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    04-10-2012 08:15 PM #1
    Just curious is Ebay a good place to get a 20V head? I think i might want to swapp my head ecu and angine harnest. I talked to the master teck/owner at Bluewater performance in Denver and he said that to buy the 2.0L 8V stage 2 kit from him and get it installed will b 4100 bills. I asked him about the 20/20 swapp and he said that I will b putting 4300 bills into it. I said **** it ill just go with the 20/20 swapp because I can use 1.8T kits and performance software and gain a venumous amount of hp

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    04-11-2012 01:08 AM #2
    Wait, I thought you already bought a turbo kit?

    From your other thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by VwBoy2.0L View Post
    I just recently payed my car off and i just recently purchased a Kenetic Motorsports stage 2 turbokit. My car still has an auto tranny. Is there any kind of modifications I have to do to my motor before I get the kit installed? How much psi can my tranny handel?
    Just get rid of the autotragic, you are going no where with it, 20v turbo 2.0 whatever it is you might eventually (lawl) do it's still a ****ing slushbox.

    4 years and you still got nothing but BS posts... figured you would have learned by now son.


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    04-11-2012 04:58 AM #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Bee View Post
    Wait, I thought you already bought a turbo kit?

    From your other thread:



    Just get rid of the autotragic, you are going no where with it, 20v turbo 2.0 whatever it is you might eventually (lawl) do it's still a ****ing slushbox.

    4 years and you still got nothing but BS posts... figured you would have learned by now son.


    J WTF son. See i havent been on this **** in 3 ****in years, and i thought your *** has ****in changed and forgot about me. whats the ****in deal yo u missed me? Well i got good news 4 ya famz I'M BACK SON!!! and Better than ever its the SECOND COMING OF VwBoy2.0L!!!!!! YEEAAHH BUDDY !! 4 yo haten ***. You think i am a ****in multi ****in milionarie where i can just wipe my ****in ***with ****in Franklins u madd wrong kid!!!! Im not gettin rid of my car! so u can go head with that BS!!! Why dont you swapp yo ****y *** 2.0L into a 20V then since u claimin my shyt is a ****in sludge box and cant do anything to it. I am gonna do some **** to it!!!! I want to make sure that i will get the hp i want without no **** ups you know what im saying. Some folks has bills to pay, Car parts are very exorbitant and u have to have the time and money for the damn project. I want a 4 door mk4 golf with a 1.8T and 5 speed tranny but they are rare to find out here in the damn springs. but since i can not ****in find one ima customize my whips engine into the 2.0T 20V. while u still tuning your eight valve with 2.0L software I getting 1.8T software and averaging 5x more HP than ya.

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    04-11-2012 08:15 AM #4
    You sound like possibly the biggest idiot to ever grace vortex with their presence, and thats saying something because there are alot. Your automatic transmission will blow to pieces as soon as you get to 250hp so I hope you have a replacement...

    And also, before you go hating on 8valves look at the q_jet's build. Once you surpass 374 whp then you can come talk to us like you know everything. And at the way you post stuff, im assuming this build, if ever done, will take 5 years to do because you cant even change your own oil but plan to build a 20v 2.0

    Thats the end of my rant, feel free to have a "sweet comeback bro"

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    04-11-2012 08:30 AM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by VwBoy2.0L View Post
    J WTF son. See i havent been on this **** in 3 ****in years, and i thought your *** has ****in changed and forgot about me. whats the ****in deal yo u missed me? Well i got good news 4 ya famz I'M BACK SON!!! and Better than ever its the SECOND COMING OF VwBoy2.0L!!!!!! YEEAAHH BUDDY !! 4 yo haten ***. You think i am a ****in multi ****in milionarie where i can just wipe my ****in ***with ****in Franklins u madd wrong kid!!!! Im not gettin rid of my car! so u can go head with that BS!!! Why dont you swapp yo ****y *** 2.0L into a 20V then since u claimin my shyt is a ****in sludge box and cant do anything to it. I am gonna do some **** to it!!!! I want to make sure that i will get the hp i want without no **** ups you know what im saying. Some folks has bills to pay, Car parts are very exorbitant and u have to have the time and money for the damn project. I want a 4 door mk4 golf with a 1.8T and 5 speed tranny but they are rare to find out here in the damn springs. but since i can not ****in find one ima customize my whips engine into the 2.0T 20V. while u still tuning your eight valve with 2.0L software I getting 1.8T software and averaging 5x more HP than ya.
    Good lord, I've never seen such a badass.

  6. 04-11-2012 09:45 AM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by VwBoy2.0L View Post
    i havent been on this **** in 3 ****in years
    That's not true, and you know it. Why, I remember calling you an idiot just last fall in one of your threads.

