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    Thread: Is The R8 "Too Good To Change"

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      04-11-2012 08:43 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by chris stack View Post


      *i'm well aware that audi invented the concept, but they looked stupid then and really stupid now that everyone is copying it.
      thank you, i'm not the only one that thinks this!!!!!

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      04-11-2012 08:47 AM #27
      I've never liked the looks of the R8. The massive plastic grills on each corner ruin it for me. A car of that caliber shouldn't rely on that much fake mesh for styling.

      Yuck.

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      04-11-2012 08:58 AM #28
      Change it more...and shorten the damn thing for chrissakes.

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      04-11-2012 09:11 AM #29
      I've driven one, and yes, the thing handles like a dream ... it's perfect for what it is, the everyman's supercar.

      That being said, I think the redesign will be evolutionary rather than revolutionary ... as someone above said, Audi has WAY too much R&D and capital wrapped up into the R8 to completely overhaul it new again.

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      04-11-2012 09:45 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stack View Post
      It's already been compared to the Acura NSX; letting it languish for years with little to no updating would complete the comparison.
      Nowhere near NSX status yet, that was '89-'05.

      The S2000 was largely unchanged for almost ten years. Corvettes last forever (C4 - 12y, C5 - 9y, etc). Sports cars tend to have long lifespans. The R8 is not old yet.

      Do people seriously expect a new model every four years for a $115k supercar like it's a Golf? Not going to happen, costs are too high and volume is too low.
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      04-11-2012 09:59 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by masa8888 View Post
      Meh, that's about what a nicely equipped 991 S goes for on Ebay. I think the R8 is a relative bargain in the crowd-attracting super car territory (Viper is the king here), and wouldn't mind if it took an evolutionary approach to redesigns. The key for me is that they continue to keep pushing the envelope on engine development, like Porsche.
      Ebay = Used?

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      What can you get a 2008 R8 for now?

      Gradually making the new ones better and better is nice, but you also must make them compelling enough for people to pay brand new prices over used ones.
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      04-11-2012 10:06 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      I agree! Yet every time one rolls up everyone is up in arms about how cool and nice looking it is. I'm always standing around like
      I agree. I didn't really think the car was all that special when I first saw it, but the general public seems to LOVE them. It's grown on me though
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      04-11-2012 10:07 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Ebay = Used?

      Comparing new to used is an instaban.

      What can you get a 2008 R8 for now?

      Gradually making the new ones better and better is nice, but you also must make them compelling enough for people to pay brand new prices over used ones.
      Apples to apples

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      Used 2012 R8 4.2 R-Tronic with 800 miles, with "Buy it Now" option for $122,900.


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      04-11-2012 11:09 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Internal Combustion View Post
      I will say I'm never much for the R8 online but EVERY time I see one on the road I get a chubby.
      Ditto. Drove past one yesterday and it looked fantastic
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      04-11-2012 11:15 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Internal Combustion View Post
      I will say I'm never much for the R8 online but EVERY time I see one on the road I get a chubby.
      This. I'm sure nobody would admit it - but I bet a bunch of people who dislike it rarely see them in person. This is one of those cars that sort of looks decent online but in person looks great

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      04-11-2012 11:23 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by patrickvr6 View Post
      I've never liked the looks of the R8. The massive plastic grills on each corner ruin it for me. A car of that caliber shouldn't rely on that much fake mesh for styling.

      Yuck.

      R8 Spyder front side 'grill' by littlewiiguy, on Flickr
      What's "fake"? I mean, there's mesh there...I'm looking at it. What would be satisfactory? Metal? Or a redesigned bumper w/integrated slats or something different?

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      04-11-2012 11:31 AM #37
      I see some type of cooler behind the grill so it does hold a function.
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    13. 04-11-2012 11:32 AM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by 08-Jetta View Post
      This. I'm sure nobody would admit it - but I bet a bunch of people who dislike it rarely see them in person. This is one of those cars that sort of looks decent online but in person looks great
      I've seen plenty - and I agree w/others - it looked very unique & stylish at first, but is aging (how many more LED strips can automakers conjure up?) - quickly.

