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    04-15-2012 08:42 AM #1
    I'm troubleshooting a timing issue and went to logs blocks 208 & 209 for intake and exhaust cam on my MKV TSI and noticed these blocks have been moved. The question is where have they been moved to? I have found a handful of blocks that indicated "Idle Stabilization" just like 208/209 but don't know which blocks are actually 208/209. I'm thinking they have been moved to 211-1 and 211-2 but not sure.

    I have no codes so an auto-scan doesn't apply. Don't use the -8.0* as indication of the correct blocks because I am troubleshooting and actually expecting to see a value other than -8.0*.

    See screenshots below. I apologize for the redundant screenshots.




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    04-15-2012 09:13 AM #2
    Quote Originally Posted by steelcurtain View Post
    I have no codes so an auto-scan doesn't apply.
    Yes, it does. Please post yours so we can see the other identifying information needed to look into your question.

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    04-15-2012 09:50 AM #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy@Ross-Tech.com View Post
    Yes, it does. Please post yours so we can see the other identifying information needed to look into your question.
    Thanks for your help Andy. Here's my auto-scan.

    VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
    Data version: 20120401

    Sunday,15,April,2012,09:49:57:22642

    Chassis Type: 1K0
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 65

    VIN: WVWFV71K19W066894 Mileage: 100040km/62161miles

    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CCT) Labels: 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 AE HW: 1K0 907 115 AA
    Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0030
    Revision: AAH03--- Serial number: VWX7Z0H63NH8H7
    Coding: 0403010A1C070160
    Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
    VCID: 69D2A69E4062C31

    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0010 0001

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
    Part No SW: 02E 300 051 H HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
    Component: HPA DSG AG6 431 1802
    Revision: 04843012 Serial number: 00000807011549
    Coding: 0000024
    Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
    VCID: 1834D35A2B888A9

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AE HW: 1K0 907 379 AE
    Component: ESP MK60EC1 H35 0104
    Revision: 00H35001
    Coding: 113B600D49280000881306ED921D0041B100
    Shop #: WSC 01316 785 00200
    VCID: 75EAFAEEDCDA171

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 JM HW: 1K0 820 047 JM
    Component: Climatic PQ35 142 1212
    Revision: 00142032 Serial number: 00000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 78F4F3DA0BC86A9

    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
    Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E HW: 3C8 937 049 E
    Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2602
    Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000008625032
    Coding: 078D8F014004150047140000001400000019770B5C00010000 0000000000
    Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
    VCID: 336E04F6522E491

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
    Component: Wischer 070708 021 0501
    Coding: 00038805
    Shop #: WSC 00000

    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 58
    Mileage: 99064 km
    Time Indication: 0

    Freeze Frame:
    ON
    Voltage: 11.75 V
    ON
    ON
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 M HW: 8E0 035 593 M
    Component: SDAR SIRIUS H07 0150
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0365224
    Coding: 0000000
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 336E04F6522E491

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
    Component: 6K AIRBAG VW8R 034 8000
    Revision: 05034000 Serial number: 003B6D0BLF3/
    Coding: 0013899
    Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
    VCID: 6CDCDF8A4F90D69

    Part No: 1K0 959 339 G
    Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0007

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BG HW: 1K0 953 549 BG
    Component: J0527 051 0101
    Coding: 0012122
    Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
    VCID: 78F4F3DA0BC86A9

    Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
    Component: E0221 002 0010

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 H HW: 1K6 920 974 H
    Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 2416
    Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H63NH8H7
    Coding: 0005103
    Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
    VCID: 397236DE7042B31

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q HW: 1K0 907 951
    Component: J533 Gateway H07 0062
    Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 100708F1001108
    Coding: ED811F070013020000
    Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
    VCID: 356A3AEE5C5A571

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 1C: Position Sensing Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K6 919 879 HW: 1K6 919 879
    Component: Kompass 001 0003
    Revision: 00001000 Serial number: 1225223T3HJW03
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: FDFA62CEA4EACF1

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
    Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 H HW: 1K6 920 974 H
    Component: IMMO VDD 2416
    Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H63NH8H7
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 397236DE7042B31

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
    Component: Tuer-SG 006 1207
    Coding: 0001077
    Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
    VCID: 387433DA4B48AA9

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
    Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H08 1901
    Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
    VCID: 356A3AEE5C5A571

    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 99050 km
    Temperature: 42.0°C
    Voltage: 11.90 V
    Voltage: 11.70 V


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
    Component: KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221
    Revision: 00052000 Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 029006885103C83F2D04058FB0080A04889C00
    Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
    VCID: 840C172AC700BE9

    Component: Sounder n.mounted

    Component: NGS n.mounted

    Component: IRUE n.mounted

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
    Component: Tuer-SG 006 1207
    Coding: 0001076
    Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
    VCID: 397236DE7042B31

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
    Part No: 1T0 907 357
    Component: Dynamische LWR 0003
    Coding: 0000003
    Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
    VCID: F4EC47EA97A08E9

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 L HW: 1K0 035 180 L
    Component: Radio PM6 019 0037
    Revision: 00019000 Serial number: VWZ5Z7H2244854
    Coding: 0040401
    Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
    VCID: 2952E69E80E2031

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
    Component: RDK 0450
    Revision: 00052000 Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 0100101
    Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
    VCID: 840C172AC700BE9

    No fault code found.

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    04-15-2012 09:57 AM #4
    BTW - The 01314 - Engine Control Module 004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent event is from getting the ECU reflashed.
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    04-18-2012 08:50 AM #6
    We have some logs from my coworker's Tiguan, which I should be able to check later today.