    Please learn how to use the Search feature on this site to get your information. (Believe me, everything has been done and documented on here.) I hate saying this every time you post; I hope one day it will sink in. Oh, and "4300 bills" ($4,300???) for a 20/20 project is retarted-expensive. You could just swap in an entire 1.8t engine, harness, management and already be at 170hp. Add just a stage-1 tune from any supplier, and be at 200hp/230tq.

    So pick ONE route and just go with it. Do your OWN research and come to you OWN conclusion, and FOLLOW THROUGH.

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    04-11-2012 10:13 AM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by B4S View Post
    Good lord, I've never seen such a badass.
    its a first time for everything son

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    04-11-2012 10:43 AM #8
    [QUOTE=911_fan;76848585]That's not true, and you know it. Why, I remember calling you an idiot just last fall in one of your threads.
    ok but that was the fall.
    Please learn how to use the Search feature on this site to get your information. (Believe me, everything has been done and documented on here.) I hate saying this every time you post; I hope one day it will sink in. Oh, and "4300 bills" ($4,300???) for a 20/20 project is retarted-expensive. You could just swap in an entire 1.8t engine, harness, management and already be at 170hp. Add just a stage-1 tune from any supplier, and be at 200hp/230tq.

    So pick ONE route and just go with it. Do your OWN research and come to you OWN conclusion, and FOLLOW THROUGH. :
    even when you do the complete 1.8T swap, harness, management, and the stage 1 tune it'll be around the same price son. Do you get the hook ups on work done to your ca cuz thats the only way ill get it for the low low? I know how to use the seach feature but it still isnt givin me what i need. Who wants a ****in Neuspeed super charger i sho the hell dont. I think you need alot more than just the ecu and harness, you need the wiring from the 1.8T because the wires are different from the 2.0Ls.

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    ...Son?

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    04-11-2012 11:14 AM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by 02vwgolf View Post
    You sound like possibly the biggest idiot to ever grace vortex with their presence, and thats saying something because there are alot. Your automatic transmission will blow to pieces as soon as you get to 250hp so I hope you have a replacement...
    but that was the fall so it was last year!!!!
    And also, before you go hating on 8valves look at the q_jet's build. Once you surpass 374 whp then you can come talk to us like you know everything. And at the way you post stuff, im assuming this build, if ever done, will take 5 years to do because you cant even change your own oil but plan to build a 20v 2.0

    Thats the end of my rant, feel free to have a "sweet comeback bro"
    the only way i can blow my tranny is if i stap a bomp on it litterally and push the button and caaBOOM. thats the only way i see blowing up a tranny
    Who ever owned the q_jet's build prolly put a quarter racks of bricks into that 8V motor and only came up with 374 whp. a 2.0L with a 20V will have 2x more whp than that kid ask your self this would you rather make 8 Bills an hr with a small pay check or 20 Bills an hr with a fat *** paycheck
    "Think about it bro"

  11. 04-11-2012 11:24 AM #11
    No to burst your bubble, or take the wind out of your sails, or piss in your Cherios....but to build a 20v/20t with over 300whp is not only going to take a lot of money just for a successful 20/20 build, but also the BT to put you over 300.

    I....don't even know where else to go with this. I don't think you fully understand the copious amounts of money, parts, and labor that is going to be involved with making a 300+ 20/20t. So I guess Ill just stick by my original advice and piece together a 1.8t swap. OR, buy somebody's completed project.

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    04-11-2012 12:05 PM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by VwBoy2.0L View Post
    its a first time for everything son
    If I were your son, I'd drive a Honda.

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    04-11-2012 12:36 PM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by B4S View Post
    If I were your son, I'd drive a Honda.
    LMFAO...

    does this guy not understand that a VW auto wont hold much past stock TDI torque levels?

  14. 04-11-2012 12:39 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
    LMFAO...

    does this guy not understand that a VW auto wont hold much past stock 2.0 torque levels?
    FTFY

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    04-11-2012 12:49 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by 911_fan View Post
    FTFY
    lmao.. thanks dude!!

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    04-11-2012 12:51 PM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by VwBoy2.0L View Post
    the only way i can blow my tranny is if i stap a bomp on it litterally and push the button and caaBOOM. thats the only way i see blowing up a tranny
    Who ever owned the q_jet's build prolly put a quarter racks of bricks into that 8V motor and only came up with 374 whp. a 2.0L with a 20V will have 2x more whp than that kid ask your self this would you rather make 8 Bills an hr with a small pay check or 20 Bills an hr with a fat *** paycheck
    "Think about it bro"
    This has to be the absolute worst analogy I have ever heard, and I've come to the conclusion that you own no tools other then maybe a flat head screw driver...therefore you cannot and will not be able to do any work on your own. Unless you just going to drop thousands of dollars for something that can be done much cheaper, you need to stop making threads and just do research and learn how to work on your car. And btw I have $100 to contribute towards your build if you can beat the q_jets whp numbers with a dyno graph to prove it hahahahhaha

    Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
    LMFAO...

    does this guy not understand that a VW auto wont hold much past stock TDI torque levels?
    He has absolutely no concept of this, this is a hopeless argument

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    04-11-2012 09:24 PM #17
    I should have checked this thread while at work today, I sure could have used a laugh to break up my day.

