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    Thread: What are the equivalent measuring blocks in EA888 for blocks 208/209 on EA113

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      04-15-2012 08:42 AM #1
      I'm troubleshooting a timing issue and went to logs blocks 208 & 209 for intake and exhaust cam on my MKV TSI and noticed these blocks have been moved. The question is where have they been moved to? I have found a handful of blocks that indicated "Idle Stabilization" just like 208/209 but don't know which blocks are actually 208/209. I'm thinking they have been moved to 211-1 and 211-2 but not sure.

      I have no codes so an auto-scan doesn't apply. Don't use the -8.0* as indication of the correct blocks because I am troubleshooting and actually expecting to see a value other than -8.0*.

      See screenshots below. I apologize for the redundant screenshots.




      Last edited by steelcurtain; 04-15-2012 at 11:00 AM.
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      04-15-2012 09:13 AM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by steelcurtain View Post
      I have no codes so an auto-scan doesn't apply.
      Yes, it does. Please post yours so we can see the other identifying information needed to look into your question.

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      04-15-2012 09:50 AM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by Andy@Ross-Tech.com View Post
      Yes, it does. Please post yours so we can see the other identifying information needed to look into your question.
      Thanks for your help Andy. Here's my auto-scan.

      VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
      Data version: 20120401

      Sunday,15,April,2012,09:49:57:22642

      Chassis Type: 1K0
      Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 65

      VIN: WVWFV71K19W066894 Mileage: 100040km/62161miles

      01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
      02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
      03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
      04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
      08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
      15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
      16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
      17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
      19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
      1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
      25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
      42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
      44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
      52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
      55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
      56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
      65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 01: Engine (CCT) Labels: 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
      Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 AE HW: 1K0 907 115 AA
      Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0030
      Revision: AAH03--- Serial number: VWX7Z0H63NH8H7
      Coding: 0403010A1C070160
      Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
      VCID: 69D2A69E4062C31

      No fault code found.
      Readiness: 0010 0001

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
      Part No SW: 02E 300 051 H HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
      Component: HPA DSG AG6 431 1802
      Revision: 04843012 Serial number: 00000807011549
      Coding: 0000024
      Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
      VCID: 1834D35A2B888A9

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
      Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AE HW: 1K0 907 379 AE
      Component: ESP MK60EC1 H35 0104
      Revision: 00H35001
      Coding: 113B600D49280000881306ED921D0041B100
      Shop #: WSC 01316 785 00200
      VCID: 75EAFAEEDCDA171

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 JM HW: 1K0 820 047 JM
      Component: Climatic PQ35 142 1212
      Revision: 00142032 Serial number: 00000000000000
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 78F4F3DA0BC86A9

      1 Fault Found:
      01314 - Engine Control Module
      004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
      Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E HW: 3C8 937 049 E
      Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2602
      Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000008625032
      Coding: 078D8F014004150047140000001400000019770B5C00010000 0000000000
      Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
      VCID: 336E04F6522E491

      Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
      Component: Wischer 070708 021 0501
      Coding: 00038805
      Shop #: WSC 00000

      1 Fault Found:
      01314 - Engine Control Module
      004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00100100
      Fault Priority: 6
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 58
      Mileage: 99064 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      ON
      Voltage: 11.75 V
      ON
      ON
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
      Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 M HW: 8E0 035 593 M
      Component: SDAR SIRIUS H07 0150
      Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0365224
      Coding: 0000000
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 336E04F6522E491

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
      Component: 6K AIRBAG VW8R 034 8000
      Revision: 05034000 Serial number: 003B6D0BLF3/
      Coding: 0013899
      Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
      VCID: 6CDCDF8A4F90D69

      Part No: 1K0 959 339 G
      Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0007

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BG HW: 1K0 953 549 BG
      Component: J0527 051 0101
      Coding: 0012122
      Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
      VCID: 78F4F3DA0BC86A9

      Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
      Component: E0221 002 0010

