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    View Poll Results: Wagons on the Cheap (Sub $10K)

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    • Audi A4

      33 26.40%
    • Saab 9-5

      14 11.20%
    • Subaru Outback

      42 33.60%
    • Vokswagon Passat

      24 19.20%
    • Volvo XC70

      12 9.60%
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      04-12-2012 12:41 PM #1
      What say you mighty TLC? Which wagon would you choose on the cheap? The goal is a cheap wagon with 25+ mpg's.

      All of these choices are 03 or newer. Any ownership comments are welcome.

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      Volkswagon Passat

      Volvo XC70
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      04-12-2012 12:44 PM #2
      Wouldn't an Outback be considerably cheaper than the rest of the cars you posted up?
      Seems sort of out of place among the rest of the choices.

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      04-12-2012 12:58 PM #3
      All the above are decent except VAG cars, simply don't trust older used VAG. One incident away from major fix bill.

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      04-12-2012 01:03 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by R-Dubya View Post
      Wouldn't an Outback be considerably cheaper than the rest of the cars you posted up?
      Seems sort of out of place among the rest of the choices.
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      04-12-2012 01:04 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Vision33r View Post
      All the above are decent except VAG cars, simply don't trust older used VAG. One incident away from major fix bill.


      Our Passat has been great. In 5 years of ownership I've replaced 3 CV boots and done a timing belt job. It hauls an 8' countertop, handles reasonably well with summer tires, and gets along just fine with the 170hp 1.8t.

      It does seem to hover just below 25mpg during city driving. On the highway, low 30s are typical.
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      04-12-2012 01:16 PM #8
      Based on your list I'd choose the subie. Outside of your list I'd look at the BMW 325iT

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      04-12-2012 01:23 PM #9
      I would go Passat if you get a stick. The auto's they had at that point are expensive, and not known for longevity.

      Outback? Reliable yes, but almost as bad a mpg as a suv.

      SAAB interesting, and quite reliable from what I hear, but parts would scare me now.

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      04-12-2012 01:25 PM #10
      What's the price point?
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      04-12-2012 01:29 PM #11
      Inside your list, I'd go with the Passat or the Subaru.

      Outside your list, you can probably find a 525iT or 530iT, and if you don't mind getting your hands dirty every now and again, they'll run 200k easily, and are a blast to drive.
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      04-12-2012 01:32 PM #12
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      04-12-2012 01:33 PM #13
      I picked the V70. My parents have a newer one and I love it. I didn't pick the Outback cause that's the wrong version. Needs more Legacy B Spec.


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      04-12-2012 01:33 PM #14
      Any reason you're limiting yourself to the XC70, instead of the V70?

      Based on you options, and the fact you're probably looking at older and higher mileage, your best choice is Volvo or a Legacy/Outback wagon.

      I trust Volvo's with even 200k miles on them, and they're a remarkable value at their used selling prices. There's plenty of well taken care of 100k+ mile examples under $5-6k, and can also be found in manual fairly easily. The T5's can get around 30 on the highway, and also offer decent performance. Subaru stuff won't get decent mpg's because of the AWD.

      Only old high mileage Passat I would trust the TDI. Problem with the Legacy or Outback wagons, even though they're cheap to fix and hold up decently, is the Subaru used prices are a joke. People with their 200k wagons think they are still worth $10k, which is why I recommend Volvos.
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      04-12-2012 01:35 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Spatzle View Post
      I would go Passat if you get a stick. The auto's they had at that point are expensive, and not known for longevity.

      Outback? Reliable yes, but almost as bad a mpg as a suv.

      SAAB interesting, and quite reliable from what I hear, but parts would scare me now.
      I get 28 MPG on the highway with my 2000 Outback. Our 2002 H6 Outback gets 26. I'd hardly call that as bad as an SUV. The both do about 20-21 MPG in the city, which is pretty consistent with the rest of the cara in the poll.

      If it were my decision, it would come down to the Outback and 9-5.

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      04-12-2012 01:38 PM #16
      I'd say Mazda 6 but 25 mpg might be a stretch. I only ever got two tanks over 25 MPG.

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      04-12-2012 02:19 PM #17
      I vote V70

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      04-12-2012 02:25 PM #18
      Do you need or want AWD? If not it opens up the options some, if you require it that is going to make it harder to get 25mpg in town.

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      04-12-2012 02:26 PM #19
      03-04 Ford Focus ZTW with a 2.3L and a stick.

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      04-12-2012 02:31 PM #20
      The Mazda's. BMW's are worthy considerations, however there just aren't many in my area. I reason why the XC70 was chosen over the V70 is for the more powerful motor and all wheel drive. The 2.4 is a bit of a slug. I consider the V70R or Subaru B Spec, but you're not touching those under $10K. The 3 series is too small as a tendacy to do some people carrying. So that takes out Jetta and Focus wagon.
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      04-12-2012 02:33 PM #21
      I vote E39, which isn't on this list.

      Otherwise 9-5 wagon fasho, 2.3t Aero with a manual.
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      04-12-2012 02:34 PM #22
      Subie and that is coming from a VAG guy.
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      04-12-2012 02:39 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      Subie and that is coming from a VAG guy.
      Passat, and that's coming from an ex-VW, new Subie guy!

      Provided
      a) it's a 5 MT FWD
      b) you can work on the car yourself.

      That Passat will go 250K, trounce the Outback in MPG, and you'll have access to cheap, new parts that are easy to find.
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      04-12-2012 02:48 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by That1njguy View Post
      The Mazda's. BMW's are worthy considerations, however there just aren't many in my area. I reason why the XC70 was chosen over the V70 is for the more powerful motor and all wheel drive. The 2.4 is a bit of a slug. I consider the V70R or Subaru B Spec, but you're not touching those under $10K. The 3 series is too small as a tendacy to do some people carrying. So that takes out Jetta and Focus wagon.
      Can you get the 2.4t in a Volvo wagon? My mom dailys a 2001 fwd s60 2.4t and with the t5r turbo SHE installed and a tune, the thing flies.
      It also has 260k on it and it never has given us a problem. I'm sure that if you could get the stock 2.4t in a wagon it would be more than quick enough for what you want. You might can probably get 25 mpg out of a stock one. Volvos are pretty cheap and go forever so I definitely choose the Volvo.

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      04-12-2012 02:58 PM #25
      Most of the euro models would be rattling/squeaking by now.

      I'd go for the Outback H6 VDC. The economy would be comparable to most of the choices you've listed. The 1.8T in a Passat/A4 wagon is dog slow, and anyone that claims they are reliable are beyond delusional/fanboys.

      The McIntosh system in this thing will make your ears bleed, offering very very good SQ.
      I'm not sure if the Volvo offers the Dynaudio or a Premium Dolby system on this generation.

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