    Quote Originally Posted by VwBoy2.0L View Post
    while u still tuning your eight valve with 2.0L software I getting 1.8T software and averaging 5x more HP than ya.
    I'm not even gonna respond to the whole post, cause honestly it looks like it was typed by a 10 year old...See my sig, I gave up on my 2.0 long ago (god love the thing)

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    04-11-2012 10:02 PM #18
    BAHAHAHAHAHA wow, just wow.
    This is the funniest thing I have read all week. Q's build besides the point, there is an 8vT in Vegas that puts down 550whp, which, based on power figures, RAPES a BT 20v on the same amount of boost. And he's gearing up for 600+ this time around.

    Also there are sub 800whp 8v's in the anals of countries more south.

    Just figured I'd pop in and say that, most posters in here already know this though.
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    04-11-2012 10:57 PM #19
    Here's a Golf w/ a trunk in the "springs"area...1.8T Golf w/ trunk
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    04-12-2012 11:35 AM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by ps2375 View Post
    Here's a Golf w/ a trunk in the "springs"area...1.8T Golf w/ trunk
    Thats not a Golf son its a Jetta. if i trade my whip in it has to be the same exact one. Mine is Dark Blue with pull off hubbies. If i can find another Dark blue Golf with the 1.8T, and the pull off hubbies you know what i'm sayin

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    04-12-2012 11:45 AM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by AJmustDIE View Post
    BAHAHAHAHAHA wow, just wow.
    This is the funniest thing I have read all week. Q's build besides the point, there is an 8vT in Vegas that puts down 550whp, which, based on power figures, RAPES a BT 20v on the same amount of boost. And he's gearing up for 600+ this time around.

    Also there are sub 800whp 8v's in the anals of countries more south.
    Thats in the other countries
    Just figured I'd pop in and say that, most posters in here already know this though.
    Q's in Vegas! He is a resident in Vegas! in Vegas they are madd ballars out there! They will splurge they bread on anything. Q probly dropped a quarter million stacks into that 8V to get that amount of hp. does Q has a MK4 2.0L 8V? or a MK3 2.0L 8V? or a MK2 2.0L 8V? or a MK1 2.0L 8V?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VwBoy2.0L View Post
    Q's in Vegas! He is a resident in Vegas! in Vegas they are madd ballars out there! They will splurge they bread on anything. Q probly dropped a quarter million stacks into that 8V to get that amount of hp. does Q has a MK4 2.0L 8V? or a MK3 2.0L 8V? or a MK2 2.0L 8V? or a MK1 2.0L 8V?
    i hope your kidding?

    mk1 2.0? mind telling me what that came in?

    and the mk2 2.0 is a 16v engine, so count that one out also..

    this guy is a 100% total idiot.. he has no concept of anything mechanical.

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    From the rear seat back forward and except for the shape of the head lights, they are IDENTICAL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps2375 View Post
    Here's a Golf w/ a trunk in the "springs"area...1.8T Golf w/ trunk
    yup..

    or you could call a golf a Jetta with a hatch..

    works both ways..

    what did VW make first, the golf or Jetta? assuming the golf/rabbit came first..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
    LMFAO...

    does this guy not understand that a VW auto wont hold much past stock TDI torque levels?
    i know it won't. Thats why before i even thought about doing the 20/20 swap I wanted to get the kinetic stage 2 kit run 10 psi then later on down the line i can swap into a 5 or 6 speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJmustDIE View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
    i hope your kidding?

    mk1 2.0? mind telling me what that came in?

    and the mk2 2.0 is a 16v engine, so count that one out also..

    this guy is a 100% total idiot.. he has no concept of anything mechanical.
    the mk2 its still a 2.0L! the MK1 he could have swapped his old motor into an 2.0L 8V.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps2375 View Post
    From the rear seat back forward and except for the shape of the head lights, they are IDENTICAL.
    The names are different, the body shapes are different golfs can come with 2dr, or 4dr. The ietta on the other hand only comes in 4dr. The motors, and features they come with are identical but the name and the chasis are totally different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VwBoy2.0L View Post
    The motors, and features they come with are identical but the name and the chasis are totally different.
    Sorry to disappoint you, but the chassis are identical. You apparently have not worked on any, ever. Cause if you had, you would know this.
    Maybe if you ever bothered to lift the hood on either one or look at one when it is on a lift, you might notice that they are indeed identical.
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