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 H HW: 1K6 920 974 H
      Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 2416
      Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H63NH8H7
      Coding: 0005103
      Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
      VCID: 397236DE7042B31

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q HW: 1K0 907 951
      Component: J533 Gateway H07 0062
      Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 100708F1001108
      Coding: ED811F070013020000
      Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
      VCID: 356A3AEE5C5A571

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 1C: Position Sensing Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K6 919 879 HW: 1K6 919 879
      Component: Kompass 001 0003
      Revision: 00001000 Serial number: 1225223T3HJW03
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: FDFA62CEA4EACF1

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
      Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 H HW: 1K6 920 974 H
      Component: IMMO VDD 2416
      Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H63NH8H7
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 397236DE7042B31

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
      Component: Tuer-SG 006 1207
      Coding: 0001077
      Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
      VCID: 387433DA4B48AA9

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
      Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
      Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H08 1901
      Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
      VCID: 356A3AEE5C5A571

      1 Fault Found:
      01314 - Engine Control Module
      004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Mileage: 99050 km
      Temperature: 42.0°C
      Voltage: 11.90 V
      Voltage: 11.70 V


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
      Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
      Component: KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221
      Revision: 00052000 Serial number: 00000000000000
      Coding: 029006885103C83F2D04058FB0080A04889C00
      Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
      VCID: 840C172AC700BE9

      Component: Sounder n.mounted

      Component: NGS n.mounted

      Component: IRUE n.mounted

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
      Component: Tuer-SG 006 1207
      Coding: 0001076
      Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
      VCID: 397236DE7042B31

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
      Part No: 1T0 907 357
      Component: Dynamische LWR 0003
      Coding: 0000003
      Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
      VCID: F4EC47EA97A08E9

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 L HW: 1K0 035 180 L
      Component: Radio PM6 019 0037
      Revision: 00019000 Serial number: VWZ5Z7H2244854
      Coding: 0040401
      Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
      VCID: 2952E69E80E2031

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 65: Tire Pressure Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
      Component: RDK 0450
      Revision: 00052000 Serial number: 00000000000000
      Coding: 0100101
      Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
      VCID: 840C172AC700BE9

      No fault code found.

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      04-15-2012 09:57 AM #4
      BTW - The 01314 - Engine Control Module 004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent event is from getting the ECU reflashed.
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      04-18-2012 08:05 AM #5
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      04-18-2012 08:50 AM #6
      We have some logs from my coworker's Tiguan, which I should be able to check later today.

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      04-18-2012 09:16 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Andy@Ross-Tech.com View Post
      We have some logs from my coworker's Tiguan, which I should be able to check later today.
      Thanks Andy. I look forward to your response.
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      04-18-2012 03:38 PM #8
      Hi, I have a small collection of 2.0T maps but they are not identical to the data posted in the screen shots. Would you mind sending PLB (Measuring block) maps to us via email?

      http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...ol_Module_Maps

      [Applications]
      [Controller Channels Map]
      Address: 01
      Function: Meas. Blocks
      Output: Pre-Label File
      [Start]

      Please run one with the key on, engine off and another with the vehicle at idle.
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      04-18-2012 06:39 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Dana @ Ross-Tech View Post
      Hi, I have a small collection of 2.0T maps but they are not identical to the data posted in the screen shots. Would you mind sending PLB (Measuring block) maps to us via email?

      http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...ol_Module_Maps

      [Applications]
      [Controller Channels Map]
      Address: 01
      Function: Meas. Blocks
      Output: Pre-Label File
      [Start]

      Please run one with the key on, engine off and another with the vehicle at idle.
      Sure, I'll run them tonight. Thank you for the support.
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      04-19-2012 12:48 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by steelcurtain View Post
      Sure, I'll run them tonight. Thank you for the support.
      Email sent.
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      04-20-2012 04:21 PM #11
      We received the maps. I should have something for you by Monday at the latest.
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      04-20-2012 06:22 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Dana @ Ross-Tech View Post
      We received the maps. I should have something for you by Monday at the latest.
      Sounds good. Thanks Dana.
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      04-22-2012 11:54 AM #13
      Based on the info for this specific CCTA 2.0T MVB 166 is the last documented MVB group. MVB groups 208 and similar are typically reserved for dual bank engines (i.e.Vr6) Variable Valve Timing (VVT) groups but looking at generalized chain driven 2.0T engines these appear to contain O2 Sensor information.

