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    Thread: Another Supermoto Thread

    1. 04-11-2012 10:40 AM #1
      Currently I have a Honda CRF230m. Its my first bike and I have now been riding for about 1 year. Its been a great bike and I've had a blast riding it, but I think Im about ready for a bit more power. I am definitely sold on the supermoto style. I have been looking a bit at the Suzuki DRZ400 for my next bike. Is this a logical next step up? What else is out there in a supermoto? I guess im looking to stay towards the smaller engine side of the spectrum because Im still a newer rider. Any suggestions?

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      04-11-2012 10:51 AM #2
      There is nothing inherently wrong with the DRZ, they are solid.


      However, I think the Yamaha WR250X is a better SM than the DRZ. Yes, its only a 250, but it makes nearly as much power, its lighter, it has 6 gears, and its fuel injected.

      Unless you are planning on cranking up the power output of the DRZ (which, they can be, quite a bit) I'd go for the Yamaha.


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      04-11-2012 11:07 AM #3
      i'd be looking at ktm and husqvarna for a "real" bike. the wr250x looks fun as hell but is probably utterly useless if highway is in your life
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      04-11-2012 11:52 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by mad8vskillz View Post
      i'd be looking at ktm and husqvarna for a "real" bike. the wr250x looks fun as hell but is probably utterly useless if highway is in your life
      Also...that.

      I had assumed you were looking at things in the $3k or less range, however.

    5. 04-11-2012 12:44 PM #5
      I have a budget of around 6k. Maybe a little more if I can get a few bucks out of selling the Honda. There is this bike for sale near me locally: http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/mcy/2947447125.html

      Don't know anything about the brand or the bike, worried it may be too much bike for me?

      Also, I thought I saw somewhere that Honda made a 600cc supermoto/eduro bike???

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      04-11-2012 01:01 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by BMAN70 View Post
      I have a budget of around 6k. Maybe a little more if I can get a few bucks out of selling the Honda. There is this bike for sale near me locally: http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/mcy/2947447125.html

      Don't know anything about the brand or the bike, worried it may be too much bike for me?

      Also, I thought I saw somewhere that Honda made a 600cc supermoto/eduro bike???
      Do a search for 'dorsonotsoduro'.
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      04-11-2012 01:10 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by ab8349 View Post
      Do a search for 'dorsonotsoduro'.

      yeah, that was mine...
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      5k and ate its own engine. Dealer network SUCKS except AF1. No aftermarket. No parts availability. Stay the hell away.

      also, not at all a supermoto. Just a large sportbike with supermoto look and seating position.

      /that said, while it was running it was fantastic.
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    8. 04-11-2012 02:25 PM #8


      Thanks for looking out on that! Was thinking about running over to check it out this afternoon, Ill take a pass now. So is there anything inbetween like the bigger KTM 900s etc...and the smaller bikes. I guess I'd be interested in a 5 or 600cc, but on the other hand maybe I am putting too much importance on engine size..

      Thanks again for the input.

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      04-11-2012 02:34 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by BMAN70 View Post
      So is there anything inbetween like the bigger KTM 900s etc...and the smaller bikes.
      Someone rang?

      690 SMC, but good luck finding one





      ... or any of the old LC4 bikes (625 SMC). Again, STAY AWAY FROM APRILIA SMs!

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      04-11-2012 02:35 PM #10
      ktm 690
      husqvarna 511
      dr650
      dl650

      etc.
      lots and lots of dual purpose bikes that can be sm'ed
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      04-11-2012 06:48 PM #11
      I'm kinda partial to the Husky SMS630


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      04-11-2012 11:12 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by mad8vskillz View Post
      the wr250x looks fun as hell but is probably utterly useless if highway is in your life
      Quote Originally Posted by BMAN70 View Post
      I have a budget of around 6k.
      Damn, I don't think you can fit the bike + turbo under the $6k bar.

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      04-11-2012 11:18 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by mad8vskillz View Post
      lots and lots of dual purpose bikes that can be sm'ed
      having looked into this (because I would LOVE to SM my XR), don't go this route. Get a bike that already has 17" wheels. Wheels cost a fortune, particularly in relation to the cost of most used DS bikes.

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      04-12-2012 02:23 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Darkness View Post
      I'm kinda partial to the Husky SMS630

      heavy, slow, and no aftermarket.

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      04-12-2012 02:24 AM #15
      DRZ400sm is really the 'best' option. just too bad it doesnt have a 6 speed.

      but it does have massive aftermarket support. bullet proof engine. and strong suspension for the price point.

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      04-12-2012 01:27 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by TurboWraith View Post
      However, I think the Yamaha WR250X is a better SM than the DRZ. Yes, its only a 250, but it makes nearly as much power, its lighter, it has 6 gears, and its fuel injected.
      just wanted to add this.




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      04-12-2012 05:41 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by TurboWraith View Post
      the Yamaha WR250X is fuel injected.
      IMO, this shouldn't be a deciding factor. The single carb works fine and is far less problematic than people seem to want to believe. And between the WR and the DRZ, based on the graph posted above, it's kind of a no-brainier to me.

    18. 04-20-2012 09:11 PM #18
      http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/mcy/2952952783.html. What can you guys tell me about this bike? How is it riding on the street with knobby tires?

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      04-21-2012 06:32 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by BMAN70 View Post
      http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/mcy/2952952783.html. What can you guys tell me about this bike? How is it riding on the street with knobby tires?
      They are quick, but parts can be a nag. 610s aren't quite as snappy as the 510/450, due to the extra weight.

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      04-22-2012 04:40 PM #20
      In this discussion... What would would be a small bore low seat height SM for a fellow 5'4?

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      04-22-2012 05:30 PM #21
      http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/Pro...scid=14&id=417
      how would something like this SM from Kawasaki be compared to the yamaha wr250x?
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      04-25-2012 10:59 AM #22
      Color me stupid, but what makes a supermotard a supermotard?
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      04-25-2012 12:23 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by atomicalex View Post
      Color me stupid, but what makes a supermotard a supermotard?
      I don't think stupid has a color, so don't worry about it.

      Two basic approaches:

      - take a dirt bike, lower it a small amount, use street-biased suspension tuning (firm), grippy street tires in sportbike sizes.
      - take a sportbike, raise it up with longer suspension travel, make the riding position upright, give it dirtbike styling cues.

      End result: crazy amounts of fun

      They're not perfect, but they're great all-around bikes for commuting and for tearing up a back road. They typically have small fuel tanks (that's part of the dirtbike heritage), firm seats that have plenty of room to move around on but are not superslab-friendly, limited luggage options that end up looking a little ungainly, and wind protection is at best a total afterthought.

      The most fun I've ever had on two wheels has been on my Dorsoduro. Seriously...when I'm on it, I get this stupid grin on my face (thank goodness for full-face helmets), and catch myself laughing out loud at how fun it is. Yeah, I've read the reliability concerns, but I've also read of owners riding them trouble-free for a long time. If mine shats the bed, I'll get something else.

      The November 2011 issue of Cycle World did a comparison of the Dorsoduro 1200 and the Hypermotard 1100. They used the phrase "a frat party on two wheels." They speak the truth.
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