low and a nevAr lose dood."

[Inspector Detector]

Also, compare a 356 to virtually any of its contemporaries. Roll up windows? Sound deadening? You won't find those on an MGA or Triumph TR2. Porsche didn't like to let their vehicle's occupants suffer

You're really walking off the ledge to defend the bastardization of Porsche here. Now the question is why does this remind of Cubby fans defending Sammy Sosa when he was obviously taking steroids?

[NoDubJustYet]

You're really walking off the ledge to defend the bastardization of Porsche here.

Please tell us all about the illustrious Porsche family... You seem to know so much about their engineering feats and everything they have ever worked on.

You'd better write a memo about your views and submit it to the company - they might not be aware of what they are "supposed to be."

[deagle]

looks like a built-in joey mod , kool

[Tiny4cyl]

Clicked to see a bunch of 420 jokes, only saw one, leaving ****ing disappointed

[Mike!]

Excuse me, as the owner of a "real" Porsche(albiet a broken one), let me explain to you a little something about Porsche.

What Porsche does best is take something that ought not work, and make it work insanely well. The 356, especially the Pre-A cars, was heavily related to the Beetle. The beetle was not a car with sporting intentions. It made very little power, and the handling could be a bit spooky. Nonetheless, Porsche took the basic idea of it and made a sports car, and a very good one at that. 356s often get classed into higher displacement classes for vintage racing because they simply go and change direction better than they ought to. The 911 took the 356 idea and turned it to 11, then 12(911 RS), then 15(930), then 27(997 GT2 RS).

Fast forward to the early 2000s, and Porsche is looking to expand their product line. They add an SUV, but they wanted one that could do everything. The Cayenne can be used offroad, and it(for a stock unibody SUV, and not so much the GTS) is very capable. As it happens though, it also goes like the clappers. It is a format that shouldn't work, but with the GTS Porsche took something that shouldn't do what a sport sedan can do, and made it do that anyways. It's Porsche being Porsche just as they always have been. Just because it is an SUV and you don't like SUVs, that doesn't make it not a Porsche.

I hate to tell you, but there are people out there who hate track-day-loving, back-roads-hooning, sports car lovers as much as you hate tall "yuppie mobiles." Porsche has always made Porsches, and will for the foreseeable future. The Cayenne is a real Porsche, and I'm happy that it exists. May it rip about with alacrity on all surfaces until people stop buying them.

[Mike!]

Clicked to see a bunch of 420 jokes, only saw one, leaving ****ing disappointed

Well, the car in the photos is green... (tongue in cheek?)

[FlashRedGLS1.8T]

You're really walking off the ledge to defend the bastardization of Porsche here.

It doesn't need defended, though some are, as the product speaks for itself.

Tell me now, do you have similar feelings about Cadillac creating a station wagon?

[kingrukus]

well its still ugly, juts like every other cayenne made.

[Inspector Detector]

It doesn't need defended, though some are, as the product speaks for itself.

Tell me now, do you have similar feelings about Cadillac creating a station wagon?

I'll give other automakers credit for sticking with what made them what they are or not going so far off the beaten path. Geez Brian could have said the same thing about grocery getting POS Porsche as he did the Hummers here:

[Mike!]

Okay, nothing to see here. Case closed. He brought out a Family Guy clip to support his argument. He just won the internet.

[FlashRedGLS1.8T]

Okay, nothing to see here. Case closed. He brought out a Family Guy clip to support his argument. He just won the internet.

Haha.

[Twosont]

How would this thing stack up against a Jeep SRT8 AROUND A TRACK... Jeep is more powerful and lighter right?

[Inspector Detector]

Okay, nothing to see here. .

Except somebody else who feels the same way about the stupidity of vehicles such as your Cayenne grocery getter.

[boner]

still looks like a bag of smashed @$$holes.

[omoderncultureo]