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    Thread: Official 2012 Formula 1 Gulf Air Bahrain GP Thread

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      04-17-2012 10:01 AM #1
      Whelp looks like the race is going forward.

      Bit more of a technical track than China but I think we're going to see the same 3 teams at the front: Mercedes, Mclaren, Red Bull (kind of).

      Alonso and Massa seem to do well here, but the Ferrari is a dog, so I'm not expecting much.

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      04-17-2012 10:57 AM #2
      protests are still going...



      Either way... should be another fun race but won't match China's action most likely due to the track layout. But the heat should be pretty high for the tires... I doubt anyone would attempt a two stop strategy here (at least anyone at the front).

      Cool little facts I came across today on Twitter:

      - Vettel, Lewis, Jensen, Alonso and Webber have won the last 44 races before Rosberg broke that spell.
      - Last six races have won by six different drivers (going back to 2011 obviously). Most consecutive races won by different drivers is 9 (1961-1962 and 1982).

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      EDIT: Ferrari's quick release jack:

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      04-17-2012 02:30 PM #3
      Good article by Brundle on the season so far: http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/...heat-into-2012

      Helmut Marko (Red Bull head dude) on their 2012 car: http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsp...ory/76110.html

      Interesting quote from him:

      As for why Webber feels more comfortable in the updated car, Marko added: "Mark is less sensitive to the [car's] behaviour. He just needs four wheels, but it's different for Vettel."

    4. 04-17-2012 04:41 PM #4
      That jack guy is levitating...

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      04-17-2012 05:27 PM #5
      I hope nothing bad happens over there to any of the teams and/or drivers.

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      04-17-2012 08:59 PM #6
      I expect Mercedes and McLaren to be up front. I know it's a different track but it's only a week later, can't expect any surprise right?

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      04-17-2012 10:29 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by 01jetta01 View Post
      I expect Mercedes and McLaren to be up front. I know it's a different track but it's only a week later, can't expect any surprise right?
      I think Merc is gonna have a harder time with their tires lasting in the race. I would expect McLaren and RB to have a better race pace and perhaps a better showing from Sauber and Lotus.
      This track will further show Ferrari's issues. They are forced to run a lot of wing again due to their lack of downforce, which will expose them again on the straights.
      Form is temporary; Class is permanent

    8. 04-18-2012 09:31 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      I think Merc is gonna have a harder time with their tires lasting in the race. I would expect McLaren and RB to have a better race pace and perhaps a better showing from Sauber and Lotus.
      This track will further show Ferrari's issues. They are forced to run a lot of wing again due to their lack of downforce, which will expose them again on the straights.
      That "platypus" man... Works wonders for the egg laying mammal in water... Hell lot less downforce as a car design...

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      04-18-2012 09:38 AM #9
      This year's layout will revert back to the original circuit without that funky detour loop that they added a few years back.
      Form is temporary; Class is permanent

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      04-18-2012 09:41 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      This year's layout will revert back to the original circuit without that funky detour loop that they added a few years back.


      I was looking that up online. That detour didn't add anything to the race. Honestly I like the setup of this track.

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      04-18-2012 09:54 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Blue2.0 View Post
      I hope nothing bad happens over there to any of the teams and/or drivers.
      Ditto, or anyone else over there.

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      04-18-2012 09:59 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Sump View Post


      I was looking that up online. That detour didn't add anything to the race. Honestly I like the setup of this track.
      I've raced both layouts on PS3 and like the original better. It just had better flow to it. The modified detour was very tight and bumpy, virtually no place to overtake and basically a bottle-neck.

      For some reason it was added due to the field of cars increasing (HRT, Virgin and Lotus(Caterham)).
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      04-18-2012 10:07 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      I've raced both layouts on PS3 and like the original better. It just had better flow to it. The modified detour was very tight and bumpy, virtually no place to overtake and basically a bottle-neck.

      For some reason it was added due to the field of cars increasing (HRT, Virgin and Lotus(Caterham)).
      That's odd because with more new, slower cars that section would only make it harder for the faster teams to stay out of traffic.

      Driven both in games as well, 'old' layout has a great flow. Love the final sector.

    14. 04-18-2012 11:35 AM #14
      Are there any side by side photos of the different track layouts. I can onlyt find the one for this year.

    15. 04-18-2012 01:36 PM #15
      I hope nothing bad happens over there to any of the teams and/or drivers and god bless all of them.
      Last edited by Jimmijackson; 04-20-2012 at 05:49 PM.

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      04-18-2012 01:53 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by The Ninja View Post
      Are there any side by side photos of the different track layouts. I can onlyt find the one for this year.
      Current & 'original' layout:



      2010 layout:



      In the 2nd image you can see where T4 & 13 connect in light gray. That's the original/current route.

      Also what is cool about this track is you can see nearly 100% of the action from the main grandstand. Kind of similar to Brazil in that respect.
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      04-18-2012 09:04 PM #17
      I really don't get the protesters being against the race; look at all of the exposure they're getting for their cause as a result. They should take the race and use it for positive publicity to support their efforts, not condemn it as evil and try to ruin it.

