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    04-23-2012 11:31 AM #106
    I think this season, at least so far, is shaping up to be a lot more exciting than last year. I hope that Vettel just had a good day and isn't back to last year's form. Nothing personal, it just wasn't very exciting watching him win from pole every Sunday. There are lots of fast cars on the track and it makes it fun to watch since you never know what might happen. It seems that certain cars are more suited for some tracks than others. The Renaults this week, the Mercedes last week... Anyway, I would have liked to see Kimi get past Vettel, but the Lotus just couldn't keep up through the turns. I was happy to see Grosjean make the podium. That guy seems like he's always having a good time and has a smile on his face no matter what's going on. McLaren needs to get their act together and fast. Pit stops have been costing them valuable positions and they arguably have the fastest all-around car out there.

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    04-23-2012 12:02 PM #107
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    I call this "Spot Mr. Consistency".


    Hilarious! Is he pouting or did he just pass gas?

  3. 04-23-2012 12:08 PM #108
    Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
    The stewards report suggest that no part of Alonso's car, not Hamilton's was next to him when he squeezed to the line, so legit move.

    Actually Lewis was lucky since he continued by pulling off a pass off track. And that is illegal.
    I think since it was a straightaway versus cutting across a curve they didn't see it as illegal. Nico still had a chance to get that position back before the next set of corners.


    I like how close this season is so far. You can easily see Lotus picking up a win soon, and some of the typically mid pack teams are posing legitimate threats ( Force India and Sauber come to mind...)

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    04-23-2012 12:40 PM #109
    Quote Originally Posted by gizmopop View Post
    I think since it was a straightaway versus cutting across a curve they didn't see it as illegal. Nico still had a chance to get that position back before the next set of corners.
    Exceeding track limits is illegal on a straight or through a corner. The reason Nico moved over to the edge of the track was to force Lewis to attempt the pass on the other side, which is a pointless move if Lewis can just use the runoff area to pass him.
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    04-23-2012 12:49 PM #110
    Unfortunately I missed the race and forgot to set my PVR to record it!

    How long were Lewis' pit stops anyway? Seems like he didn't have much pace to fight with anyway?

  6. 04-23-2012 01:08 PM #111
    Quote Originally Posted by TBomb View Post
    I think this season, at least so far, is shaping up to be a lot more exciting than last year. I hope that Vettel just had a good day and isn't back to last year's form.
    Think the next track is more suited for RBR and Lotus.

  7. 04-23-2012 01:15 PM #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Vento View Post
    Unfortunately I missed the race and forgot to set my PVR to record it!

    How long were Lewis' pit stops anyway? Seems like he didn't have much pace to fight with anyway?
    I think this is the first one.




    Post race BBC interview. I see nothing wrong with his response - seems standard issue response. McL needs to update that wheel nut system (nothing is full proof as seen in MS' last race, but it is still an improvement over what they have now) and maybe throw in that Ferrari jack system while at it.


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    04-23-2012 02:55 PM #113
    Quote Originally Posted by rrr rr View Post
    Exceeding track limits is illegal on a straight or through a corner. The reason Nico moved over to the edge of the track was to force Lewis to attempt the pass on the other side, which is a pointless move if Lewis can just use the runoff area to pass him.
    Schumacher taught Nico those moves. Remember when he almost pushed Rubens into the wall? I think MS told Nico just not to be so bold.

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    04-23-2012 04:26 PM #114
    Quote Originally Posted by nickthaskater View Post

    Hamilton gaining a position off track is more deserving of a penalty than what Rosberg did, though even then I'd hope there aren't any to anyone in either incident since it was downright exciting to watch.
    Unless you are cutting a corner, I don't think it's illegal to pass a car off the track (Villeneuve-Hill in Hungary 1997 springs to mind).

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    04-23-2012 04:26 PM #115
    Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
    The stewards report suggest that no part of Alonso's car, not Hamilton's was next to him when he squeezed to the line, so legit move.