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      04-11-2012 12:25 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by Jman5000 View Post
      What's "fake"? I mean, there's mesh there...I'm looking at it. What would be satisfactory? Metal? Or a redesigned bumper w/integrated slats or something different?
      The entire top row under the headlight isn't opened for airflow. Fake mesh, pseudo mesh, faux mesh, whatever you call it.

      Quote Originally Posted by neu318 View Post
      I see some type of cooler behind the grill so it does hold a function.
      I never said they weren't functional, just that they are unattractive and built from cheap materials.

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      04-11-2012 12:32 PM #40
      My take on the R8:

      1. It does look much better in person than in most photos.
      2. It should always represent Audi's pinnacle of achievement.

      Meaning: I expect the R8 to constantly change - to evolve - as a showcase for Audi tech (sounds like a Halo car?!)

      As new technologies, design language, functions all develop and mature - so should this car. It should be to Audi what Lexus thought the LF-A was/could be -- except that it's also attainable.

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      04-11-2012 12:33 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by patrickvr6 View Post
      I never said they weren't functional, just that they are unattractive and built from cheap materials.
      Euro drunk pedestrian crash standards means the bumper covers of all vehicles must be pliable (plastic)... or not?

      But you like your plastic to look more high end?
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      04-11-2012 12:33 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by patrickvr6 View Post
      I never said they weren't functional, just that they are unattractive and built from cheap materials.
      Biggest complaint I have about the Bentley Continentals. All the chrome on the grill is just shiny plastic. For $250k, I'd at least expect real chicken wire.

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      04-11-2012 12:34 PM #43
      The R8 Cabrio looks much better than the coupe. The coupe looks too much like an alien with a huge head, which is why they added the sideblades to "fix" the wacky proportions.

      I don't have much problem with the design although I'm sure it'll be updated to get the uglier updated LED front end of the newest Audis.

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      04-11-2012 12:35 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Euro drunk pedestrian crash standards means the bumper covers of all vehicles must be pliable (plastic)... or not?

      But you like your plastic to look more high end?
      I think he's speaking in particular about the decorative mesh between the lower end of the headlight and the upper edge of the inlet/intercooler.

      I have to agree to some extent - it looks cheap and you can tell it was done to save cost. One big piece of plastic is a lot cheaper than a couple smaller ones and more metal + paint.

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      04-11-2012 12:35 PM #45
      Sure, if you're a retarded fanboy.
      Now go get your shinebox

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      04-11-2012 12:39 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by PsyberVW View Post
      I think he's speaking in particular about the decorative mesh between the lower end of the headlight and the upper edge of the inlet/intercooler.

      I have to agree to some extent - it looks cheap and you can tell it was done to save cost. One big piece of plastic is a lot cheaper than a couple smaller ones and more metal + paint.
      Every car is a compromise of production cost- even at $115,000.
      If they did something shiny, it would detract from the dark areas under the headlight style.
      And I am not sure how they can make flat black look high end.

      (not a major R8 fanboy, just thinking this seems like a real nitpick.)
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      04-11-2012 12:39 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by Señor Peligro View Post
      Sure, if you're a retarded fanboy.
      I appreciate your wise and nuanced insight.
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    23. 04-11-2012 12:39 PM #48
      The R8 sounds amazing. The looks fall short of rest of the package.

      Let me put it this way.

      If a V10 R8 and a Gallardo Superleggeria were parked next to each other, which one would you be looking at?

      And the Gallardo is a very simple looking supercar also. Compared to something more exotic like a Zonda, the R8 would be an absolute wallflower. Image is key to supercarness.

      R8=Dentist's Gallardo

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      04-11-2012 12:40 PM #49
      Get rid of the colored side body panels.

      That would be my change.
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      04-11-2012 12:42 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by mhjett View Post
      I appreciate your wise and nuanced insight.
      Would you prefer some fluffed up bull**** passed off as fact on a subjective question?
      Now go get your shinebox

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