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    Thread: a bunch of questions about a vfr and alignment

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      04-17-2012 03:07 PM #1
      So in the garage, I have a ~00 VFR800 that was rear-ended (not mine). It rides very unstable in the turns (drops in and shimmies as it corners). I see so far a bent wheel, and the chain is misaligned on the sprocket (always to one side, not down the middle). All signs point to an alignment issue, though only the front can really be adjusted.
      What ideas does anyone have for rectifying the situation?
      Since there's no adjustment for rear wheel alignment, nor sprocket alignment, what can I do other than replace the whole rear suspension?
      The front seems to be together properly.
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      04-17-2012 04:51 PM #2
      The axle isn't bent or the swing arm slightly tweaked?
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      04-17-2012 11:25 PM #3
      '02 should be a Sixth gen, right?
      You can loosen the big torx nut at the end of the swing arm, then use the 'hook' tool (the one to adjust the rear shock preload) and pivot the axle/rear sprocket around the fulcrum. It should loosen up the chain, maybe just needs to be snugged up again?
      I'd loosen that and where the swing arm connects to the chassis, see if something is tweaked?

      I'm in KoP if you want to see mine. I don't have any good straight-on pics of the rear, i can go take one if you want.


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      Took a pic cause I was out in the garage anyway:
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      04-18-2012 11:01 AM #4
      we pulled the wheel off yesterday. It looks like the dogbone or shock or the triangle things are jacked up (more space on one side than the other and rubbing). Will be ordering those first, and then we'll see what's what.

      It doesn't look like the chain tension adjustment actually changes the angle of anything, just the distance from the front sprocket? I'll have to look again
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      04-18-2012 11:48 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by mad8vskillz View Post
      It doesn't look like the chain tension adjustment actually changes the angle of anything, just the distance from the front sprocket? I'll have to look again
      Nah it won't but worth a shot it something is tweaked out of square
      If I get bored later I'll take my rear tire off and take some pics of how the dogbone/triangle should look

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      04-18-2012 12:07 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by ambit View Post
      Nah it won't but worth a shot it something is tweaked out of square
      If I get bored later I'll take my rear tire off and take some pics of how the dogbone/triangle should look
      that would be great!
      right now if you look at the dogbone/triangles from straight back, there is 0 space between the dogbone and the left triangle (and you can see that they're rubbing on each other) and roughly .5mm between the dogbone and right triangle. Looks "off" to me.
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      04-18-2012 03:44 PM #7




      My triangle is flipped to lower the bike, ignore that.

      Quote Originally Posted by mad8vskillz View Post
      that would be great!
      right now if you look at the dogbone/triangles from straight back, there is 0 space between the dogbone and the left triangle (and you can see that they're rubbing on each other) and roughly .5mm between the dogbone and right triangle. Looks "off" to me.
      Looks the same on mine, bushing has probably died

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      04-18-2012 04:03 PM #8
      hmm, that's really odd, you have the same spacing on the right thing as i do



      maybe that isn't my issue (we ordered the dogbone and triangles anyway just in case)

      you make a good point with replacing bushings, guess we should order those as well.
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      04-18-2012 05:15 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by ambit View Post




      My triangle is flipped to lower the bike, ignore that.


      Looks the same on mine, bushing has probably died
      Hey, it's my bike that's being discussed, might as well chime in. The spacing on the triangle looks exactly the same as my bike. Weird. Which part in the catalog is the bushing? Or are we talking about the bearing (part #729434). Thanks for your help in this, the handling issues have been a real head scratcher.

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      04-18-2012 05:33 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by romano258 View Post
      Hey, it's my bike that's being discussed, might as well chime in. The spacing on the triangle looks exactly the same as my bike. Weird. Which part in the catalog is the bushing? Or are we talking about the bearing (part #729434). Thanks for your help in this, the handling issues have been a real head scratcher.
      helps to leave a link
      http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmot...1373#sch101713

      i'm thinking it's 16 and 15 (729411 , 730426 )
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      04-23-2012 02:23 PM #11
      took the wheel to a wheel repair place $115 to get it straightened
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    12. 04-23-2012 10:36 PM #12
      That dog bone "floats" between the two plates. Is the wheel dinged or bent?

      How hard was the bike rear ended?

      If the chain has sticky links and it is too tight it can cause wallowing when leaned over.

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      04-23-2012 10:48 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
      That dog bone "floats" between the two plates. Is the wheel dinged or bent?

      How hard was the bike rear ended?

      If the chain has sticky links and it is too tight it can cause wallowing when leaned over.
      the back wheel was bent. Took it to wheel shop.

      something to look into with the chain, though it didn't seem tight
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