    Actually Lewis was lucky since he continued by pulling off a pass off track. And that is illegal.
    If that was actually the case, it's got to make you wonder why they both followed him to that side of the track. If a car I'm chasing makes a swerve off line, I'm probably going the other way, rather than follow him.
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    04-23-2012 04:32 PM #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Mk1Racer View Post
    If that was actually the case, it's got to make you wonder why they both followed him to that side of the track. If a car I'm chasing makes a swerve off line, I'm probably going the other way, rather than follow him.
    Because it use to be when someone swerved to the other side of the track to block you, they would at least leavejust enough room for your car. I think Hamilton and Alonso were thinking that way.

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    04-23-2012 04:41 PM #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Mk1Racer View Post
    If that was actually the case, it's got to make you wonder why they both followed him to that side of the track. If a car I'm chasing makes a swerve off line, I'm probably going the other way, rather than follow him.
    Well, easy for us to say, but those guys had some serious tow from Rosberg and are probably pushing 180MPH (if not more) and make a juke at the last minute to try and pass. Not sure there is a way to suddenly change direction. Once you make that move, you're pretty much committed.
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    04-23-2012 04:44 PM #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Imola Yellow GTi View Post
    Think the next track is more suited for RBR and Lotus.
    I had read that before the race as well. So all those that are suggesting that RB have finally found their way to back to the top is like suggesting Ferrari have suddenly found pace after their win in Malaysia. Better cool your jets.....
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  14. 04-23-2012 05:30 PM #119
    Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
    I had read that before the race as well. So all those that are suggesting that RB have finally found their way to back to the top is like suggesting Ferrari have suddenly found pace after their win in Malaysia. Better cool your jets.....
    My opinion is based off of RBR's ability to accelerate faster than McL. Isn't the next track more about acceleration rather than top speed? However, I have a feeling our dark horse Lotus has a way of making things interesting.
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    04-23-2012 05:48 PM #120
    Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
    I had read that before the race as well. So all those that are suggesting that RB have finally found their way to back to the top is like suggesting Ferrari have suddenly found pace after their win in Malaysia. Better cool your jets.....
    Oh no no no. Might as well settle our bet now. I'll PM you my paypal. Vettel WDC!

    Haven't seen the race yet, but going to watch it tonight. Looks like it was pretty interesting.
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    04-23-2012 07:01 PM #121
    (another) Excellent race! Glad to see the rest of the field being so much closer to the front. Just a little bit more from Force India and Williams would really see some interesting grids.

    I hope we don't see the deeper pocketed teams making too big of a jump in lap times after the swing back to Europe.
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    04-23-2012 08:46 PM #122
    Quote Originally Posted by GPHawaii808 View Post
    (another) Excellent race! Glad to see the rest of the field being so much closer to the front. Just a little bit more from Force India and Williams would really see some interesting grids.

    I hope we don't see the deeper pocketed teams making too big of a jump in lap times after the swing back to Europe.
    I can almost guarantee you will. Ferrari have an entirely new car sitting in the shop, and you know darn well that McLaren and RBR are itching to get back to home turf to tack on new bits and pieces. I would not be surprised to see teams like Force India and Lotus fall back from the big 3 once the Euro season kicks off.

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    04-23-2012 09:47 PM #123
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  19. 04-23-2012 10:16 PM #124
    So boys (and girls) what you say of this.

    http://planetf1.com/news/3213/769469...rg-Exoneration

  20. 04-23-2012 10:28 PM #125
    Nice of kimi to say hello to romain on the way by.

  21. 04-23-2012 10:36 PM #126
    Took me a minute to see that.

    And apparantly Romain was never told to let Kimi by, so that was classy on Romains part to let him by on his own. If Lotus can take 1st in the next race, that would take this season to the next level of exciting.

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    04-23-2012 11:39 PM #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Imola Yellow GTi View Post
    So boys (and girls) what you say of this.

    http://planetf1.com/news/3213/769469...rg-Exoneration
    Alonso is being a cry baby. What else is new ?
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    04-23-2012 11:40 PM #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Sump View Post
    Oh no no no. Might as well settle our bet now. I'll PM you my paypal. Vettel WDC!