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    04-18-2012 09:16 AM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy@Ross-Tech.com View Post
    We have some logs from my coworker's Tiguan, which I should be able to check later today.
    Thanks Andy. I look forward to your response.
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    04-18-2012 03:38 PM #8
    Hi, I have a small collection of 2.0T maps but they are not identical to the data posted in the screen shots. Would you mind sending PLB (Measuring block) maps to us via email?

    http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...ol_Module_Maps

    [Applications]
    [Controller Channels Map]
    Address: 01
    Function: Meas. Blocks
    Output: Pre-Label File
    [Start]

    Please run one with the key on, engine off and another with the vehicle at idle.
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    04-18-2012 06:39 PM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Dana @ Ross-Tech View Post
    Hi, I have a small collection of 2.0T maps but they are not identical to the data posted in the screen shots. Would you mind sending PLB (Measuring block) maps to us via email?

    http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...ol_Module_Maps

    [Applications]
    [Controller Channels Map]
    Address: 01
    Function: Meas. Blocks
    Output: Pre-Label File
    [Start]

    Please run one with the key on, engine off and another with the vehicle at idle.
    Sure, I'll run them tonight. Thank you for the support.
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    04-19-2012 12:48 PM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by steelcurtain View Post
    Sure, I'll run them tonight. Thank you for the support.
    Email sent.
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    04-20-2012 04:21 PM #11
    We received the maps. I should have something for you by Monday at the latest.
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    04-20-2012 06:22 PM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Dana @ Ross-Tech View Post
    We received the maps. I should have something for you by Monday at the latest.
    Sounds good. Thanks Dana.
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    04-22-2012 11:54 AM #13
    Based on the info for this specific CCTA 2.0T MVB 166 is the last documented MVB group. MVB groups 208 and similar are typically reserved for dual bank engines (i.e.Vr6) Variable Valve Timing (VVT) groups but looking at generalized chain driven 2.0T engines these appear to contain O2 Sensor information.

    208 - O2s heater
    209 - Dynamic O2s
    211 - O2s aging
    214 - O2s diagnosis
    215 - O2s aging
    216 - Catalyst diagnosis

    MVB groups in the 90's are however related to valve timing and 094 will run a self test in Basic Settings at idle. The following is from my stock 2010 CBFA 2.0T DSG Gti at a warm idle:

    ;SW:1K0-907-115-AL HW:1K0-907-115-AK --- Engine
    ;Component:2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0030, Coding:040301081C070160
    ;Sunday,22,April,2012,10:46:09:03064
    ;VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3 Data version: 20120401
    ;VCID: 70E4D09963B8329

    91,0,,
    91,1,,,
    ;720 /min,,
    91,2,,,
    ;5.9 %,,
    91,3,,,
    ;28.0°KW,,
    91,4,,,
    ;27.5°KW,,
    ;
    ;
    93,0,,
    93,1,,,
    ;760 /min,,
    93,2,,,
    ;16.5 %,,
    93,3,,,
    ;-2.06°,,
    93,4,,,
    ; ,,
    ;
    ;
    94,0,,
    94,1,,,
    ;760 /min,,
    94,2,,,
    ;27.5°KW,,
    94,3,,,
    ;System OK,,
    94,4,,,


    .. and while running the 094 basic settings when warm using [On/Off/Next] the self maintained RPM range with brake and gas applied, the engine retarded timing as far as -33 (which was pretty ugly) and extreme as +28 while displaying System OK the whole time.
    Dana Marie

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    04-22-2012 03:11 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Dana @ Ross-Tech View Post
    Based on the info for this specific CCTA 2.0T MVB 166 is the last documented MVB group. MVB groups 208 and similar are typically reserved for dual bank engines (i.e.Vr6) Variable Valve Timing (VVT) groups but looking at generalized chain driven 2.0T engines these appear to contain O2 Sensor information.

    208 - O2s heater
    209 - Dynamic O2s
    211 - O2s aging
    214 - O2s diagnosis
    215 - O2s aging
    216 - Catalyst diagnosis

    MVB groups in the 90's are however related to valve timing and 094 will run a self test in Basic Settings at idle. The following is from my stock 2010 CBFA 2.0T DSG Gti at a warm idle:

    ;SW:1K0-907-115-AL HW:1K0-907-115-AK --- Engine
    ;Component:2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0030, Coding:040301081C070160
    ;Sunday,22,April,2012,10:46:09:03064
    ;VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3 Data version: 20120401
    ;VCID: 70E4D09963B8329

    91,0,,
    91,1,,,
    ;720 /min,,
    91,2,,,
    ;5.9 %,,
    91,3,,,
    ;28.0°KW,,
    91,4,,,
    ;27.5°KW,,
    ;
    ;
    93,0,,
    93,1,,,
    ;760 /min,,
    93,2,,,
    ;16.5 %,,
    93,3,,,
    ;-2.06°,,
    93,4,,,
    ; ,,
    ;
    ;
    94,0,,
    94,1,,,
    ;760 /min,,
    94,2,,,
    ;27.5°KW,,
    94,3,,,
    ;System OK,,
    94,4,,,


    .. and while running the 094 basic settings when warm using [On/Off/Next] the self maintained RPM range with brake and gas applied, the engine retarded timing as far as -33 (which was pretty ugly) and extreme as +28 while displaying System OK the whole time.
    Thank you Dana. This is very helpful.
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