      208 - O2s heater
      209 - Dynamic O2s
      211 - O2s aging
      214 - O2s diagnosis
      215 - O2s aging
      216 - Catalyst diagnosis

      MVB groups in the 90's are however related to valve timing and 094 will run a self test in Basic Settings at idle. The following is from my stock 2010 CBFA 2.0T DSG Gti at a warm idle:

      ;SW:1K0-907-115-AL HW:1K0-907-115-AK --- Engine
      ;Component:2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0030, Coding:040301081C070160
      ;Sunday,22,April,2012,10:46:09:03064
      ;VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3 Data version: 20120401
      ;VCID: 70E4D09963B8329

      91,0,,
      91,1,,,
      ;720 /min,,
      91,2,,,
      ;5.9 %,,
      91,3,,,
      ;28.0°KW,,
      91,4,,,
      ;27.5°KW,,
      ;
      ;
      93,0,,
      93,1,,,
      ;760 /min,,
      93,2,,,
      ;16.5 %,,
      93,3,,,
      ;-2.06°,,
      93,4,,,
      ; ,,
      ;
      ;
      94,0,,
      94,1,,,
      ;760 /min,,
      94,2,,,
      ;27.5°KW,,
      94,3,,,
      ;System OK,,
      94,4,,,


      .. and while running the 094 basic settings when warm using [On/Off/Next] the self maintained RPM range with brake and gas applied, the engine retarded timing as far as -33 (which was pretty ugly) and extreme as +28 while displaying System OK the whole time.
      Dana Marie

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      04-22-2012 03:11 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Dana @ Ross-Tech View Post
      Based on the info for this specific CCTA 2.0T MVB 166 is the last documented MVB group. MVB groups 208 and similar are typically reserved for dual bank engines (i.e.Vr6) Variable Valve Timing (VVT) groups but looking at generalized chain driven 2.0T engines these appear to contain O2 Sensor information.

      208 - O2s heater
      209 - Dynamic O2s
      211 - O2s aging
      214 - O2s diagnosis
      215 - O2s aging
      216 - Catalyst diagnosis

      MVB groups in the 90's are however related to valve timing and 094 will run a self test in Basic Settings at idle. The following is from my stock 2010 CBFA 2.0T DSG Gti at a warm idle:

      ;SW:1K0-907-115-AL HW:1K0-907-115-AK --- Engine
      ;Component:2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0030, Coding:040301081C070160
      ;Sunday,22,April,2012,10:46:09:03064
      ;VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3 Data version: 20120401
      ;VCID: 70E4D09963B8329

      91,0,,
      91,1,,,
      ;720 /min,,
      91,2,,,
      ;5.9 %,,
      91,3,,,
      ;28.0°KW,,
      91,4,,,
      ;27.5°KW,,
      ;
      ;
      93,0,,
      93,1,,,
      ;760 /min,,
      93,2,,,
      ;16.5 %,,
      93,3,,,
      ;-2.06°,,
      93,4,,,
      ; ,,
      ;
      ;
      94,0,,
      94,1,,,
      ;760 /min,,
      94,2,,,
      ;27.5°KW,,
      94,3,,,
      ;System OK,,
      94,4,,,


      .. and while running the 094 basic settings when warm using [On/Off/Next] the self maintained RPM range with brake and gas applied, the engine retarded timing as far as -33 (which was pretty ugly) and extreme as +28 while displaying System OK the whole time.
      Thank you Dana. This is very helpful.
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