    Haven't seen the race yet, but going to watch it tonight. Looks like it was pretty interesting.
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    04-23-2012 11:46 PM #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Imola Yellow GTi View Post
    So boys (and girls) what you say of this.

    http://planetf1.com/news/3213/769469...rg-Exoneration
    Quote Originally Posted by vdubjb View Post
    #wtf #lmfao "Alonso wrote on Twitter: "I think you are going to have fun in future races! You can defend position as you want and you can overtake outside the track! Enjoy! ))"
    Already posted earlier in the thread.

    You know if Hamilton blocked like this he would have had a drive through. If he did it twice in a race he would have been black flagged.

    Let's see what happens when Alonso try's it.

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    04-24-2012 12:41 AM #130
    Quote Originally Posted by 24vEngineer View Post
    Already posted earlier in the thread.

    You know if Hamilton blocked like this he would have had a drive through. If he did it twice in a race he would have been black flagged.

    Let's see what happens when Alonso try's it.
    Am I the only one who feels like Rosberg's one win has gone straight to his head? He seemed a little smug in Bahrain...but maybe that's just me.

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    04-24-2012 12:45 AM #131
    Quote Originally Posted by TBomb View Post
    Am I the only one who feels like Rosberg's one win has gone straight to his head? He seemed a little smug in Bahrain...but maybe that's just me.
    Seemed that way to me too.

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    04-24-2012 01:15 AM #132
    Quote Originally Posted by TBomb View Post
    Am I the only one who feels like Rosberg's one win has gone straight to his head? He seemed a little smug in Bahrain...but maybe that's just me.
    Not just you though I don't blame him.
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  28. 04-24-2012 10:19 AM #133
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    Not just you though I don't blame him.
    True... But have we seen what winning your first has done to Where's Webbo?

  29. 04-24-2012 12:53 PM #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Hajduk View Post
    Because it use to be when someone swerved to the other side of the track to block you, they would at least leave just enough room for your car. I think Hamilton and Alonso were thinking that way.
    Yep. Nico wasn't trying to force them to pass on the other side, he wanted them to back off, Alonso did, Hamilton didn't. In both occasions Rosberg put his right tires off the course, he drove them right off the track.

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    04-24-2012 12:57 PM #135
    Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
    Gonna be a long season for ya, buddy! I have a feeling that you're sweating more than i am!!
    Lol yeah. Betting always makes sports more exciting. Just wish I wasn't so brash to put all my eggs in 1 basket!
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    04-24-2012 03:18 PM #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Kidstar View Post
    True... But have we seen what winning your first has done to Where's Webbo?
    Where's Webbo ran into Vettel and caused him to DNF Turkey in 2010 or did you forget?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24vEngineer View Post
    Where's Webbo ran into Vettel and caused him to DNF Turkey in 2010 or did you forget?
    You mean where Vettel instead of going straight, whirred to the right and hit Webber ? Yeah, I remember that one.
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    04-25-2012 09:22 AM #138
    Quote Originally Posted by J-Tim View Post
    You mean where Vettel instead of going straight, whirred to the right and hit Webber ? Yeah, I remember that one.
    Webber, that idiot gherkin! (see Seb's quote below!)
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  34. 04-25-2012 09:40 AM #139
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    Alonso is being a cry baby. What else is new ?
    this. i have no idea how people like him

    and if anyone wants to call the car in front in the DRS zone a "sitting duck" they need to go back and watch kimi try to pass vettel in this race. 11kph faster or something and still couldn't get past him. surely not an easy pass at all.

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    04-25-2012 10:15 AM #140
    Quote Originally Posted by robhurlburt View Post
    and if anyone wants to call the car in front in the DRS zone a "sitting duck" they need to go back and watch kimi try to pass vettel in this race. 11kph faster or something and still couldn't get past him. surely not an easy pass at all.
    but of course now that "sitting duck" theory has been thrown out of the window by their favorite driver, they are not going to refute it. except for may be "where did I say this?" or "show me where I stated exactly that?".

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