HELP! - does anybody make a cold air intake or Filter mount for our cars - 91' Cab

[Robeuro03]

The stock airbox didn't come with the car i just got and i need to ensure the MAS is properly mounted. It came with a cone filter on it with no mount.
I have it "rigged" for now but need to set it up correctly.

What are my options? Thanks

[s2kvondeutschland]

Looking in the classifieds or ebay for a stock airbox is your best bet.

[NPoulos24]

I searched for one yesterday and K&N has an affordable universale that will fit our cars

[Robeuro03]

I guess i will have to make one

[briano1234]

The stock airbox didn't come with the car i just got and i need to ensure the MAS is properly mounted. It came with a cone filter on it with no mount.
I have it "rigged" for now but need to set it up correctly.

What are my options? Thanks

Throw it away and get a k&n Filter and a airbox. Ram air it and be a lot happier as you can surmise from the following link, that cone filter isn't a CAI system. It is a time bomb.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?2514928

[Robeuro03]

Thanks for the responses.

[KnuckleUp2]

i made one i took a small part of a cold air intake pipe and a flat piece of metal lined the metal up to the air flow sensor and drilled the bolt holes in the flat metal. then cut a square hole in the center for the air to flow through lining up with the square hole in the air flow sensor. then jb welded the small peice of cold air intake pipe to the flat metal in the center and used 3m tape for a gasket. then bolted it on to the air flow sensor and have been happily rocken the K&N cone filter ever since
( sorry if i didnt explain it to well )

[KnuckleUp2]

lol a home made version of this but you could just buy this one for $30 with a cheap ass filter and just get a better filter

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Intake-M...=viewtut&id=56

[hyperlightboards48]

i made one i took a small part of a cold air intake pipe and a flat piece of metal lined the metal up to the air flow sensor and drilled the bolt holes in the flat metal. then cut a square hole in the center for the air to flow through lining up with the square hole in the air flow sensor. then jb welded the small peice of cold air intake pipe to the flat metal in the center and used 3m tape for a gasket. then bolted it on to the air flow sensor and have been happily rocken the K&N cone filter ever since
( sorry if i didnt explain it to well )

Read the link that Brian just posted and put your stock box back in there

[NPoulos24]

First I would like to say Pics or it didnt happen ! . second I guess since I am new here I will be ignored thats fine you guys know yourr vw stuff and I may not that is why I am here and to get ideas from others . This is the link for the K&N that I posted just before you decided that nobody was helping you with ideas . http://www.knfilters.com/universal/apollo.htm

[KnuckleUp2]

Read the link that Brian just posted and put your stock box back in there

i know the stock box is better but i want to put a heineken mini keg over the cone filter

[KnuckleUp2]

First I would like to say Pics or it didnt happen ! . second I guess since I am new here I will be ignored thats fine you guys know yourr vw stuff and I may not that is why I am here and to get ideas from others . This is the link for the K&N that I posted just before you decided that nobody was helping you with ideas . http://www.knfilters.com/universal/apollo.htm

how is no one helping with ideas i gave him an idea that cost like $5 and everyone else on here gave him their opinoin which was better then my idea its far better to run a stock airbox i just have other plans for my car im gunna use a con filter and use a heineken mini keg for an air box then have flex hose in the nose for colder air to get to but adds no extra performace i just wanna do it

[KnuckleUp2]

im doing this
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1646467

[briano1234]

The problem with the CAI that folks want to put on their car is a time bomb for my following reasons.

1. Allowing the engine to Breath Engine compartment air is bad.
a. Out gassing from the Battery allows Sulfuric Acid vapors to be ingested, long term is detrimental to Aluminum and internals of the engine leading to premature engine failure.
b. When you spring a Radiator leak, you are going to be injecting A/f to the engine.. not a good thing either.
c. Road spray can get in to the filter and then the engine.

2. You are burning hotter air.
a. Warm air doesn't have the density that cold air does and compresses more, this lack of compressibility leads to inefficient combustion.
b. Reduces mileage.

3. Cool outside air causes the car to run cooler and more efficient lowering emissions and more friendly to the environment.