      I feel like McLaren are going to be on top here, with RBR picking up the pieces and Mercedes reverting back to their tire-munching ways with the heat and abrasive (dusty) surface.

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      04-18-2012 10:28 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by nickthaskater View Post
      I really don't get the protesters being against the race; look at all of the exposure they're getting for their cause as a result. They should take the race and use it for positive publicity to support their efforts, not condemn it as evil and try to ruin it.
      Oh my... think you need to read up a bit more on the subject.

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      04-18-2012 10:41 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Vento View Post
      Oh my... think you need to read up a bit more on the subject.
      I know very well what's going on there, thanks.

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      04-18-2012 10:50 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by nickthaskater View Post
      I know very well what's going on there, thanks.
      Wow... just wow... I suppose you do...

      Back to Formula 1 racing now.....

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      04-19-2012 12:37 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Vento View Post
      Wow... just wow... I suppose you do...

      Back to Formula 1 racing now.....
      All is well in Bahrain... Good thing Bernie is looking out for the safety of F1 personnel.

      Quote Originally Posted by Chicago Tribune
      Bahrain riot police fired tear gas and stun grenades at anti-government activists on Thursday and members of the Force India race team were caught up in a petrol bomb incident as unrest simmered ahead of this weekend's Formula One Grand Prix.
      http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,7578067.story

      It doesn't sound like the fire bomb was all that close to the Force India team, but...

      Corporations are avoiding the place too. Very few if any VIP receptions going on it seems.

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...83I0XP20120419
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      04-19-2012 03:37 PM #22
      Sounds like this race will not only have a DRS zone but a burning tire and fire bomb zone that the drivers will have to avoid. Sounds very reminiscent of Super Mario Kart... The passing should simply be amazing!

      Who was the genius that decided to go forward with this race...oh yeah, a cash hungry decrepit dinosaur that needs to get the hell out of F1! It boggles my mind that this guy actually listened to reports of bombing and protests and thought that a lavish, highly exclusive party for the country's dictator and his closest friends would be well received.

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      04-19-2012 05:38 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by 24vEngineer View Post
      Sounds like this race will not only have a DRS zone but a burning tire and fire bomb zone that the drivers will have to avoid. Sounds very reminiscent of Super Mario Kart... The passing should simply be amazing!

      Who was the genius that decided to go forward with this race...oh yeah, a cash hungry decrepit dinosaur that needs to get the hell out of F1! It boggles my mind that this guy actually listened to reports of bombing and protests and thought that a lavish, highly exclusive party for the country's dictator and his closest friends would be well received.
      I dont mind if their is a war in the race as long as the enemy dont hit Schumacher!

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      04-19-2012 05:59 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by GTIVRSEX2 View Post
      I dont mind if their is a war in the race as long as the enemy dont hit Schumacher!
      Yea, seeing him finish more than 1 race would be nice, lol. Hopefully it's his turn for a victory this weekend~

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      04-19-2012 08:26 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by 24vEngineer View Post
      Sounds like this race will not only have a DRS zone but a burning tire and fire bomb zone that the drivers will have to avoid. Sounds very reminiscent of Super Mario Kart... The passing should simply be amazing!

      Who was the genius that decided to go forward with this race...oh yeah, a cash hungry decrepit dinosaur that needs to get the hell out of F1! It boggles my mind that this guy actually listened to reports of bombing and protests and thought that a lavish, highly exclusive party for the country's dictator and his closest friends would be well received.

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      04-20-2012 12:28 AM #26
      So glad this race is at 8AM EST and not 3AM EST!

      Also, will he be in it?


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      04-20-2012 08:20 AM #27
      Well, things are off and running.

      Hamilton is fastest after P1, w/ Vettel second <.4 behind. Alonso is almost 2 seconds off the pace!!!
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      04-20-2012 09:16 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Mk1Racer View Post
      Well, things are off and running.

      Hamilton is fastest after P1, w/ Vettel second <.4 behind. Alonso is almost 2 seconds off the pace!!!
      If Ferrari remain that far off the pace (or even 1+ secs) I wonder what "drastic" measures Luca D M. will come out saying. I'm hoping Mercedes can keep up the pace in the heat and prove they have figured out their car.

    29. 04-20-2012 09:36 AM #29
      What a fine looking racing machine...


    30. 04-20-2012 11:14 AM #30
      Nico Rosberg tops session 2 ahead of Webber and Vettel.

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      04-20-2012 11:20 AM #31
      This pic needs to be seen again.

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      What a fine looking racing machine...


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      04-20-2012 11:32 AM #32
      Practice means nothing.

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      04-20-2012 11:59 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Practice means nothing.
      What? Get the hell out of here! You mean to tell me this doesn't indicate the pecking order in the race?
      Form is temporary; Class is permanent

    34. 04-20-2012 01:03 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      What? Get the hell out of here! You mean to tell me this doesn't indicate the pecking order in the race?

      The correct reply is ban the Hawc...

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      04-20-2012 01:50 PM #35
      Although, Saturday practice is usually a decent indicator of qualifying performance.
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