Torque wins races bro.
I could get a LOT more than this outta the car, but I'm keeping it relatively stockish and reliable. My mkiv will have a good bit more power, but judging by the 500lb disparity between the 2, I could have 50hp less in my mkiii jetta and in theory be just as quick as the mkiv.
Last edited by 85_305; 04-11-2012 at 05:08 PM.
Joking aside, said car will only rev to ~4.5 RPM, have about 130 wheel HP and power the wrong wheels. I don't see much fun in this relatively speaking. Sure it may be fun compared to a Prius
or Corolla but that isn't saying much.
Since when does a mk3 weigh 2500 pounds?
As far as how high the car rev's, that depends on how much I want to mod this car. My mkiv tdi I can spin the tach all the way out, which is about 5500rpms. I doubt I do the work required to make my mkiii spin 5500rpms, though. But I wont be drag racing the mkiii jetta; I am from, and my whole family lives, in the country. This means lots of hills and turns, which is what I really want to have fun with in my mkiii. Having tons of torque, with a very broad power-band, makes for a great road-course or hill-climber. The car already handles like a gocart stock; far better FEELING than my mkiv stock.
Last edited by 85_305; 04-11-2012 at 05:40 PM.
Look up trap speeds, 1/4 mile times, whatever you want between a Golf TDI and any other gasoline powered car (similar weight) that has the same HP but much less torque. They will accelerate at about the same rate.
There is an almost direct correlation between HP to weight ratio and acceleration. That is the bottom line.
If you are thinking of HP as an imaginary number, then this discussion can end here. No offense but that is just completely wrong on so many levels.
All that said, in the real world, a torquey engine is still nice.
DO NOT FORGET THE TEKLORD CONSTANT
Car < 151 ft.-lbs = dangerous going up hills
Car > 151 ft.-lbs = safe, regardless of weight of car
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With this tool, you can discern that, at the very least, your car will be able to make it up hills safely.
2005 Lotus Elise - 6-speed
2011 BMW 128 'vert - 6-speed
2013 Subaru Crosstrek XV - 5-speed
Also, OP, this argument will not end well. Yes, torks are needed, but hp are the rate at which that torque is applied and during a race, time is all that matters. They must go hand in hand, and diesels don't rev very high so you need some higher gearing to make up for that anyways.
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