4. All the "Ricers are doing it.".


Now Using a Hiney Can and a cone filter as the air box is ok, as long as you duct to to the grille or colder outside air as you stated..

IMHO.

It's not that you answered his question, we were showing a newbie why it is a bad thing.

[KnuckleUp2]

ya icompletely agree man

[NPoulos24]

I didnt say nobody was helping with ideas . I read what i wrote twice to make sure lol

[NPoulos24]

Your list of reasons against a cold air intake makes me think you never had one before and know nothing about it 1 it isnt a ricer thing they might do it to but it is s muscle thing 2 it is wjat its called COLD air INTAKE not engine air use a good Cai is isolated from the engine bay to bring air from outside the car directly into the engine with little resistance . Just throwing a filter on your throttle body is a horrible idea but it also isnt a Cai its just a filter.

[s2kvondeutschland]

The stock freaking airbox is a cold-air intake.

[briano1234]

The stock freaking airbox is a cold-air intake.

X37

All you need to do is to increase the diameter of the intake side and direct it to the grille.

how to do it?

[16v Cabby]

You could do something like this
Its an airbox off a 240 turbo'd volvo. Looks pretty different in the bay, all you have to do is find the lower part and it will bolt up where the old box with the filter went.

[briano1234]

You could do something like this
Its an airbox off a 240 turbo'd volvo. Looks pretty different in the bay, all you have to do is find the lower part and it will bolt up where the old box with the filter went.

That isn't a CAI not unless you partition the filter off from the engine compartment and direct cold outside air in to it. Your air at that point is still going to be "hotter" than you think....

[Beetle.freak]

The problem with the CAI that folks want to put on their car is a time bomb for my following reasons.

1. Allowing the engine to Breath Engine compartment air is bad.
a. Out gassing from the Battery allows Sulfuric Acid vapors to be ingested, long term is detrimental to Aluminum and internals of the engine leading to premature engine failure.
b. When you spring a Radiator leak, you are going to be injecting A/f to the engine.. not a good thing either.
c. Road spray can get in to the filter and then the engine.

2. You are burning hotter air.
a. Warm air doesn't have the density that cold air does and compresses more, this lack of compressibility leads to inefficient combustion.
b. Reduces mileage.

3. Cool outside air causes the car to run cooler and more efficient lowering emissions and more friendly to the environment.

4. All the "Ricers are doing it.".


Now Using a Hiney Can and a cone filter as the air box is ok, as long as you duct to to the grille or colder outside air as you stated..

IMHO.

It's not that you answered his question, we were showing a newbie why it is a bad thing.

You can't argue with logic !! NPoulos24, you don't have the white Cabriolet that I see running around Hancock Md. do ya ? You're like 62.6 miles northeast from me.

[kamzcab86]

Your list of reasons against a cold air intake makes me think you never had one before and know nothing about it.

1) It isn't a ricer thing. They might do it too, but it is a muscle thing.
2) It is what is called COLD air INTAKE, not engine air. Use a good CAI and it is isolated from the engine bay to bring air from outside the car directly into the engine with little resistance. Just throwing a filter on your throttle body is a horrible idea, but it also isn't a CAI it's just a filter.

A) Muscle cars and VW Cabriolets are two very different cars. A cold-air intake on a muscle car will be vastly different than what a Cabriolet will use. The one pictured above, with the 16V, is not a cold-air intake, although that is what the manufacturer calls it because it can be installed in many different vehicles.

B) Your point #2 is exactly what Brian and everyone else are saying pertaining specifically to Cabriolets.

C) Punctuate next time.

The stock freaking airbox is a cold-air intake.

You could do something like this
[16V pic]
Its an airbox off a 240 turbo'd volvo. Looks pretty different in the bay, all you have to do is find the lower part and it will bolt up where the old box with the filter went.

A Volvo airbox is fine for CIS cars; the car in question is Digifant. With all the Cabriolets being sent to junkyards these days, the best/easiest solution for the OP is to get the OEM airbox and follow the directions here: http://reflectionsandshadows.com/digi-cold/ .